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[blackraven1425]

In response to post #8216024. #8216093, #8216114, #8216119, #8216246, #8216296, #8216369, #8216882, #8216892, #8216904, #8217309, #8218042, #8218488, #8218658, #8218730, #8218761, #8218790, #8218835, #8218940, #8219140, #8219382, #8219689 are all replies on the same post.

Yeah, my response was to Loshirai14. I didn't even see the other replies before writing that.

I don't think depth of field adjustments are something games should use unless they're done with eye tracking, though. There's too much variability between where they player is looking and where the cursor is. When they're not aligned, the depth effect breaks both realism and immersion, since it's a trigger for you to go back and move the camera to a spot where you can see what you're trying to look at. They're great for screenshots/machinima (both of which are based on the premise that there's a camera), but it can go as far as being moderately disorienting during active gameplay (based on being in that character's shoes) when the effect is based on cursor position.

As for bloom, I was referring to games more generally, since I actually didn't look into what the mod community was doing on the ENB front until this article, and had a whole ton of trouble setting it up (just got it working last night), so I have no idea what kinds of settings they're all using. The real life equivalent of bloom is really subtle except in rare situations, and that's not the way you usually see it in most games. It's usually a highly pronounced effect to add to the feel of an unrealistic world, not a mild realistic one.

[nurmi90]

I wonder, would it be possible to get depth of field only in third person?

[Gopher]

In response to post #8221218.

I am working on it.

[lordromel]

@gopher
fainally you play with ENB
first just know ENB will make GPU work hard very hard and not work with V-RAM.
you say on video in whiterun you have a 15 fps on a same spot i have a 28-30 fps with all ENB and my graphic is 3GB.
also i recomend that you try a K-ENB and for CoT can try project ENB.
the other think you have to use with ENB to show every think so much better is a texture mod.
so you have to use ((Texture Pack Combinerby Cestral))
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/20801
also would be a great to make a video for that tool
so mostly you need a T.P.C first install then ENB then try too ini tweak
T.P.C mods make a lot of chang with ENB it show every think so much better and sharp and deep colore.

[Zinthros]

Hey Gopher, just a few words of advice with ENB.

You should download all of the "parallax" texture packs you can find via the search feature. ENB makes parallaxmapping actually work (Beth broke it after Oblivion and never fixed it because of consoles) which is just a world apart from flat textures.

[KillerSkark1978]

Number 1 Tip for ENB Mod users.

Download and BACKUP A clean install of Skyrim so if you F it up you can simply delete installation files and replace with your clean backup of Skyrim to start from scratch if needs be, could save yo uhours of downloading assuming your using Steam.

Also Always remember to delete your INI file when resetting, and make sure you Turn Cloud Backup from Steam off on the game, this is very important because if you end up with a screwed INI file Steam will back up and restore that file if you have the cloud on, if you want a clean INI file this has to be off, this IMO is the number 1 cause of people who still have crash problems with the game even after a clean install, is that there INI file is corrupt and backed up by steam even after a fresh install.

[Shredy777]

Looking forward to the next one!

[whismerhill]

a couple of random thoughts :
-the ice & water being blue seems really weird to me
-the riverwood waterwheel seems too dark for bright sun conditions like this

that's my own feeling of it ^^

[joltmajor]

In response to post #8216024. #8216093, #8216114, #8216119, #8216246, #8216296, #8216369, #8216882, #8216892, #8216904, #8217309, #8218042, #8218488, #8218658, #8218730, #8218761, #8218790, #8218835, #8218940, #8219140, #8219382, #8219689, #8221214 are all replies on the same post.

I feel like an important fact is that since we are looking at a 2-D image (unless you have a 3-D capable monitor or are using the Occulus RIft or something to play skyrim) What you are essentially looking at on the screen is much closer to what you get from looking through a camera, than "realism". Since a camera maps 3D->2D

[ewi65]

just a short contribution: skyrim looks without ENB just s***.