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[Purr4me]

one word. steam .it  changed all the settings and inside of it are the configurations you need to reset.....BUT , I 'll slow down and take in a breath here. let's focus on exactly in sequence what took place. bit by bit and by what ...exactly.?

 

 

When booting the PC, the graphics card said there was a new driver update.  <--?

Or was it Windows Update? because if it was windows Update, you can roll it all back to yesterday. and turn off windows update now.

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I couldn't be any angrier / frustrated right now.

I was getting infrequent CTDs a week after this posting, and removed all SkyTEST related mods to resolve that. I took a two week break after working so hard on it since NOvember.

I finally had a night free to just kick back, relax and play the modded game.



When booting the PC, the graphics card said there was a new driver update. (ByKitty) This should not have taken place at  all.

 

(I performed that update), What update and with whom?

 

restarted the PC, and when loading up Skyrim,

 

I was told it was going to detect my hardware as if the ini wasn't there to tell it my preferences. Told by what? "Steam or the games launcher?"

 

 

Knowing this would have reset the ini, replaced them with my back ups,

You Dig out steams preferences and reset them instead to your preferences. what ever it uses to set the game up you use/over write it.

 

 

and when trying to launch the game, AGAIN I got the message. Again. by what?

 

It will not let me use my ini back ups without that message. Where are these (ini) files your talking about located?

I figured maybe that message isn't changing anything, so I'll just start playing and see how it goes, and now all kinds of freezes and CTDs occur within minutes.

yeah, and I expect as much as there should not have been any further updates required.

Is this the norm experience for people who mod their games? Only if something was missed. I am assuming you missed nothing as you had a week long play through so something else has taken place.

 

 

SHould I be having this much trouble with the rig I invested nearly $1000 on? No

 

Kitty? Anyone? At this point, I'm ready to cut my losses and just abandon the PC Gaming altogether. I haven't been able to just relax and enjoy a modded Skyrim, and I've been trying for 5 months now.

 

I need facts.

Seriously, today was the first time I wept in nearly a decade, and to say it was over a game, is remarkably sad.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

I need to keep  clear what is at fault.

 

I'll wait for you post.

Edited by Purr4me, 05 March 2014 - 05:22 AM.

[CyberOcelot]

Hi Kitty,

Thanks for popping in again.

The only change was me updating the driver for my graphics card. 

I have GeForce Experience installed which notifies users of driver updates for their graphics cards. To be safe, I never download the Beta versions, of course. Here's a link for your review if you're not familiar with it...

http://www.geforce.com/drivers

I don't plan to only play Skyrim on my PC, so being able to update the driver is going to be necessary for me moving forward. It is not a Beta Driver, and I see no reports of issues with it since it was released.

The pop up is from the Skyrim Launcher (when double-clicking TESV.exe).  This is from when the game is launching, and then detects my hardware to determine the appropriate settings. In my case, the setting it always picks is "Ultra". Regardless, I'm under the impression this signifies it is generating new ini files. I double checked to ensure my Graphics Card settings did not change (as some changes were required for my ENB) and all was well. So, I deleted the ini files, and pasted my backups copies in their place. 

I tried to launch the game, and again, I got the message that it was detecting my hardware. If it keeps doing that every time I paste my ini file, I'll never be able to restore my old ini settings.

[Purr4me]

I'm under the impression this signifies it is generating new ini files.

Correct

 

(as some changes were required for my ENB)

This is where things go bad.

 

So, I deleted the ini files, and pasted my backups copies in their place.

Where ARE these at?

[CyberOcelot]

The changes for the ENB were tested to be stable and backed up.  <-- At least I did that right!   LOL! 

 

The backups were stored on an external HDD. 

 

The culprit of this issue is that I can't restore my backed up ini files without getting that pop up from the game launcher that it's replacing my inis. How can I get my backed up inis in place?

I delete the ini  files in C drive (in documents) and paste the new ones. Is that the correct way of doing it?

Edited by CyberOcelot, 05 March 2014 - 04:06 PM.

[Purr4me]

 

The backups were stored on an external HDD

ok, Blind here, what ini files did you delete and where are these ini files located that you are deleting and replacing "located" ?

 

I don't care about where the backups are stored.

 

 

the game needs to read It's ini files, Steam needs to copy it's updated ini files from it's online catch, these are  stored in an Encrypted *.blob file for which you have no access too. IF you change things on the machine  that steam is running on, IT will update and replace what ever you do.

 

this is the focal point.

 

the game, has ini files with in it's main game folder, the root of the game,  the game has ioni files also in the user /documents\My Games\skyrim  folder too.

 

not to confuse you  but I am being confused here. I  need explicit  information .

 

IF the games launcher is constantly resetting. reboot that machine. The launcher should not be doing that.

[CyberOcelot]

The ini files I'm deleting and replacing are in C drive / user / documents / my games / Skyrim  (The game itself is in my D drive (a dedicated drive for games)

 

The game's launcher isn't constantly resetting. It resets every time I try to replace the inis with my back ups, which essentially means, it resets my back ups every time. If I don't replace the inis with my back ups, I can go in and play. But of course, the ini at default is not correct, so I crash.

[Purr4me]

ok listen very carefully, the default ini files, there should be 4 of them + one that has the name "Default_.ini" in the games main folder.

 

take your 1rst read  documents ini file, open it. Go to the game directory and open it's Default ini file. these two file should at the moment be identical, your back up file "ini" will not be the same, the default file needs to be over written by your choices.

 

things can get foggy here. backups, of  backups,  so stop. get  sneaky and assemble a set of directories on the system, some where out of reach of any networks.

 

3 or 4 folders and name these to your understand of what they represent. copy what  is sitting there in to those folders appropriately names.

 

now. you tweaks folder should have a copy of all files except the backed up ones.

edit  or open  the backed up ini, select all, minimize it, that is now sitting in ram, clipboard, all your going to need is to paste this info into the games Defaulting ini file, / OVER WRITE Its' innards. save it. put that back into the games folder. now, when the snake raises its' ugly head to bite you ,you  have already bit it back. yes, it  will update it's ini files but now, it will use what YOU want.

[Purr4me]

I should write an article about these things here. really.

Basically (CyberOceLot) you  are familiar with ENB binary activities, these are the same "method" I just explained too you here.

 

The ENB is  a set of instructions  and a custom made Binary / d3d9.dll file.  the purpose is to over write the systems the game resides on.

 

what is missed "Omitted" from this Equations is the fact of the windows operating systems will also be using  it's own d3d9.dll at the same time. there are 3 windows opening up at launch of the game.

 

windows XP has only 2. XP has the capability to use Dos as well, where windows 7, it will not allow a full Dos Environment for the normal user base.

 

the game runs in a Dos box, but the game was not Originally designed for these systems. The interesting thing about how it works is, the methods used.

Steam needs to be connected to your desktop and the browsers data. It has also an overlay. Those that have downloaded Just the steam product will see and realize just how big steam really is.

 

these problems you  are having is dealing wit hthat single display adapters functions and you are tweaking how it works using the games and software's we make to Break the structure of the game and make it do our bidding . To modify the game is the name of this game.

 

you can't do that on a system that does not meet the needed requirements. now, you went through a lot to upgrade and meet the systems requirements for a game not made for it.  windows is an office program. you have at the moment two choices of d3d9.dll to use on that overlay.

 

how ever, how many different versions of that single file are sitting on that system?

 

placing the d3d9.dll tells the system VIA the games engine to use it...well it is being used as an override to the already loaded into ram d3d9.dll sitting in the system32 directory for that desktop. again, this is a method of "Overriding" things.

 

game structure. load order. format of files used and the governing  functions for them control what over rides what and in which order  to do so  in a Environment so hostile to its normal usage.

 

long winded bag of wind this seems to be, it is what it is. TESedit uses a set of rules to use on the files, there are command line functions to over ride some of the rules for it, the CK also contains these things too.  "The method" Last file loading wins.

 

so Even though all f these things  are fighting the processes, the hidden data that lost......is still in there and it is still loaded  in ram.

The game you are using contains new software that is Alien to any windows system. Ppyrus. It's new coding  scripted functions , Built in script extender according to it's Wiki. Skyrim only. this factor is all by it's self, + Sky-rim used Adobe flash too, on launch which is another  screen / display driver issue that is over looked.

 

All of this  is for just a single player game and is not worth my time or money to even use. On the PS4? yes, it runs fine. For PC's, it takes a lot of know how to get things up to speed and finding that sweet spot is a pot of gold once found.

 

The methods used. are to override  the overrides from the networks to fit  your needs and wants. IF you forget  that is needed, then you  are left to use what ever  decides IT needs, and regardless of what you may think it needs, ENB's are not part of the Vanilla format nor are they considered by any one but modders. It is ONLY a method to get what you can get from using the CK with out  the knowledge required to use the ck.

 

Sweetfx is a built in display driver function that has been ripped out of Venders software and used for these games. ATI radon, Nvidia and the lot. installing these drivers  we are met with advertising that displays these facts and there are Eula's you must read, which I know for a fact no one reads, contains all of this information.

 

so I am not  well versed in production. I am well read of what I had used.

 

you want to program skyrim to run as you like it? you need to take a leap of faith about how far your willing to go and learn how to do it.

 

Prior to allowing any game installed regardless of source/ manufacturer, there is a window that asks " Do you want to run the game now?"

 

I wonder how many people  just plain stop at that point and just minimize the installer rand look and see what was installed?

You want  your preferences to be  done from the get go? stop. smell what being put in to the drive, edit it before it has any chance of doing other than what you want ,you spec's can be used prior to running the game, and the installer will use your specs if done correctly before allowing it to initializes for the first run of the game, from this moment on just as any OS, that game will be yours. and even if steam decides to override your stuff ,it still needs to pull it's data from your games directory default installed software and file path and registry sentient to all settings and file before it updates any thing.

 

Be smart. get it done once, do not  over mod the thing, keep just what the default setting you make as lean as possible and then once you have it, back that up into a single iso image off line as a back up. these things will never get changed.

 

the machine changes every 4 days like clock work. that iso just sits there. you r back ups just sit there.

now that's a lot to post here.  I sure as heck hope it is worth my time to post this.

 

your friend Kitty