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[AndyDocHolliday]

I've been battling for months to get the game working with the 200 or so mods I consider essential and I can't do it anymore! I've included as much detail as possible, please help! 

 

The game runs for a few minutes, then crashes to desktop either immediately after loading or in the middle of wandering around. I rarely get any stutter and usually run at 60fps. 

 

I use Mod Organizer, and Wrye Bash for bash patches. 

 

BOSS Stuff

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BOSS Load Order

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These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

Dawnguard.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

HearthFires.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Dragonborn.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

Warning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and ClimatesOfTamriel.esm it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here.

Warning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and ClimatesOfTamriel.esm it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here.

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active

Note: Use the Dawnguard version of Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm to have changes made to Dawnguard.

Contains dirty edits: 24 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

moonpath.esm Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

SkyMoMod.esm Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Solstheim Climate Overhaul.esm Active

SPIKE.esm Active

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}

Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt. After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}

Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active

ItRainedOn.esp Active

Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active

Morning Fogs.esp Active

RevampedExteriorFog.esp Active

SplashofRain.esp Active

Supreme Fog - CoT.esp Active

fantasy music overhaul.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp Active

BorderSense.esp Active

Cannabis.esp Active

CannabisUpdate.esp Active

Dead Body Collision.esp Active

DFB - Random Encounters.esp Active

Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active

Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+

Harvest More Food & Ingredients.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 36 ITM, 59 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

moredragonloot.esp Active

PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp Active

Point The Way.esp Active

Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp Active

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp Active

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp Active

Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp Active

Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp Active

Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp Active

Real Clouds.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 42 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

SabreFurBag.esp Active

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Traps Make Noise.esp Active

WerewolfAftermathEquipper.esp Active

WetandCold.esp Active

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Active

Footprints.esp Active

RaceMenu.esp Active

RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active

Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

towConversation.esp Active

SkyUI.esp Active

iHUD.esp Active

Customizable Camera.esp Active

Cloaks.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Immersive Weapons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Injure Set.esp Active

One handed Crossbow.esp Active

skyforgedShields.esp Active

Unique Uniques.esp Active

Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

Lock Overhaul.esp Active

DeadlyDragons.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

AgentOfRighteousMight.esp Active

BetterJorrvaskr.esp Active

buildablehouse.esp Active

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp Active

FZGuildOutposts.esp Active

FZGuildOutpost_DLC01.esp Active

FZGuildOutpostsDLC02.esp Active

FZDBFalkreathResurrect.esp Active

Inconsequential NPCs.esp Active

moonpath_questdata.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp Active

Northern Bathhouses.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 96 ITM, 12 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

OBIS.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

OBISDB.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

PumpingIron.esp Active

Radiance.esp Active

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

When Vampires Attack.esp Active

Morrowloot_nwah.esp Active

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

theWatchTowers.esp Active

throneroom.esp Active

TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active

Better Vampires.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Active

ESFCompanions.esp Active

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active

Werewolf Loot.esp Active

NonEssentialChildren.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Active

ArchmageTolfdir.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp Active

Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp Active

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp Active

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp Active

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

Headtracking.esp Active

HorsesGoneWild.esp Active

ImmediateDragons.esp Active

NoBlur.esp Active

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp Active

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Active

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active

Requires: Monster Mod and Immersive Creatures Patch \ Dawnguard + Dragonborn + Monster Mod + Immersive Creatures.

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active

dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp Active

The Grace of Divine -True 9 Divines Blessings-.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp  (PLUGIN IS SWITCHED OFF IN THE PLUGIN LIST)

Error: TimingIsEverything.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.

TorchRadius.esp Active

skyforgedWeapons.esp Active

Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp Active

Helgen Reborn.esp Active

Shortcuts.esp Active

Whiterun Expansion.esp Active

icefloes.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Tundra to forest.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 20 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Unique Grasses.esp Active

Beautiful Cities.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 22 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp (PLUGIN IS SWITCHED OFF IN THE PLUGIN LIST)

Error: RealisticRoomRental.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if this file is active without Realistic Room Rental

SkyrimSewers.esp Active

SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active

Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.

SoS - The Wilds.esp Active

Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.

Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

SoS - Civilization.esp Active

Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp Active

Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active

Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp Active

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp Active

Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp Active

abotFiresHurt.esp Active

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active

RND_USKP-Patch.esp Active

Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

Realistic Running Speed.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp  (PLUGIN IS SWITCHED OFF IN THE PLUGIN LIST)

 

 

Error: aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons 

BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp Active

Incompatible with: BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp (PLUGIN IS SWITCHED OFF IN THE PLUGIN LIST)

Note: This patch is only usable with the Moonlight Tales compatible version of Werewolf Mastery.

Error: WerewolfMastery.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if this file is active without Werewolf Mastery

Incompatible with: BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp

ShoutCD.esp Active

InvestedMagic.esp Active

DGInvestedMagic.esp Active

Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

Locational Damage.esp Active

TrueYield.esp Active

Sneak Tools.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active

NoFallDamageforVL.esp Active

Vampirelordroyal.esp Active

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active

Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.

Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp Active

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp Active

No NPC Greetings.esp Active

ESFAela.esp Active

Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp Active

moveit.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp Active

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp Active

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.

First Person Messages.esp Active

TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp Active

TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp Active

getSnowy.esp Active

RealShelter.esp Active

Spells Cast Light.esp Active

WATER.esp Active

WATER Plants.esp Active

WATER DB Waves.esp Active

RND_Water-Patch.esp Active

Unique Region Names.esp Active

Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active

User Rules

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When I click the 'There are potential problems with your setup', it details all these mods listed below and how to fix them in the load order, so I defined some user rules to hopefully sort it out.

 

Rule Applied Details (if applicable)

Sort Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp after Update.esm ?

Sort Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp after Dawnguard.esm ?

Sort Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp after HearthFires.esm ?

Sort Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp after Dragonborn.esm ?

Sort Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp before Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ?

Sort TheChoiceIsYours.esp after Morrowloot_nwah.esp ?

Sort Thieves Guild Requirements.esp after TheChoiceIsYours.esp ?

Sort Morrowloot_nwah.esp after When Vampires Attack.esp ?

Sort Better Vampires.esp after Thieves Guild Requirements.esp ?

Sort Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp after Better Vampires.esp ?

Sort ESFCompanions.esp after Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ?

Sort Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp after ESFCompanions.esp ?

Sort Werewolf Loot.esp after Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ?

Sort NonEssentialChildren.esp after Werewolf Loot.esp ?

Sort Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp after NonEssentialChildren.esp ?

Sort The Dance Of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp before Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ?

 

INI Files

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Skyrim.ini

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[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

bTreesRecieveShadows=1

bDrawLandShadows=1

fSunShadowUpdateTime=0

fSunUpdateThreshold=2.0

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6

 

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

iMinMemoryPageSize=128

iMaxMemoryPageSize=512

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

bEnableProfiling=0

 

[General]

sIntroSequence=

fFlickeringLightDistance=8192

SkrimPrefs.ini

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[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=1

bMouseAcceleration=0

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

fShadowBiasScale=0.25

fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000

fShadowDistance=4000

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iShadowMapResolution=2048

bFXAAEnabled=0

iMaxAnisotropy=8

fGamma=1.0000

iShadowFilter=3

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=1000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

fLightLODStartFade=2500

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

bTransparencyMultisampling=0

iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=8

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=0

bDrawLandShadows=0

bDrawShadows=1

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=900

iSize W=1440

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007

iScreenShotIndex=8

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30

sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series"

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=0

bShadowsOnGrass=1

bDeferredShadows=1

[Imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=1

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=1

fGrassStartFadeDistance=5000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=400.0000

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

[MAIN]

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

bGamepadEnable=1

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[Interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bGeneralSubtitles=1

bShowCompass=1

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

[Controls]

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0220

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.9000

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bUseKinect=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[SaveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=5.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=0.5000

uID3=466532

fVal2=0.8000

uID2=554685

fVal1=0.8000

uID1=1007612

fVal0=1.0000

uID0=94881

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[General]

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=40000

fBlockMaximumDistance=150000

fBlockLevel1Distance=40000

fBlockLevel0Distance=25000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.1

bShowLODInEditor=0

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40

[Decals]

bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1

uMaxDecals=250

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecals=50

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5

fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5

fLODFadeOutMultActors=6

[LAUNCHER]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=0

uLastAspectRatio=4

[BlurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[BlurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

 

System Info

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64-bit Windows 7 Service Pack 1

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Processor 3.21 GHz

12.0 GB RAM

 

I run SKSE, Wrye Bash, Dual Sheath Redux etc all out of the Mod Organizer. I have a different 'test' profile where I trimmed the fat down to 140 mods and had the same issues. I have no idea how to do TES5Edit cleaning. Also worth mentioning I am trying getting these issues with completely fresh saves - any time I change anything I restart and will continue to do so until I get these issues resolved. 

If there is any more info I can provide, please tell me! I love Skyrim to pieces and this is tearing me apart. :C

 

Thank you to anybody that takes a look, 

Andy

[Lord Garon]

It is REALLY difficult to help in this situation; many mods already installed, no idea when the problem started (after a particular mod was installed), no idea if you have trouble with vanilla Skyrim, etc.

 

You do use some good tools, but, as a first step, you NEED to clean the mods with TES5EDIT which BOSS says to clean. Those warnings are in BOSS for good reasons (deleted references, flagged as UDR, can cause CTD's). Gopher has a good video to get you started.

 

MO has a profile ability to let you run different mod setups. I don't use MO so I don't know the details, but I would first try a new profile (watch out for your current savegames!) with default ini files and ONLY vanilla Skyrim, cleaned DLC, Unofficial patches, SKSE, and your ENB. I would also add SSME ( or use the patched SKSE ) to implement Sheson's memory fix. Once your basic setup is running okay, then I would add cleaned mods IN YOUR CURRENT LOAD ORDER sequence (if possible) to the new profile, run BOSS, generate a new bashed patch if necessary, and test. If its a large mod, just add it by itself. Add just a few mods at a time (one at a time is ideal) and test your game after each addition so you can tell what might be causing a problem. Slowly work your new profile up to your desired mod load. It may take a while, but you've spent months trying to fix your old setup. A little time now will be time well spent. Make sure your mods are updated and that you have the correct compatibility patches as well.

 

As you have discovered, modding Skyrim is not as simple as it may seem. But, if you follow mod author instructions, use BOSS, BASH, and TES5EDIT, implement the Skyrim Memory fixes (ENB and Sheson's patch), and test while adding mods, you can have a very complex Skyrim setup which runs very reliably. I've had 6 or 7 CTD's in months of playing, and fixed every one by following the above process. Good luck.

 

EDIT: I've been told that MO can run all the third party tools (BOSS, BASH, TES5EDIT) from within MO. I guess the ideal process would start with a pristine vanilla Skyrim installation and add, clean, BASH, and sort ALL mods via MO. I "believe" you still have to add SKSE, ENBseries, and SSME manually as they go in the Skyrim directory and MO won't add those programs by itself. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Edited by Lord Garon, 07 February 2014 - 07:51 PM.

[charlottenoyen]

I've had great success using a combination of these (ALL of these, in this order):

 

ClearInvalidRegistrations (requires SKSE)

This S.T.E.P. guide

Savegame Cleaner

This guide (read the sticky in the comments too!)

 

Try those if doing what Lord Garon recommends isn't working for you. But yeah, TES5EDIT cleaning is very important. Seriously just do what BOSS tells you to do. Here's the video and the tutorial. 

 

I feel your pain, by the way. It can be a real blow to lose so many hours of play. Hope one of these works. Out of curiosity, how big are your latest save files?

[ExEvolution]

Are you using Sheson's memory hack?

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/50305/?

[AndyDocHolliday]

Thanks for the awesomely overwhelming responses guys! Looks like I'll be spending the rest of the day (it's 10AM here in Australia) working through it and getting it functional. I will post back as soon as I have some results!

 

<3

[charlottenoyen]

Do let us know if it works. And good luck!

[AndyDocHolliday]

Just as a side-question, isn't a little irresponsible for mod authors to upload mods that haven't been cleaned? Or am I just talking out of my butt?  

[AndyDocHolliday]

OKAY so I just followed the guides in the TES5Edit Mod Cleaning Tutorial on the Creation Kit site and cleaned up Update.esm, following all the steps it gave me to the letter. Upon booting up BOSS and running it, no more dirty edits notification on the update! Yay! However, I am still getting;

 

• Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

Is this an issue? 

[AndyDocHolliday]

Nevermind! Did some research on the bash tag suggestion, now know it's just to help out wrye bash for bash patches.  

[charlottenoyen]

Just as a side-question, isn't a little irresponsible for mod authors to upload mods that haven't been cleaned? Or am I just talking out of my butt?  

 

As far as I know it's best practice to clean your own mods, but some authors simply don't know they should, or the mods were created before changes were made to the construction kit or the game itself, or before TES5EDIT was out. From what I understand there's a lot of ways a dirty edit might slip through the cracks without any malice or laziness on the part of the authors.

 

And yes, you can ignore those bash tag suggestions.