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[thatonecoolkid]

I'm having trouble with Martigen's Monster Mod Hunting and Crafting plugin. I can grind the gemstones with the gems and gem dust plugin, and I can craft arrows and armor with the crafting plugin, but I read something about crushing other bones to get bonemeal. How do I do that? Shouldn't it just work the same way I crush the gems (clicking on them)? Yes, I am using FCOM, so I'm aware there may be weird things going on, but any fix to this would be great. Load order was done with BOSS, so I'm assuming it's correct.

I could only find one other topic with somebody who had this problem. Unfortunately, the answerer posted "This has already been asked. Use the search function" or something, and provided link to an old, no-longer-existing page.

[Tomlong54210]

Please, post your load order.

[Fonger]

mechanically

you crush bones by having a mortar and pestle in your inventory and clicking on the bones

or by dropping the bones into a bone grinder in the mages' guild (looks like an ayleid container)

[thatonecoolkid]

Right right. Here's the load order:

Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
TamrielTravellers.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
Living Economy.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
ExnemRuneskulls.esp
FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp
TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp
TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp
ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
spelliconreplace.esp
OOO-Respawn_Week.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

@ Fonger:
I do have a mortar and pestle, and I am able to crush gemstones and silver nuggets that I melted down. But clicking on the bones just doesn't do anything when I try.

[Tomlong54210]

Could you please repost the list through Wrye Bash? I want to see the version numbers. Also, you can replace the OOO Respawn Week problem with one of the Bashed Patch tweaks. I think it is under Tweak Assorted.

[thatonecoolkid]

The Wrye Bash list then:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 Living Economy.esp
13 Living Economy - Items.esp
14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
15 DLCHorseArmor.esp
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19 DLCSpellTomes.esp
1A DLCThievesDen.esp
1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp
1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
35 DLCFrostcrag.esp
36 Knights.esp
37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3C spelliconreplace.esp
3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]
3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

[Tomlong54210]

The Wrye Bash list then:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 Living Economy.esp
13 Living Economy - Items.esp
14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
15 DLCHorseArmor.esp
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19 DLCSpellTomes.esp
1A DLCThievesDen.esp
1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp
1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
35 DLCFrostcrag.esp
36 Knights.esp
37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3C spelliconreplace.esp
3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]
3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

Yes, however, the MMM 3.7b3 update requires a clean install of MMM, and you have to upgrade to the latest version of FCOM and OOO as well.

FCOM Installation Guide - http://tesivpositive...tallation_guide <-- Just follow this.

Also, replace the OOO-Respawn plugin with the corresponding Bashed Patch tweak.
The Bashed Patch - http://tesivpositive...ge=bashed_patch <-- I think that the respawn option is under Tweak Settings


Edit: If your CPU starts dying, drop Additional NPC Vars. Remember to drop Exnem's Runeskulls for MMM's Diverse Runeskulls OOO Loot add-on when you upgrade.

[thatonecoolkid]

The Wrye Bash list then:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
09 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0A Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0B Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0C Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
0E Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
0F FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
10 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 Living Economy.esp
13 Living Economy - Items.esp
14 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
15 DLCHorseArmor.esp
16 DLCOrrery.esp
17 DLCVileLair.esp
18 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
19 DLCSpellTomes.esp
1A DLCThievesDen.esp
1B ExnemRuneskulls.esp
1C FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
20 FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
21 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
22 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33]
24 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
25 Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
26 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
27 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
28 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
29 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
30 TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp [Version 1.39c]
31 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
32 ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
33 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
34 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
35 DLCFrostcrag.esp
36 Knights.esp
37 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9]
38 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
39 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3A Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3B Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3C spelliconreplace.esp
3D OOO-Respawn_Week.esp [Version 1.33]
3E Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I haven't noticed a respawn problem (probably because my new game is only 5 game hours in). I'll look up the tweak; thanks for the heads up.

3.7b3 is the latest of MMM, right?

Yes, however, the MMM 3.7b3 update requires a clean install of MMM, and you have to upgrade to the latest version of FCOM and OOO as well.

FCOM Installation Guide - http://tesivpositive...tallation_guide <-- Just follow this.

Also, replace the OOO-Respawn plugin with the corresponding Bashed Patch tweak.
The Bashed Patch - http://tesivpositive...ge=bashed_patch <-- I think that the respawn option is under Tweak Settings


Edit: If your CPU starts dying, drop Additional NPC Vars. Remember to drop Exnem's Runeskulls for MMM's Diverse Runeskulls OOO Loot add-on when you upgrade.

Ok, so when I followed the instructions on FCOM's site (devnull.sweetdanger.net/convergence):

# Download MMM 3.5.5 OMOD or FULL package extract the 'Meshes,' Sound,' and 'Textures' folders into your "Data" folder. Do NOT use any of the ESMs/ESPs from this version!
# Download MMM 3.7 BETA and extract the 'Meshes,' Sound,' and 'Textures' folders into your "Data" folder (overwrite, if necessary) together with Mart's Monster Mod.esm

Of course, the new beta does not use separate files, but a .bsa. So, it wasn't until after I noticed green corpses caused by the missing blood textures that I realized I needed the new .bsa. I didn't remove the old MMM files because I thought the FCOM instructions still wanted me to use them. How do I make sure I have them all removed correctly so I've got a "clean install" of MMM?

On your other comments, I'm pretty sure I've got the latest OOO and FCOM. As far as I know, the latest OOO is 1.34 beta and the latest FCOM is 0.9.9 beta, no? It shows 1.33 for OOO but I did the update to 1.34 manually by just replacing the old files with newer versions. So, basically, I just installed FCOM a couple days ago and I thought I started with everything up to date already. What do I have that is out of date?

Thanks very much for all your help. I just need a bit more clarification.

[Tomlong54210]

The official FCOM docs are outdated, which I why I wrote the guide I linked. It would walk you through that. All you have to do to uninstall MMM is deactivate the OMOD. The FCOM instructions for MMM 3.7 are to completely remove older versions of MMM. Do you have UFCOM too? Just follow the instructions with that guide, and please do not use manual installation as it will make cleaning up and upgrading much messier.

Could you post your load order so that I may check the current one? Please, use spoiler tags this time. [spoiler][/spoiler

[thatonecoolkid]

Could you post your load order so that I may check the current one? Please, use spoiler tags this time.

Alright, alright. Followed your guide, so here's the brand new load order:

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]
06 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]
07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.7]
08 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]
09 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
10 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 Living Economy.esp
12 Living Economy - Items.esp
13 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
14 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]
15 DLCHorseArmor.esp
16 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
17 DLCOrrery.esp
18 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
19 DLCVileLair.esp
1A DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1B DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1C DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
1D DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
1E DLCThievesDen.esp
1F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
20 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
21 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
22 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
23 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]
24 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
25 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]
26 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
27 OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp [Version 1.33]
++ OMOBS.esp [Version 1.0]
++ OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 1.0]
28 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
29 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2A Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2B Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2E Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
2F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]
30 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp [Version 1.39c]
++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
31 Geomancy & Gem Dust OOO.esp
32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
34 DLCFrostcrag.esp
35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
36 Knights.esp
37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
38 TOTF.esp
39 The Lost Spires.esp
3A Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
3B Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3C Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
3D P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]
3E spelliconreplace.esp
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
3F Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
40 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Is that all good now?