CTD on the road to Riverwood

[Eupraxia]

In every install of my modded Skyrim game I get crashes at certain locations, one of the most common ones being on the road outside Riverwood, just before reaching the Standing Stones. I have a quite heavily modded game with +150 mod, I always make sure that my mods and drivers are up to date, and I also clean my ESM's and ESP's with TES5Edit. If anyone would take the time to help me with this issue I would greatly appreciate it.

[gromulos]

try this mini guide I have developed over time, works for a LOT of people and it's really easy :smile:

 

1) You need to run LOOT, Wrye Bash and TES5Edit, in that order

 

Loot is not 100% and if that is all you're using you're going to have many problems as you progress through your play through, BOSS is no longer being supported and thus is out of date with newer mods.

 

1.5 ) with many mods loaded, you should be using 2 other programs ( Wrye Bash and TES5Edit ), when you run Wrye Bash if any checkmarks are not green, those mods are causing problems in your game, you make them turn green by dragging them up or down in your load order in wrye bash till they do turn green, ok that's one problem

 

2) with many mods loaded into your game you HAVE to have either a merged patch or bashed patch file, once again Wrye Bash is your friend because it will automatically make you a bashed patch file when it loads your mods. A bashed patch file makes all your weapon and armor and other mods play nice together, it also keeps track of leveled lists in the game and makes them work better together also. One other thing, make sure you enable ( check mark ) the bashed patch Wrye Bash makes, then right click it and choose rebuild patch as the one Wrye Bash makes is empty, which should always be last in your load order unless you're using an ENB or the Reproccer. DO NOT USE A MERGED PATCH AND A BASHED PATCH AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OR THE OTHER.

 

3) TES5EDIT is used to do 2 things,

 

(A) verify that your load order is not missing any files that your mods need and

 

(B) verify that no primary files are being loaded after secondary files. When you run TES5EDIT it will throw up an error box and the error will be displayed at the bottom of the right pane / panel. All you have to do is read what it says and it will tell you exactly how to fix the problem in Wrye Bash. Yes, you can open Wrye Bash while TES5EDIT is open so you don't even have to write down what the error is :smile:

 

Please remember that while LOOT is a great program it is NOT 100 %

 

- concerning what the red, orange, and green check marks mean

Red means a missing master file - basically a guaranteed CTD on startup. Orange means that some ESP has requested its master files in an order that is different to the the order that you currently have them in. Orange mods are arguably more dangerous, because you won't necessarily get an immediate CTD every time, so you may be lulled into a false sense of security, whereas in reality you have an unstable load order.

Clicking on the orange/red mods will show you what masters they have, and what order they want them in. From here on in, it becomes like a puzzle: you need to manually drag and drop the various masters in your load order until their order is harmonious ( IE:. you've managed to provide the desired order of master files for every single ESP in your list simultaneously ) and all of your oranges have disappeared. If it's not possible to eliminate all orange mods, you may need to ditch one or two mods/patches.

 

All the files in here are in my siggy, just run them in the order I have them listed

 

Let me know if you need any more help :smile:

[Eupraxia]

Thank you Gromulos i will definitely follow your advice and see if it helps :blush:

[Eupraxia]

It seems SPERG cant be manually edited to load before Update.esm without causing the savegame files to be orange. :sad:

[bojanni]

Yeah, that's because SPERG shouldn't be loaded before update.esm. The advise of dragging your mods around in Wrye Bash is debatable. Especially when a mod author has his master files (the files his mod relies on) mixed up. It would be impossible to get it green. Just let LOOT sort your files you should be good. If you want to really have everything green in Wrye Bash you can download TeS5EDIT and sort the masters of the delinquent mod.

[gromulos]

if you follow my guide like I have it layed out you shouldn't have any problems, numerous other people are telling me that my guide has not only fixed thier problems, but also fixed thier problems where other people coudln't. It's fast, easy, simple to understand and MANY people have found it to work :)

 

The reason why you want to drag your mods where they should be is outlined where I address what the check marks mean, that part wasn't even from me, that was from another forum person who explained it to someone else, I just grabbed it because it helps people understand Wrye Bash better :)

[Eupraxia]

Did as you instructed Gromulos, but still get CTD, specially on the road from Riverwood. :(

[bojanni]

Do you use any memory tweaks like the one built in the latest SKSE version, or the memory tweaks of an ENB? Also: what is your load order and your pc specs?

[gromulos]

does EVERY mod in Wrye Bash have a green check mark?

[Eupraxia]

I use the latest SKSE version with the memory patch.

Specs: Intel i7 3770, GTX 770, 8Gb Corsair 1666mhz, Corsair SSD 110Gb and Windows 7 Ultimate x64