I'm wondering if some die-hard modder out there could help me cut down my load order

[warriormantis]

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

SPERG.esm

daymoyl.esm

TKChildren.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp

ERSO 23 - Lockpicking Perks Changes.esp

3DNPC.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

SkyUI.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Footprints.esp

PhysicsImpactDamageFix.esp

ERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.esp

PumpingIron.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

Brows.esp

Beards.esp

Catlike Khajiit.esp

ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp

Animations.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

NB-Scars.esp

Draugr_Horror_Sound.esp

MoreBrains.esp

TKChildren_HF.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

childskeletonfix.esp

ERSO 25 - Enchanting Perks Changes.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

BFSEffects.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

CharGen Morphs.esp

Headtracking.esp

HeartBreaker.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp

EEO Morphs.esp

iHUD.esp

Immersive NPC in the dark.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Pure Weather.esp

Project Ultimatum.esp

Omegared99-GalleryOfArmor.esp

Order My Items.esp

ImmersiveFP.esp

Update_Horror_Draugr.esp

RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp

moveitLWT.esp

SleepTight.esp

vwr Wet Eyes.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

SRTOParallax.esp

Supernatural AI - Ideal Diffuclty Settings.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

TKChildren+3DNPC.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp

WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

AOS.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS_EBT Patch.esp

AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp

ADS.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

TradeRoutes.esp

FootstepsSoundsOverhaul.esp

Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp

IHSS-FSO.esp

ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp

ERSO 29 - DPMO.esp

Morrowloot.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Supernatural AI - Vampires & Monsters.esp

Supernatural AI - Humans & Undeads.esp

UltimateCombat.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

advancedwerewolf.esp

ERSO 02 - EFMS vanilla heights.esp

Supernatural AI - Wilderness.esp

ERSO 02.1 - Realistic Animal Loots.esp

Supernatural AI - Wilderness - SkyTest Patch.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

rcrnShaders.esp

SnowShaderFix.esp

RealShelter.esp

Pureweather.esp

AOS2_DGDB Patch.esp

Immersive Sounds - Footsteps Dragonborn Patch.esp

RCRNdgdb.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills Wyrmstooth.esp

Supernatural AI - Town Npc.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

OBIS.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

CommonClothes.esp

Supernatural AI - Bestiary.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Supernatural AI - Assorted adjustments.esp

trulyundead.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

CCO_SIC_Patch.esp

SPERG-DB.esp

SPERG.esp

ERSO 08.99 - Lord of the Dead.esp

Perk Fix Overhaul.esp

Supernatural AI - Dragonborn.esp

WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp

Brigandage.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

OBISDB.esp

OBIS-UDBP Patch.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

Destructible_bottles.esp

AOS_FIO Patch.esp

Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged - Deep Immersion.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

TKChildren_DB.esp

STEP Core Patch.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

AOS_RealisticWater2 patch.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

AOS_ADS Patch.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

wizDynamicThings.esp

AOS_ICS Patch.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp

SPERG Immersive Armors.esp

SPERG-DG.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

AOS_USKP patch.esp

AOS-GDO Patch.esp

Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp

_admod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

TKChildren_V.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

ETaC - Complete NSutR Patch.esp

Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuinsExterior.esp

ETaC - Complete 3DNPC Patch.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

Immersive Patrols Merged All.esp

Point The Way.esp

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

AOS2-RCRN_AE_Patch.esp

Pureweather_AOS2 Patch.esp

Inigo.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

Morrowloot LWE.esp

Endgame NPC Overhaul.esp

Aela.esp

Catlike Khajiit + NPCs.esp

BW v2.6.esp

HothFollower.esp

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

Supernatural AI - Serana.esp

Serana.esp

CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp

OBIS-IW Patch.esp

Purewaters.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

BatTravel.esp

FSP - Unique Towns & Locations.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

Animated Enchantments.esp

Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp

CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

GuardedBorders.esp

FunctionalBags.esp

AlternativeCraftingSystem.esp

WATER Plants.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

Extended Encounters.esp

HoldBorderBanners.esp

KonnektorDragonborn.esp

AOS_CWO Patch.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

CombatDramaOverhaul.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

iNeed.esp

OBIS-USKP Patch.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

RCRNvolumetric.esp

Real Clouds.esp

WerewolfAftermathEquipper.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

As you can see the number of mods is too damn high. Could somebody help me cut this down?

[Hyacathusarullistad]

Is this a BOSS sorted load order? I suspect not. That's the first thing you should do. It should help with any stability issues you may be having, but if nothing else it will group plugins from the same mod more or less together in most cases, which will help indicate which options from which mods you're using. As it is it's quite difficult to tell for certain what recommendations one could make.

 

Are you looking to trim your load order for the start of a new playthrough? Because if you're looking to do this mid-playthrough, you should know that removing mods from a save isn't recommended. If you expect to be uninstalling anything you should be prepared to start a new game.

[warriormantis]

yeah I'm prepared to start a new game, and I've used LOOT to sort the load order; not sure if that makes a difference to using BOSS

[Hyacathusarullistad]

My understanding is that LOOT is still very much an alpha phase program. As far as I'm aware the conventional wisdom is that BOSS is currently more reliable. I could be mistaken though - if I am, someone will likely correct me.

 

There are a few things I see though that could help though.

 

First, you can uncheck StaticMeshImprovement.esp. While the mod itself is basically a must-have, the handful of changes made by that specific plugin are now covered by the Unofficial Skyrim Patch.

You can also uncheck Dr_Bandolier and Dr_BandolierDG, as Complete Crafting Overhaul has the Bandoliers mod integrated into it. You still need the mod itself installed for the meshes and textures, but you don't need the .esp files active. If you leave them active, you might find that every bandolier and pouch appears in the crafting menus twice. I don't know about you, but such clutter in the crafting menus drives me insane. XP If you can't find the recipes once you've disabled the plugins, make sure they're set to appear in crafting menus in CCOR's MCM menu.

 

Also, is there a reason you have both WATER and Realistic Water Two intsalled? They make changes to very much the same set of things. The only thing I can think of RW2 having that WATER doesn't is the new sounds; everything else can be done with either mod, with slight differences that come down to personal opinion. Deciding between the two would help eliminate several plugins.

 

That's all I can see myself. Like I said, it's difficult for me to make connections with a LOOT sorted load order. You may want to look into merging some of your plugins as well. It's a little more involved than just point a click, but it's not at all complicated. Merging similar mods into a single plugin can help when you've got as extensive a load order as yours.

Edited April 18, 2014 by Hyacathusarullistad

[warriormantis]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions

[Serithi]

LOOT is the newest version of BOSS, so it shouldn't matter too much, but as Hya said it's also still in alpha so be aware. As a general rule of thumb though, you should never rely solely on BOSS or LOOT for setting your load order, because they can sometimes get stuff wrong. Run them at first to get most of the hard work done, and then manually comb through the load order to fix anything that's out of place.

 

Just off a quick glance of your modlist, you can afford to remove ShowRaceMenuAlternative. ShowRaceMenu is only a single console command away, it's just a matter of finding a spot with decent lighting, which isn't too hard to do.