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Issues and Suggestions
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VRDaphni
, Jun 23 2014 06:51 AM
47 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:51 AM
#2
Posted 23 June 2014 - 03:07 PM
Is it possible to provide a version without body change? To be honest I have refrained from using your follower mods because of body change because I want to budget script usage. Also, body change is essentially once and done spell and is kind of a spell clutter in my case. However, the works on this one is just fantastic and I really would like to use it. I hope you don't mind but my personal preference is the Selene Kate approach where support is included for the majors UNP and CBBE and others like Dream Girl is added only because it is truly a technically superior body.
#3
Posted 23 June 2014 - 04:38 PM
We also feel the same way about script usage, which is why we created the body changer this way. Other mods may use SKSE or heavy scripting, but we specifically decided not to do that in ours. It ONLY runs when you use the spell. It does NOT ever run in the background. Once the spell is done being cast, nothing stays in memory. The only other script you will see is the simple one to add the spell to your character, which also is not an ongoing script. If you look at the scripts folders, you can verify this for all of our follower mods. (If you are still concerned, you can simply delete the PEX file after you are done casting it, if you will never use it again).
Honestly, you will find that there is a LOT more scripting required for all custom voiced followers or any quest mods, which can have hundreds of scripts.
As far as the individual packages are concerned...We started with our first mod Lunari Warriors with individual options, like you mentioned. But it soon became apparent that it is overwhelming to support multiple bodies, and other options. It made updating incredibly difficult, and All-in-One package was a constant request from the community and forums. Many people also use one girl as CBBE and the others as UNP, to allow most compatibility with armors.
Over time, we have actually taken it much further instead of just switching bodies. For instance, with Selena, she has 2 body options, 4 hair options, regular / vampire options, with / without tattoo options, and that does not include Vahelmin. If we broke them into seperate downloads, that would require up to 32 options just for her. If we did that for every one of our previous mods, we would never have time or have gotten to the point of releasing these newer ones.
Honestly, you will find that there is a LOT more scripting required for all custom voiced followers or any quest mods, which can have hundreds of scripts.
As far as the individual packages are concerned...We started with our first mod Lunari Warriors with individual options, like you mentioned. But it soon became apparent that it is overwhelming to support multiple bodies, and other options. It made updating incredibly difficult, and All-in-One package was a constant request from the community and forums. Many people also use one girl as CBBE and the others as UNP, to allow most compatibility with armors.
Over time, we have actually taken it much further instead of just switching bodies. For instance, with Selena, she has 2 body options, 4 hair options, regular / vampire options, with / without tattoo options, and that does not include Vahelmin. If we broke them into seperate downloads, that would require up to 32 options just for her. If we did that for every one of our previous mods, we would never have time or have gotten to the point of releasing these newer ones.
Edited by VRApollo, 23 June 2014 - 04:39 PM.
#4
Posted 25 June 2014 - 10:03 AM
I have a problem using the in-game body change spell. As soon as I select "Body Type" from the menu, the "spell whirlwind" starts to appear, then the game crashes to desktop. I encountered the same problem in your wonderful "Aurora and Twilight" mod.
I am using the UNP Body and installed the standard "UNP and CBBE" package without BBP. I also enabled the XPMS skeleton, but still encountered the crashes.
On the other hand, the body change STONES for Hanali or the FR Girls works perfectly! The problem seems to be related to the spell itself.
Are there any known incompatibilities with AFT or FNIS?
I am using the UNP Body and installed the standard "UNP and CBBE" package without BBP. I also enabled the XPMS skeleton, but still encountered the crashes.
On the other hand, the body change STONES for Hanali or the FR Girls works perfectly! The problem seems to be related to the spell itself.
Are there any known incompatibilities with AFT or FNIS?
#5
Posted 25 June 2014 - 01:40 PM
Riften Misfits and Aurora and Twilight, Danariel etc work well with AFT and FNIS ,what your loadorder?
HothFollower.esp
Inigo.esp
Aela.esp
AuroraFollower.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
CompanionArissa.esp
CompanionValfar.esp
DanarielStormbow.esp
Frea.esp
Rayya.esp
RiftenMisfits.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
XavierNecromancerFollower.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Edited by TomTom37, 25 June 2014 - 02:08 PM.
#6
Posted 25 June 2014 - 03:45 PM
Thanks to your advice, I played around with the AFT again. While the load order was correct, I found that my version of AFT (I still use 1.55) was somehow corrupted. After a reset, the body change spell worked properly.
Thanks for the quick response! You create marvelous female followers! (endorsed!)
Thanks for the quick response! You create marvelous female followers! (endorsed!)
#7
Posted 25 June 2014 - 06:37 PM
I really enjoy your characters once I discovered them. Aurora/Twilight now are on just about every quest. (I can't get enough of their voice, it fits so perfectly with who they are.) And they are hard fighters also. Danariel joined me a week or so ago and I had not realized how much I had been missing the perfect archer. After a fight I don't have arrows sticking out of my head. I also fell in love with Lydia's voice on day one, what can I say. Great fun... Vilja, Lydia, and Danariel in the same room.
That all being said there are some problems. I saw Selena by VRDaphine and had to have her in most respects I've been glad I got her, except that she has trouble with commands... so do the others at times. I wanted to make some changes to her, I dismissed her, she said she was going home, she sat in a chair, I pulled up the changer it said I had to dismiss her. Went through the sequence again with the same out come. Had a similar problem with Twilight where I had to ask her to wait due to a problem another follower, when I said "let's go" she answered positively but wouldn't move, I had a hard time getting her out of there. So problems with the commands so far seem to be my problem.
That all being said there are some problems. I saw Selena by VRDaphine and had to have her in most respects I've been glad I got her, except that she has trouble with commands... so do the others at times. I wanted to make some changes to her, I dismissed her, she said she was going home, she sat in a chair, I pulled up the changer it said I had to dismiss her. Went through the sequence again with the same out come. Had a similar problem with Twilight where I had to ask her to wait due to a problem another follower, when I said "let's go" she answered positively but wouldn't move, I had a hard time getting her out of there. So problems with the commands so far seem to be my problem.
#8
Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:44 PM
Let me guess, you are using a UFO?
It would be nice if you wrote what mod you use to manage companions because it looks like this type of problem
It would be nice if you wrote what mod you use to manage companions because it looks like this type of problem
Edited by TomTom37, 25 June 2014 - 09:47 PM.
#9
Posted 25 June 2014 - 09:57 PM
That's easy... no mods. I use followers lite and followers relax and various follower and companion mods.
#10
Posted 26 June 2014 - 11:30 PM
For Aurora / Twilight, custom voiced followers need to be using the latest versions, or a patch in the case of EFF. More information about follower extender compatibility is on that forum page for that mod.
For all of our other followers, they are using standard voice types, which is what all of the follower extenders like AFT, EFF, and UFO use for their commands. We test with all three of those mods on different computers to ensure comparability. Many times though, you still need to use the wait/follow/dismiss commands from the mod extender most of the time. If you install and uninstall many different followers, then sometimes the follower extender does not reset the follower count correctly. You may need to follow their instructions to reset it, in that case.
For all of our other followers, they are using standard voice types, which is what all of the follower extenders like AFT, EFF, and UFO use for their commands. We test with all three of those mods on different computers to ensure comparability. Many times though, you still need to use the wait/follow/dismiss commands from the mod extender most of the time. If you install and uninstall many different followers, then sometimes the follower extender does not reset the follower count correctly. You may need to follow their instructions to reset it, in that case.
Edited by VRApollo, 26 June 2014 - 11:33 PM.



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