CTD when opening menus

[SmittyWerbenyegermanjenson]

My game inconsistently crashes when opening any type of menu. I'd say about 50% of the time, I'm able to open a menu fine, but in the other 50% the game will crash. This can be any menu such as pause, favorites, inventory, magic, talking to a merchant or NPC, using a smelter, etc.

I've tried opening SL's .ini file and setting it to "true" but now I just freeze instead of CTD.

My load order

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

RaceCompatibility.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

MFVM.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

SK TheEyesOfBeauty.esm=1

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1

MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1

HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp=1

Immersive Battles.esp=1

Immersive Brigands.esp=1

Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1

Immersive Dragonborn.esp=1

Immersive Factions.esp=1

Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1

Immersive Patrols.esp=1

Immersive Travelers.esp=1

Immersive Werewolves.esp=1

Oblivious Horses.esp=1

Populated Forts Towers Places.esp=1

Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

Skyforge_Plus v3.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=1

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

ADEC_DragonbornArmors.esp=1

LeftHandRings.esp=1

LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1

MaddBag.esp=1

Mini Vamps.esp=1

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1

UNPNaughtyRemodel.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=1

Book Covers Dragonborn.esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp=1

Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp=1

DeadlierPosion.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

ImmersiveFP.esp=1

Killable Children.esp=1

Proper Aiming.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1

UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp=1

DawnofWindhelm.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1

DibellasCompulsion-NudeSpell-1-1.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1

balanceddestructionv4.esp=1

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

PTAlchemyFoodOverhaul.esp=1

PTAlchemyFoodOverhaul_BetterSorting.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_ONLY.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_ONLY_BetterSorting.esp=1

PTFoodOverhaul_ONLY.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1

More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

Monli.esp=1

Aela.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1

Frea.esp=1

Followers_StealthKills.esp=1

StealthPerksForFollowers - DG and DB compatable.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

ElderOutfit.esp=1

Clean Invisibility Effects plus Eyes Fix.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

WATER DB.esp=1

DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_SkillRate_1_0.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_SkillRate_0_33.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_SkillRate_0_75.esp=1

PTAlchemyOverhaul_SkillRate_0_5.esp=1

SKSE Hotkeys.esp=1

InstantDeathTome.esp=1

PickDefaultFollowerArmor.esp=1

JKs Whiterun DofW Comp.esp=1

FNISSexyMove.esp=1

JKs Markarth.esp=1

DawnofSolitude.esp=1

JKs Solitude.esp=1

Extended UI.esp=1

AHZmoreHUD.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

Signs_of_Skyrim.esp=1

JKs Windhelm DoW comp.esp=1

DarkReplacer.esp=1

SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB.esp=1

SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF.esp=1

SK Vanilla Child Replacer.esp=1

SK ApachiiHair.esp=1

Mage-Friendly Dragon Priest Masks.esp=1

Edited October 25, 2014 by SmittyWerbenyegermanjenson

[gromulos]

I see 2 things right off the bat that are causing your problems

 

1) No bashed patch or merged patch file, see below

 

2) SKYUI is a program that lets you manage menu's, thus it should be loaded 2nd to last with your bashed or merged patch being the last file loaded, see below

 

try this mini guide I have developed over time, works for a LOT of people and it's really easy :smile:

 

1) You need to run LOOT, Wrye Bash and TES5Edit, in that order

 

Loot is not 100% and if that is all you're using you're going to have many problems as you progress through your play through, BOSS is no longer being supported and thus is out of date with newer mods.

 

1.5 ) with many mods loaded, you should be using 2 other programs ( Wrye Bash and TES5Edit ), when you run Wrye Bash if any checkmarks are not green, those mods are causing problems in your game, you make them turn green by dragging them up or down in your load order in wrye bash till they do turn green, ok that's one problem

 

2) with many mods loaded into your game you HAVE to have either a merged patch or bashed patch file, once again Wrye Bash is your friend because it will automatically make you a bashed patch file when it loads your mods. A bashed patch file makes all your weapon and armor and other mods play nice together, it also keeps track of leveled lists in the game and makes them work better together also. One other thing, make sure you enable ( check mark ) the bashed patch Wrye Bash makes, then right click it and choose rebuild patch as the one Wrye Bash makes is empty, which should always be last in your load order unless you're using an ENB or the Reproccer. DO NOT USE A MERGED PATCH AND A BASHED PATCH AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OR THE OTHER.

 

3) TES5EDIT is used to do 2 things,

 

(A) verify that your load order is not missing any files that your mods need and

 

(B) verify that no primary files are being loaded after secondary files. When you run TES5EDIT it will throw up an error box and the error will be displayed at the bottom of the right pane / panel. All you have to do is read what it says and it will tell you exactly how to fix the problem in Wrye Bash. Yes, you can open Wrye Bash while TES5EDIT is open so you don't even have to write down what the error is :smile:

 

Please remember that while LOOT is a great program it is NOT 100 %

 

- concerning what the red, orange, and green check marks mean

Red means a missing master file - basically a guaranteed CTD on startup. Orange means that some ESP has requested its master files in an order that is different to the the order that you currently have them in. Orange mods are arguably more dangerous, because you won't necessarily get an immediate CTD every time, so you may be lulled into a false sense of security, whereas in reality you have an unstable load order.

Clicking on the orange/red mods will show you what masters they have, and what order they want them in. From here on in, it becomes like a puzzle: you need to manually drag and drop the various masters in your load order until their order is harmonious ( IE:. you've managed to provide the desired order of master files for every single ESP in your list simultaneously ) and all of your oranges have disappeared. If it's not possible to eliminate all orange mods, you may need to ditch one or two mods/patches.

 

All the files in here are in my siggy, just run them in the order I have them listed

 

Let me know if you need any more help :smile: