Skyrim crashes randomly, tried all recommended fixes.

[zoe23323]

Reuploading this because I need to add a lot of info, and it seems my topic isn't getting much notice. Alright, I know you've all heard this before. Some poor gamer whining about how their game crashes without any prompts, just quits to desktop, and they're too lazy to search the internet to find fixes for their common problem. Here's the thing. I'm not one of those lazy gamers. I've searched for hours, did every fix I came across, and still my game crashes. Doesn't even leave a note. Cheap bastard.

Before you ask, yes,, I've run BOSS, TES5Edit, FNIS, deleted all of my saved games and started a new one, and verified the game cache from the Steam properties. I've uninstalled all of my mods and run it cleanly, but it still crashed when I tried to enter Alvor and Sigrid's house. It usually crashes about every two-to-five minutes, or, if I start a new game, on my way to Riverwood. No exceptions. Every time I start a new game, it will crash on my way to Riverwood. It's always after the Standing Stones, but before I can see the gate to the village. From then on, it will crash about every two-to-five minutes I'd really rather not uninstall Skyrim and reinstall all of my mods, but if that's the only way anyone says I can fix this, I will. I haven't messed with the ini file at all, in case you're wondering
Also, to answer the question that must have been bugging you for the past three minutes of reading this, I do mod. A lot. I have about 100 mods installed at the moment, and most of them are cosmetic. I'm a vain b*tch, okay? I need this sort of stuff. If needs arise, I will post my load order, but both BOSS and TES5Edit haven't found any problems in my load order. I've followed all of Gopher's tutorials, so I'm almost positive I've installed everything correctly. That man is a life saver.
I know someone is going to ask for specs, so this is what I have:
6GB of RAM installed
Windows Vista (ewww)
32Bit
Graphics card is an ATI Radon HD 5670
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[Miguelr23]

at a quick look it can be 3 reasons: vram getting maxed out, ram maxed out(you may have 6 gb of ram but you will never use more than 3gb)and running too many script mods...

 

but first i would start by cleaning your master files(update, dawnguard, hearthfire and dragonborn)gopher as a video for that :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ

 

next download http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6491//? and check how much ram and vram you are using

 

if your vram and ram are ok then it may be running to many scripts and then i would start by disabling a couple of script intensive modes(frostfall, enhanced blood, footprints, wet and cold etc)remember to check the mod pages to see if you need to do anything else other than just disabling the esp

[zoe23323]

at a quick look it can be 3 reasons: vram getting maxed out, ram maxed out(you may have 6 gb of ram but you will never use more than 3gb)and running too many script mods...

 

but first i would start by cleaning your master files(update, dawnguard, hearthfire and dragonborn)gopher as a video for that :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ

 

next download http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6491//? and check how much ram and vram you are using

 

if your vram and ram are ok then it may be running to many scripts and then i would start by disabling a couple of script intensive modes(frostfall, enhanced blood, footprints, wet and cold etc)remember to check the mod pages to see if you need to do anything else other than just disabling the esp

I cleaned all of my master files like you said, and I also used the performance monitor. I'm not sure what it means, but my VRAM never moved from 0 MB and my RAM got up to a maximum of 2,794 MB. Again, not really good with computers, so I have no idea if that's too much. In any case, this is the first time I've been able to actually get to Riverwood and not crash. Managed to get all the way to Whiterun and start talking to the Jarl before it CTD. I'm guessing that means I have too many script intensive mods. Can you suggest some to disable? I'd really rather not disable Frostfall and Wet and Cold, but I will disable Footprints and Enhanced Blood.

[scegielski]

Good call removing Footprints and Enhanced Blood. I'll bet that fixed it. Your 2794MB of RAM use is pretty close to the 3.1GB limit and I had the same crashing problems until I removed some mods like the aforementioned and brought my average memory use down below 2500MB.

[zoe23323]

Good call removing Footprints and Enhanced Blood. I'll bet that fixed it. Your 2794MB of RAM use is pretty close to the 3.1GB limit and I had the same crashing problems until I removed some mods like the aforementioned and brought my average memory use down below 2500MB.

Removing Footprints and Enhanced Blood did bring my RAM down to about 2400MB average, but it still crashes sometimes. I guess it's just something I have to deal with. It crashed when I was at the Guardian Stones, but it does that sometimes anyway. Do you know of any other script intensive mods, other than Frostfall and Wet and Cold, that I could disable?

[zoe23323]

Nope, nevermind, it didn't fix it. I crashed about ten minutes in. Urg, I'm gonna have to disable more mods.

[RazorXE]

I had random CTDs all the time but then I cleaned out not only my masterfile but also the mods that BOSS suggest needs cleaning.

[Pevey]

Simply disabling mods won't do much. They are already baked into your savegame.

 

There's really no way to tell which mod it is. But I myself prefer the simplicity of Get Snowy over Wet & Cold.

[linkjoy123]

What I love about this forum, is everyone suggests to disable some mods. When you do and still have crashing, then they blame your save.

 

The game is flawed dude, give up or you are going to just end up punching your screen. The engine is completely unstable, ever since the 1.9 patch and Dragonborn the game runs like crap.

 

For some reason everyone is in denial on these forums.

 

Always test for the placebo effect: Spawn 20 guard, activate God mode (in whatever city.) And have them wail away at you, if you are still freezing then you still have an issue. The game will usually freeze after 10 - 30 seconds (or less).

Edited October 18, 2013 by linkjoy123

[zoe23323]

Simply disabling mods won't do much. They are already baked into your savegame.

 

There's really no way to tell which mod it is. But I myself prefer the simplicity of Get Snowy over Wet & Cold.

 

 

I had random CTDs all the time but then I cleaned out not only my masterfile but also the mods that BOSS suggest needs cleaning.

 

 

What I love about this forum, is everyone suggests to disable some mods. When you do and still have crashing, then they blame your save.

 

The game is flawed dude, give up or you are going to just end up punching your screen. The engine is completely unstable, ever since the 1.9 patch and Dragonborn the game runs like crap.

 

For some reason everyone is in denial on these forums.

 

Always test for the placebo effect: Spawn 20 guard, activate God mode (in whatever city.) And have them wail away at you, if you are still freezing then you still have an issue. The game will usually freeze after 10 - 30 seconds (or less).

Alright, first, I gotta say that I know they're enabled in my saved games. If I disable one mod, even just one, loading a saved game crashes Skyrim automatically. That's why every time I've been trying to fix this, I've started a new game. Pretty sure I've said that about five times. So I disable the mods, start a new game, and it still crashes. Please, if you really want to help, read everything that I wrote and don't just skim and think you've found the problem. And I prefer Wet and Cold, so we have a difference of opinion.

 

I've cleaned out any dirty edits out of my mods already. Not sure what my BOSS log says right now, but I cleaned out all of the dirty edits and it still CTD.

 

I am aware that the game is flawed. I bought Skyrim the day it came out, modded it the week after. I've never had this problem before, which strikes me as strange. Two years of modding, yet this is the first time I have problems with CTD's? Ah well. My save files keep getting corrupted, so I'm not even able to test it. That's why I'm just disabling more mods. I'm keeping Frostfall and Wet and Cold, though.