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My computer has seen better days, and as of now, playing Skyrim results into about a good 45 minutes of that, then a close. Not a CTD, though. I've read that when Skyrim just closes without no error, it's because it's maxed out processing, and Windows automatically closes anything that goes above anything the system has.

 

Now generally, I'll delete a mod if I really don't need it, or if I know it's intensive, like COT, so the mods I have, I either really like, or I don't know how much power they consume so I don't know to kill them off. Any help on which mods can be dropped would be appreciated.

 

Gah, I have no idea how to quickly takes the mods I have and post them here. Any help there too would be appreciated.

 

 

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I think you may have some misinformation.

As I understand you, you are getting crashes (not sure why these are not CTD? Your game suddenly quits, thats a CTD, no error message required.) Or are you saying the screen freezes?

Sudden crashes can have a number of causes. The most common is file conflicts or corruption. Freezes are more likely to be related to memory allocation.

 

For crashes, you will want to run BOSS. (this is a program not a mod.)Then read the log and take care of all of the messages. This will include TES5Edit cleaning (use the link in the BOSS log to get the program and a tutorial on how to use it.)

This will also require you to properly place mods that BOSS does not recognize (leaving them at the end can cause problems as you describe.)

After doing all of that, if you still have problems, copy paste the text file of your BOSS log into a post (just open the BOSS GUI and select to have the log in text file format, not html.)

 

If you are wanting to check whether your computer resources are a problem, the easiest way to do that is do download the Skyrim Performance Monitor (again, this is a program, not a mod.) Run it while playing, and if you want help interpreting, post screenies or the data.

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I'll try cleaning my stuff. I've always used BOSS to organize my mods, and I've only got one error with it, though the file is disabled so that isn't it. There is a few warning about compatibility patches for Headbomb's, which is nonexistent. I do also have some unrecognized items, so I'll probably have to look into them for load order. My screen doesn't freeze, the game just closes completely. I'd say it were a conflict problem but it doesn't really seem to be specific, as in it's not really when I go a certain place or to a certain area, as far as I can tell. Just seems to be kinda timed based. I'm also running Razer Game Booster if that changes anything.

 

I remember cleaning with TES5 last time I played, but I didn't do it this time because I really didn't think it was significant, only affect smaller things like incorrect damage amounts or the like. I'll try TES5 again. I also suppose I'll give Skyrim Performance Monitor a try. What should I be looking for on that?

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I guess I'll just post the whole thing? Gonna try and fail miserably with spoiler tags so it isn't massive.

 

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* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.
* Note: A dynamically created plugin is installed. Please refer to the authors notes for more information on determining the best load order.
* Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11811") installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or an FNIS based mod.
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* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26230"))
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* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26230"))
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* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26230"))
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* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26230"))
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* Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch ("http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26230"))
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* Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
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* Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
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Edit:Man, I am horrible with spoilers.
Edit2: There we go.
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I'm having a similar problem, and made my own thread about it yesterday. Good luck.

 

As far as memory goes, I know asis will take more memory if you have mods that install extra npcs, as it has to do more work.

 

@brandan93 I've never heard of anyone using "stable ugrid to load" for game stability on the default level of ugridstoload. Does that actually do something?

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NMM has that thing where it checks for updates for mods. It's probably not actually doing what I think it is, but there's a pretty good amount of mods that haven't been updated. I mainly figured that NMM did get the updates but it didn't show, which like I said I'm probably misunderstanding. Updating them individually, along with cleaning with TES5, and uninstalling ELFX is a list of things to do, apparently.

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