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The saved game still wont load (Even the vanilla saves). I t always says it relies on missing content even though I did not remove any mods. I checked the mods in the save via wrye bash and all of the ones there are included. What do the colour of my saves mean (some are red some pink/orange and some green)


The warning that the save game relies on missing content is normal behaviour when you load a save that was made with mods that you no longer have installed -- the game should still load, so the warning is alright to ignore. You say you didn't remove any mods -- your save game colours suggest: Red (missing masters), orange (some mods have different load order, which is not a problem), green (out of sync. Right click/load masters. This tends to have a group action, so use this with caution.) The ideal colour should be purple.

On the save game that you are trying to load, right click and choose 'Diff masters'. This will tell you which masters are missing and any that have been added since the save.

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 Thanks for the info but now my saves load a little further then stops and after 10-15 minutes oblivion crashes during the loading. If I open task manager it says it stopped responding.

Load order from wrye bash

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Going by your previous mod list and this latest one, you appear to have added to your mods, even though your issues have not been resolved. Don't you think it would be a good idea to resolve your issues before adding more mods?

You also didn't post your results of using the Diff Masters in Wrye Bash.

The first thing I notice is that you have 5 mods unrecognized by BOSS:
EA The Loo.esp
EB Reaper's Adjustable Oil Lamp.esp
EC The Amulet of Soul.esp
ED PoisonMachine.esp [Version 1.25]
EE Arena Expansion.esp

You should temporarily disable/uninstall these mods, run BOSS, rebuild your Bashed patch and see if that helps.



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Those unidentified ones have  never given me problems (except amulet of soul since it turns you into a ghost and makes your fatigue go to zero and with realistic fatigue my PC faints before I can cast a spell to return to his body so he ends up dying.)

The rest I already had, but uninstalled  with OBMM because wrye bash kept disabling them saying something about overloaded lists. Is there I way to prevent this other than the bashed patch?

Should I 'Load Masters"? All my saves had been backed up prior to installing wrye bash
Sorry about the above post (my browser was acting up)

Diff masters




Removed Masters (Save 1071 - Solomon Krulother - The West Weald, Level 15, Playing Time 79.34.04.ess):
•  bnmDLTIC-1-6.esp

•  nmDLTIC-1-6.esp

•  bDLTIC-1-6.esp

•  DLTIC-1-6.esp

•  moDem's City Life.esp

•  TFF_FantasyFigures_Base.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp

•  Ayleid Respawn v1.0.esp

 


Added Masters (Active Masters):
•  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

•  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

•  TamrielTravellers.esm

•  FCOM_Convergence.esm

•  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

•  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

•  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

•  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

•  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

•  P1DseeYouSleep - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp

•  Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

•  FCOM_Convergence.esp

•  FCOM_RealSwords.esp

•  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp

•  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

•  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp

•  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp

•  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp

•  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp

•  FCOM_Archery.esp

•  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp

•  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp

•  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp

•  mystery of mausoleum.esp

•  FCOM_OMG.esp

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First of all, never ever add more mods when you are already experiencing the sort of problems you have, with the exception of patches or utilities specifically designed to help resolve the problems. Doing so is simply asking for more headaches.

If Wrye Bash is warning your about overloaded lists you can split your bash patches into categories, such as one for early patches (UOP etc), one for overhauls, one for quests, etc. -- see the Wrye Bash page for more info. But please do take note on the instructions, and don't be tempted to 'suck it and see', or you'll be giving yourself extra grief.

ALWAYS get into the habit, when you change your mod list in ANY way, of:
1) READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!
2) Run BOSS
3) Rebuild your bashed patch/es, remembering to go through the lists and remove or add as appropriate.
The above cannot be overstated in a mod list such as yours.

Do not load masters until you have this issue resolved. The Diff Masters is typical of mods being uninstalled and reinstalled between saves -- hit & miss. Please uninstall/disable those mentioned mods, or at least place them high up the list, and rebuild your patch/es, remembering to go through each bash option.

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I have gone over the bashed patch section on wrye bash site and have not found anything on splitting  bashed patches into categories. I saw stuff about using a different patch for different profiles. Please can you tell me how to do it or which section it is under on the site.

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I have gone over the bashed patch section on wrye bash site and have not found anything on splitting bashed patches into categories. I saw stuff about using a different patch for different profiles. Please can you tell me how to do it or which section it is under on the site.


Alas, I confess that I thought the information was available on the WryeBash site. After further checking I find that it is possible but is not advisable, in fact should not be done, except by experienced users, so I sincerely apologise for that and suggest you concentrate on your single bashed patch.

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I have re enabled the removed masters and deactivated the added masters. Now my animals are all green (I believe I can fix this) Please can you tell me how to install FCOM and Francesco's mods (the ones I deactivated) or were in my previous load order but are no longer there. It seems even after following the FCOM instructions I cant get FCOM MMM OOO and Francesco's stuff working together.

New Load order from wrye bash (after running BOSS)

I also want to add storms and sounds, alluring potions, let the people drink

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You cannot get FCOM MMM and OOO to work together because you do not have a Bashed Patch -- FCOM requires a bashed patch.




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