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[Emcitement]

Lure Saadia and then kill them both

 

I did that since the Alik'r guy has some extra gold on him and the scimitar.

I planned to kill Saadia for one main reason:
It annoyed me that every single time I sat down in the inn she'd come up and start a conversation with me trying to get me to buy a drink.

 

After she dies, she's not there to do that anymore

 

Who I really think is telling the truth?

I dunno'. Leaning towards the Alik'r guys.

Edited by Emcitement, 08 March 2014 - 04:43 PM.

[Relativelybest]

Depends on wether I'm wearing my Doyle hat or my Watson hat.

 

If I'm going by Doyle logic, I'd assume that not knowing who is telling the truth is the whole point of the quest, and that Saadia's story being more inconsistent is a result of bad writing. Most likely, they're both supposed to come across as untrustworthy, forcing the player to make a choice based on gut feeling either way.

 

If I'm going by Watson logic, I'd say the mercenaries have a more solid reasoning. That said, my character still decided to help her, since she was clearly the underdog in this scenario regardless of what she did.

[lpdude690]

What hurts the Alikr's case was that they were hiding behind bandits in a hideout.

[glowbow11]

What hurts the Alikr's case was that they were hiding behind bandits in a hideout.

they "were" the bandits, if you decide to go with saadia their names will show as bandits even though they are not. 

I don't know where i heard this but i think it's true

[BluePianoTwo]

 

What hurts the Alikr's case was that they were hiding behind bandits in a hideout.

they "were" the bandits, if you decide to go with saadia their names will show as bandits even though they are not. 

I don't know where i heard this but i think it's true

 

There are bandits at the beginning of the cave, but the Alik'r are in the back room. 

 

While I tend to believe that the Alik'r are in the right for reasons above, I always side with Saadia.  The Bannered Mare feels empty without her.

[Riprock]

The thing that always got me about this was: why would the goody-guys hide in a lair of bandits? I feel Saadia is lying, and that the devs simply screwed up by making the Alik'r hide in a bandit sanctuary, but it is a good question, in my opinion

[Jokerine]

Saadia must go because I have a huge crush on Kematu 

[mbgamet]

You don't have to do Swindler's Den as part of the Saadia (my time of need), head straight to Rorikstead, like the first Alik'r tell you  "if you hear of anything we'll be in Rorikstead" which they are in the INN there. Choose sooner rather than later.  I read someplace you can let kamatu stun Saadia, collect the reward, kill him... loot him, she wakes up pissed... calm her, she pays you, then kill her and loot her stuff.. you get ton of gold and loot...  that would be the evil dragonborn way, i guess.  (or just the most profitable)

 

Kamatu says things like "The resistance is alive and well in Hammerfell"  leads me to believe they are working for the houses or governing bodies of hammerfell... and not the thalmor... Kamatu alludes to her having a trial and paying for her crimes once returned to hammerfell her fate is out of his hands.  so he fully intends on delivering her to hammerfell alive to serve justice, and if you kill her, he gets pissed and doesn't pay anything. He says some rude thing i forget...ruined it or everything.  but it's the last you see of them i think

[chanchan05]

 

 

What hurts the Alikr's case was that they were hiding behind bandits in a hideout.

they "were" the bandits, if you decide to go with saadia their names will show as bandits even though they are not. 

I don't know where i heard this but i think it's true

 

There are bandits at the beginning of the cave, but the Alik'r are in the back room. 

 

While I tend to believe that the Alik'r are in the right for reasons above, I always side with Saadia.  The Bannered Mare feels empty without her.

 

 

Kill Saadia and get one of these girls instead:

 

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/51189/?

[avallanche]

Clearly both of them are lying, the two of them have inconsistency on their speech, but the main reasons that made me side with the alik'r is: 

 

- Why someone hidding from the thalmor would be working in the inn of Whiterun, the trade center of all Skyrim and a major target for the empire? Why not some small village near windhelm, where the empire and the thalmor have virtually non acess? The only ones that the guards will keep away from the city are the alikr's, not the thalmor.

 

- Why the dominion would send mercenary / assassins all the way from Hammerfell to capture ( or kill, like she said ) someone who spoke against the dominion? Hammerfell fought the dominion, so is probably still a lot of people there that still speak against them. Why the interest in this one person on the run? And why not hire some locals to do the job, some infiltrated agents like they usually do?

 

So, the most plausible cenario is that she indeed tried to sell hammerfell, tried to sabotage the resistance, and when they won the war and the peace treaty was sign, she run. Now they want her back.