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[EiderCheesyWheel]

In response to post #12885833. #12926183 is also a reply to the same post.

That's cool. I can only imagine how tedious the scripting must be. I know basic Javascript and Python yet it looks confusing to me!

-ECW

[ElderScrollsFan001]

do you think it might causes any conflict with this mod?

eeks Smithing Mod by eek
http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/14725/?

[HareDeLune]

I think this is a good idea for a mod. IMO, Bethesda doesn't do anything to differentiate many of the places in their games. I was very, very disappointed in how all the Inns in Skyrim are identical, for example.

What I'd like to see in the IC shops is more merchandise! A lot more. Most of them have this large floor space, and they'll have a few items on display here and there, and that's it! It's the Imperial City, for gosh sakes! "THE" place to go if you want to buy anything. I've even heard others say the same...
I don't know if doing such a thing would unbalance the game, but it would sure make for a more believable shopping experience.
I also think that the smiths should be able to make items for you. They should only be vanilla items, and things the smith doesn't have in their inventory already. They should take an appropriate time to make ( at least a week, except for things like daggers, which should take a few days. After all, you're not the only customer! ), and they should be more expensive than the vanilla item would normally be, but not much more expensive.
Come to think of it, why shouldn't you be able to commission a scroll or staff from the mages, as well? Although I think the commissioned items should be vanilla items, each vendor might have a 'specialty' item. Rasheda sells such an item in the vanilla game. As long as they weren't too powerful.

I've always liked the outdoor dining areas I've seen in the screenies for the Better Cities mod. Outside the Feed Bag, for instance. I hope you will consider doing something of that nature for folks who can't use the Better Cities mod, or who don't want to for some reason.

Oh, one more thing: 'Spell Teacher' might be a better name than 'Spell Learner'. Just sayin'.

Yes, I know I'm suggesting you heap piles more work on your head. Please feel very free to ignore my suggestions entirely, but I hope you are able to make some use of them, and thanks for the work you've put in so far.

Edited by HareDeLune, 24 March 2014 - 08:16 PM.

[nelsonassassin]

It modifies shops in the IC Market district, so yes, it will cause object conflicts. (Only if the smithy area is in a spot I used.)

[nelsonassassin]

In response to post #13216243.

It is actually a good list of ideas, and I think I'll do them to my best ability.
Well, try to, at least!

Also, adding a few items and merchandise to vendors wouldn't harm the game, since placing vanilla items generally is level-based.
Mod items, would always appear though

And, doing something similar to Better Cities is a good idea, too, I think I'll take a look into that.

EDIT: The smithy idea to craft weapons for you would generally be similar to that of Imperial Dragon Armor. I suppose I could make a similar script for X amount of time and have the item appear waiting for you in the shop!

Edited by nelsonassassin, 27 March 2014 - 08:15 PM.

[nelsonassassin]

New massive update - Been gone for a long time, but just decided to continue my work with this project. This project now has added:

Merchant resizing - I've resized and edited the merchant's skill to match their race, spell lists, and body size. Body size I have determined by job, age, and skill levels. For example, Rohassan I have made bigger, since she is a smith, and rather than making her a mage, she uses a fine steel claymore, rather than that rusty bucket of a sword.

Lots of more shop content - Added many more weapons into The Fighting Chance, and other shops. The categories of the weapons are judged by what shop it is. I've made it seem more organized, as if it were "on display". I mean, I keep finding Middle Class items within the IC Market. Like HareDeLune said, this is the damned IC Market, not Bravil. High-class items. I hate how just the castles have high class items. Really, merchants in the MAIN go-to place to shop at should be fairly rich, don't you think?

Less window lighting - Bethesda was so lazy to create actual window light that they just added cavelight to the windows. Seriously, Bethesda? It's actually CaveBlue100. AKA, ugly ass lighting, colored terribly, and makes the room lighting seem really crappy. I've added many more candles and hanging lanterns to fill up the room with some light.

Dining areas - Dining areas added for some shops, they may include a small table with some meat and corn, or perhaps a large table to fit a family of two or three. These serve for either you or the shopkeepers, but do know that the items on the plate aren't yours.

More darker wood - I left out some areas with the dark wood because I felt like it might've overdone it, but I decided, nah, it looks damn good. I have left out a few parts like in Mystic Emporium, there are two counter tops that are regular, but a counter top that's rounded in the center of them polished. (Adding the small little details)

Detailed candles - The candles are bland as hell, and always look the same. I've fixed this, by creating different shades of the candles. Some are very pure white, some are dark brown, some are burnt yellow. You'll see this variation in some stores.

Robbing (Highly Alpha, Still Scripting) - You can now rob stores. You can pick the lock on their store merchandise chest, and steal SOME (not all for the sake of you not being able to steal everything every 72 hrs and then just sell it at a fence or some crap.) of their goods. Soon, upon breaking in, the merchant will automatically become aggressive and outright hate you. Their disposition will immediately drop to 0 and their aggressiveness will increase, likely resulting in an attack. Breaking automatically adds a bounty of 1250, (Not scripted yet, as I have said, extremely alpha stage)and guards will pursue you. (Note that with certain mods like Guard Overhaul will only apply that bounty to the specific city, as stated in their mod.)

More to come, enjoy the release!

[EiderCheesyWheel]

Hi once again!

I was just wondering more about the robbing portion of this mod. So, even if you rob the place undetected, the shopkeeper will still be aggressive at you?

Just a question, because I like the idea of robbing stores and getting away with it perfectly.

All the best.

-ECW