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Hi there,

Don't often post here but after returning to FO3 from a long break in time and having just completed the DLC: PLO. I rehired Jessi at my Megaton House (after having told her to stay in Megaton for PLO) and got the menu freeze error on my first conversation after being successfully able to rehire her.

Interestingly, I never had this problem before in many, many hours of game play and the only difference between earlier game play and now is that I've installed MSZ (the official DLCs are in correct order).

I have tried to find XSoldier's work around but it seems to entail speaking to Jessi and choosing a different menu option when rehiring and seem to be predicated on Jessi being stuck in guard mode rather than home mode.

I will still try his workaround for an earlier save to see if it solves the problem. Pity I have to re-order all the mess than I imported from PLO.

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I have tried to find XSoldier's work around but it seems to entail speaking to Jessi and choosing a different menu option when rehiring and seem to be predicated on Jessi being stuck in guard mode rather than home mode.


That just slipped my mind, the Home mode Dialogue is the same as the Guard Dialog, so it's probably not solely the Guard Code then.

The workaround should still work then with Home Mode if Jessi ever bugs out later on.

Loxy, are both the dialogs separate or are they the same in the code? I haven't actually seen the actual code to check myself, and I don't have the time right now to do so.

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@ XSoldier, I can confirm that your work around resolved the problem in that I reloaded the game, chose your suggested dialogue options and have been able to interact with Jessi normally.

As before, it is interesting that I had never previously encountered the menu freeze bug in many hours of play despite on multiple occasions asking Jessi to go home or guard a location.

Thanks again for working out the fix.

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So what happens if you weren't aware of this freeze bug after the fact and you saved the game. Now whenever I talk to her all she says is the hail greeting and freezes. Can I still get around this even though I saved before realizing she was bugged? I even tried to remove the mod and add it back again and it didn't change a thing.

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So what happens if you weren't aware of this freeze bug after the fact and you saved the game. Now whenever I talk to her all she says is the hail greeting and freezes. Can I still get around this even though I saved before realizing she was bugged? I even tried to remove the mod and add it back again and it didn't change a thing.

The bypass logically works when she's working fine, or loading a previous save where she was working fine before it bugged up, or First Time Use of Jessi

If you're not making a number of separate saves (Which you should actually be doing in the first place, regardless on how far you go in the game) then you can't do anything about it but follow the instructions strictly specified in the 'Known Issues' of the readme, only then you can use my workaround for now on.

But you said you removed and added the the mod, with no change. That doesn't make sense, you DID do the procedure in the readme properly right?

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Leave it to me to be an idiot. Went through the readme checked through it all and got her reset. No issues now, I'm just never going to tell her to guard again lol. Thanks for the help XSoldier!

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This is odd. A few days ago I tried to intentionally trigger the freeze bug by telling Jessie to guard like 20 times in a row, and got nothing.

Last night, I told her to guard, did a few errands, mistakenly told her to get moving using the first option in the first dialog --BAM! Freeze bug. Loaded the savegame, used the second option in the first dialogue --No bug.

So apparently we've learned this is A SMART BUG! which will only pop up when IT KNOWS you're not expecting it. When you try to force it to happen, it remains hidden. Kinda scary, no? =O

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Hey all. Yep its a pain in the butt. This is why I have had so much trouble tracking it down.

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jaykid has come up with an interesting work around for the freeze maybe.

It will involve turning her friendly fire on and then killing her. rezzing her via the console again. It maybe easier than doing the clean save thing.

I will have to check the Variable names and get back to you tomorrow with the commands.

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Resurrect?

I haven't checked it just yet, but if it makes it easier than the clean save, then the resurrect command might cause a problem to her stats, hopefully not since it's a different case.

I say this because, before I downloaded a mod that makes the Caravan Merchants Essential, merely trying to resurrect them reset their repair level and unable to complete its unmarked quest (Merchant Empire).

I will somehow check this after i fix the stuttering radio that just recently arose again after installing the latest CCCP (basically, if i have the time or patience)




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