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[Muladhara86]

I've been working on this for months now.  I've narrowed my mod list down far more than I've ever wanted to.  I've followed STEP guides (STEP/REGS/MMO) as best as a could (w/ some omissions due to a weak computer, some due to personal taste), but seeing as how I'm not and cannot follow them to the exact letter, their compatibility patches aren't suited for me.  I keep trying new load orders, enabling and disabling mods in small batches.  I make TES5Edit merge patches & bashed patches for every build at the expense of the majority of my free time.

 

After all this, I'm still getting CTDs in exteriors, CTDs on dying & reloading, frozen load screens, infinite load screens, not to mention migraines.  Apparently load screen problems are due to asking the engine to load up too much at once, but I feel that I've pared back so much that the load should be light enough for my modest rig.  I've cleaned all my mods (except Skyrim.esm/unofficial patches) and I've used both BOSS & LOOT to order them.  I've tried looking at mods in small groups and all together in TES5Edit, and with all kinds of filters, but due to a lack of resources it's nearly all Greek to me.  I just feel like it shouldn't be this hard.

 

Can anyone offer some assistance?  Most of my mods are mainstream, tried-and-true mods; I feel like I'm only using a few obscure mods.  I checked today and they're all up to date.  Here's my current modlist:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

GeneralStores.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

TTR_Skill_Overhaul.esm

REGS - Resources.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Cutting Room Floor.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

Disenchanting.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

Dawnbreaker_PeacefulExplosion.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp

DragonBlood.esp

CookingAlchemy.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

Barenziah.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Beards.esp

RaceMenu.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Lively Followers.esp

Loadscreens Extended.esp

BFSEffects.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

ShockFrostFamiliars.esp

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

VLCollisionFix.esp

more plants all extra.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation DG.esp

homes remodeled.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

RealisticRoomRental.esp

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

AOS.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

WM Trap Fixes.esp

Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp

Actualize Apparel.esp

EnhancedGauldurAmuletENG.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_guard_helm.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp

Improved Potion Recipes.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

MERGED Locations.esp<spoiler>

CWIELnFXPatch.esp

Immersive Potions.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

MERGED TTRSO.esp

TradeBarter.esp

ThatsRacist.esp

ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp

ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp

RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

ESFCompanions.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

DF127MillwaterRetreat.esp

MERGED ETaC Patches.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

REGS - Cities.esp

RoyalElvenBow.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

CWINPCImprovements.esp

REGS - Better Docks.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp

High Level Enemies - SIC.esp

TheEvilMansionFE.esp

Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp

MERGED TPoS.esp 

Training Dummies XP.esp

RBB Long Boats.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

GuardAnimationsGDO.esp

CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp

imp_help_dbrn.esp

towConversation.esp

tpos_windhelm_a2.esp

BetterDGEntrance.esp

DF127MillwaterRetreatHFCOT.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

LessTediousAlchemy.esp

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

throneroom.esp

EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp

Nightingale Hall.esp

Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp

Better Vampires.esp

Predator Vision.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp

MERGED AOS2 Patches.esp

UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

ScopedBows.esp

skyforgedWeapons.esp

RBB Long Boats - REGS.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

FollowerNonara.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

ANSKA ENHANCED.esp

HothFollower.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

DragonmournInn.esp

Point The Way.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

TheDomain.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

MERGED Landscape.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

AdalMatar.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

RBB Row Boats.esp

RBB Long Boats - NSUtR.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

exploreskyrim.esp

CerwidenAppearancePatch.esp

MERGED Spells + BF.esp

LeazersOpenLock2_0.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

SlavePackRiekling.esp

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

tos_granitehall.esp

Provincial Courier Service.esp

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

MERGED Weather I.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

MERGED Weather II.esp

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

REGS Patch - CRF.esp

Snowbound Acres.esp

Alchemy Tomes.esp

CompanionArissa.esp

AK- Elder Scrolls Music.esp

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp

Del_ConditionalCombatMusic - Dragon Reserved FIXED.esp

itbeatsforher.esp

CuralmilsPhial.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp

BatTravel.esp

Thieves Guild Followers.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Gifts Of The Outsider.esp

Vampirelordroyal.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

FieldLab.esp

Training Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp

BVandRB_Formlist.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

portal2mod.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

RBB Row Boats - NSUtR.esp

RBB Large Boats.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp

Apple garden.esp

My Home Is Your Home.esp

RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp

RBB Row Boats - REGS.esp

spelleraser.esp

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

Conflict Resolution.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

(Note:  I've disabled SIC's additional spawns and respawn randomizer)

 

Here's a breakdown of my merged mods:

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Weather I & II: CoT + Patches, Expanded Snow Systems, Supreme Storms, Supreme Fog

 

Landscape: Moss Rocks, Ash Rocks, Red Mountain Erupts
 

Locations: Raven Rock Expanded, Understone Keep Fountains & Repair, Immersive Settlements - Orc Strongholds, Amber Guard, Better City Entrances, Hearthfire Chimneys for ETaC, Ongmund's Tomb, High Hrothgar Overhaul, Windcaller's Pass, Englemann's Rest
 

Spells + BF: Sharlikran's Babette's Feast, Unburdened - Feather Spell, Coldharbour Daedra, Waterwalking Tomes & Scrolls, Waterwalking Boots, Tentacle Grasp Enchantment, Better Soul Trap (all)
 

TPoS: Whiterun merged, Dawnstar, Solitude, Sons & Daughters of Skyrim

 

The "MERGED x Patches" should be self explainatory.

 

As for what's not included in the load order, there's not much (at least nothing of the same magnitude as the aMidianBorn pack):

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EotW Robes

Skill Interface Retexture

Imp. Gemstone Dragon Claws

Jewels of the Nord

More Realistic Hair

Superior Lore Friendly Hair

Grimoas Vampire Lord Vanilla Armor

Female Vampires have Fangs

Lockpick Scratched by Player

Finer Dust

Better Shaped Weapons

Nightengale Prime

White Phial Replacer

XCE+DG

CoverKhajiits

Drachis Argonians

Bigger Argonian Tails

Immersive Animations (just the core)

360 Walk/Run Plus

D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP

Faster Transform

Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors

Better Turn Animation

Running w/ Bow Replacer

Belt Fastened Quivers

Wold Map - Skyrim Hold Borders

Better Dialogue Controls

Better MessageBox Controls

Fuz Ro Doh

MFG Console

Categorized Favorites Menu

Sleep Menu Extender

KenMOD - Time on Loading Screen

 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  If any more information is needed I'll be happy to supply it.

Edited by Muladhara86, 21 July 2014 - 09:20 PM.

[Muladhara86]

I've started troubleshooting by making circuits of the cities.  Here are the problem areas I've discovered so far:

 

CTD's mid- Falkreath

FLS/ILS loading a save outside Falkreath

 

CTD's outside Windhelm

ILS loading a save outside Windhelm (near the hunter's camp)

 

FLS/ILS leaving Riften

FLS/ILS leaving Markarth

 

FLS/ILS loading a save outside Markarth

 

CTD near Winterhold, coming from Windhelm

 

ILS using the carriage

 

Freeze outside Solitude

ILS loading a save well outside Solitude

Edited by Muladhara86, 21 July 2014 - 03:01 AM.

[Shurah]

It looks like you don't use the Sheson memory patch.

 

Here the link:

 

http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/50305/?

 

For more information and how to install check this video:

[Muladhara86]

It looks like you don't use the Sheson memory patch.

 

I was under the impression that it was included in SKSE v1.7.0.  I use SKSE 1.7.1 and ENBoost.

Edited by Muladhara86, 21 July 2014 - 02:23 AM.

[Drax8]

Did you make sure to add these lines to your skse.ini?

 

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

You have to add these or it wont be of any use.

[Muladhara86]

Hmm.  I know I did at one point, but I've tried a lot of crazy troubleshooting since then.  Where is the SKSE.ini file located?  I don't see a "skse.ini" in the skyrim folder, nor in the SKSE .7zip.

Edited by Muladhara86, 21 July 2014 - 05:05 AM.

[Shurah]

So it confirms that you didn't install correctly the Sheson memory patch, the installation process is explained at the end of the video I linked above.

 

 

If you use SKSE 1.7.1, you Have to create a SKSE.ini by yourself, in the current folder :

 

steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE

 

Again, watch the video.

[Muladhara86]

If you use SKSE 1.7.1, you Have to create a SKSE.ini by yourself, in the current folder :

 

steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE

 

This.  I checked there and found the .ini.  Here are it's contents:

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[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

 

[Memory]

Enable=1

MemBlock1=512

MemBlock2=256

 

Per the video I changed the first value to 768.  Testing nao.

[Muladhara86]

Testing Results:

 

1) Loaded game outside of Riften, went in and out of Riften, ran super-speed to Windhelm and didn't crash on the bridge lookking out over the Argonian shacks, ran towards Winterhold and CTD'd.

 

2) Loaded game outside of Falkreath, ran through the middle of town a few times, ran out of town a ways and back through it, took a carriage to Solitude, and CTD'd during the carriage's loadscreen to Windhelm.

 

3) Loaded game inside Riverwood, ran SE across the river towards Anise's Cabin and CTD'd.

 

While increasing the size of the first memory block has helped, it's not the solution I was looking for, nor was I expecting it to be.  Things looked fine in the Memory Blocks Log and in Skyrim Performance Monitor; i.e. while my system is meager, I didn't seem to be experiencing any related problems.

Edited by Muladhara86, 21 July 2014 - 07:10 AM.

[Solozogy]

INI tweaks are imperative for stability. Try this IN tweak: http://www.nexusmods...im/mods/51033/?

Edited by Solozogy, 21 July 2014 - 08:22 AM.