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[cryocry]

More likely an elf had a thing for her. She was the slave, remember.

Of course, being forced upon by a master, then having the child of that union taken away from her could have helped fuel the fire of rebellion in her heart.

... Just one question: How did Mankar Camoran get a divine artifact, because the only one that Jauffre/Martin say is the Armor of Tiber Septim. And, the Divines don't create artifacts, but Talos had that armor when he was mortal.

Let's see: a worshipper and supplicant of a Daedric lord wants to establish a kingdom within a pocket of the Daedric realm. Maybe said Daedric lord lent a helping hand.

Now, an enemy of said supplicant and said lord may want to give chase and enter the selfsame realm. No help from the dudes in question, so perhaps our hero can seek help from another source on high...

Huh? I don't get it. Please say what's after high...

[Rhydderch Hael]

A little help from 'on high'.

*looks up*

You know, something— divine.

[cryocry]

A little help from 'on high'.

*looks up*

You know, something— divine.

You're very confusing. Please say in ENGLISH, not confuse tongue.




Oh! Oh oh oh oh oh! It's something divine. And Mehrunes Dagon assists Mankar Camoran in creating it, so Mehrunes Dagon makes it, but requires a password (Daedric and Divine artifacts, a great Welkynd Stone, and a Great Sigil Stone). So, no one other than the Mythic Dawn and Daedra can enter w/o them. So, you have to get all of those. Is that what you're saying?

[Vagrant0]

I think all that was needed was someone to draw that little design on the floor and stand at the tip to bind themselves. Blood of Daedra, was just to send you on a silly mission and distract you with the tough decision of what artifact you want to give up. Blood of the Divine was just their way of telling you to go and clean out a crypt they've been too lazy to deal with. Greater Welkynd stone was because it looks pretty. Greater Sigil Stone was just because the blades were hoping that in the destruction of Bruma they could help themselves to some of the Akaviri equipment they love so much.

When you look at it like that, Mankar didn't need any help, and you were just being kept busy while they were deciding what to take from Bruma first. On the plus side, it makes you feel important. When you look at it, most quests could be looked at like this. It's just stuff they don't feel like doing themselves, or something to keep you or other people distracted from what's really happening.

[cryocry]

I think all that was needed was someone to draw that little design on the floor and stand at the tip to bind themselves. Blood of Daedra, was just to send you on a silly mission and distract you with the tough decision of what artifact you want to give up. Blood of the Divine was just their way of telling you to go and clean out a crypt they've been too lazy to deal with. Greater Welkynd stone was because it looks pretty. Greater Sigil Stone was just because the blades were hoping that in the destruction of Bruma they could help themselves to some of the Akaviri equipment they love so much.

When you look at it like that, Mankar didn't need any help, and you were just being kept busy while they were deciding what to take from Bruma first. On the plus side, it makes you feel important. When you look at it, most quests could be looked at like this. It's just stuff they don't feel like doing themselves, or something to keep you or other people distracted from what's really happening.

If you remember, Martin used the Great Stones on the sides, and they only had you get the artifacts to figure out what to do with them when you don't have them, and the Blades want the armor of tiber septim to hide somewhere and worship it secretly. The armor Martin wears is Emporer's Armor, because after doing some searching in the CS while making a cheater's mod for myself, I noticed that there is un-playable emporers armor, and made that playable as well as Watch and Palace armor. The Great Stones are the real things that are used to open the gate. I bet Martin and Jauffre were confused, so they sent you/me/everyone else to get that stuff and give it to them, which is a plus for them, and you're going around to four places that are far away from other places to get stuff that only half they'll need. I'm very dissapointed in you, Martin .

[Vagrant0]

If you remember, Martin used the Great Stones on the sides...

You weren't watching closely, when the big portal thing opens up Belisarius and Roliand run in and grab them while your distracted by the big flashy. Then while you're doing your thing in paradise they head over to Bruma and pawn them off on the local fence. Someone has to pay for the floor to be fixed. Seriously, pay attention next time.

[cryocry]

If you remember, Martin used the Great Stones on the sides...

You weren't watching closely, when the big portal thing opens up Belisarius and Roliand run in and grab them while your distracted by the big flashy. Then while you're doing your thing in paradise they head over to Bruma and pawn them off on the local fence. Someone has to pay for the floor to be fixed. Seriously, pay attention next time.

Just why then can't I buy it from the fence, then? Besides, if YOU'D remember, they were worthless. And I was looking around, and didn't see Belisarius and Roliand take it one the second time when I was looking around.

[Vagrant0]

Just why then can't I buy it from the fence, then? Besides, if YOU'D remember, they were worthless. And I was looking around, and didn't see Belisarius and Roliand take it one the second time when I was looking around.

Always have to shoot down my theories huh?

[cryocry]

Just why then can't I buy it from the fence, then? Besides, if YOU'D remember, they were worthless. And I was looking around, and didn't see Belisarius and Roliand take it one the second time when I was looking around.

Always have to shoot down my theories huh?

Yeah, I just can't help it . I don't know where you got that, though, because those stones are needed to keep the gate open. I guess they fence 'em to a fence in Skyrim, though.

[farlin]

Magistrates can never replace an emperor. I would give them 2 months.

Two words: Akaviri Potentates (apparently, the one word word Lynda Carter cannot pronounce correctly )

They lasted a fair longer than two months and, by some indications, they weren't even human!

Uhhhhh... I said GET THE AMULET, didn't I? Then he lights the Dragonfires, then he's the emporer, so you don't have to waste a perfectly good daedric artifact for that one quest.

You— haven't actually played the game, have you? Your order of events makes no truthful sense. You need to surrender a Daedric artifact, scrounge around for the blood of a Divine, and snag the big honkin' Sigil Stone in order to make chase of Mankar Camoran and get the bloody Amulet back! Without which, of course, Martin may just as well start selling hot cross buns for the Daedric Wars Widows' Fund, an everlasting charity for an everlasting conflict.

No, no, no, no. Let me lay it out for you:
1) Escape from prison with the Amulet of Kings, Uriel Septim gets assassinated
2)Bring the amulet to Jauffre
3)get Martin
4)do all that stuff until you get the part where you have to go to Lake Arrius Caverns
5)SHOOT MANKAR CAMOREN WITH AN ARROW OR ON TARGET SPELL AND TAKE THE AMULET OF KINGS OFF HIS CORPSE
6) destroy all who appose the empire in the caverns
7)take the Amulet to Martin
8)take him to the Imperial City, Temple District so he can light the Dragonfires
9)Martin gets a queen and does her hard to get his heirs, maybe pays a hooker
THE END


Oh yeah, I believe it was cleaned after Akatosh ripped his heart out (...get the bloody amulet back...)

And what are hot cross buns? Are they some sort of bun baked on hot days on railroad tracks? And the dremora "widows" would come in Dremora boots, greaves, cuirass, perhaps gauntlets, a helmet, and a shield. Was that intended as a joke? But I need to have the first two questions answered.

And about the Akaviri Potentates...
From what I read in the series about the 2980(?) year of the first era, they're not very trustworthy! They paid the Morag Tong to kill Remen III!

I tried shooting him. It didn't work. he has too much health, and immediatly retreated into his paradise (which, by the way, I found quite enjoyable, barring the atronachs.)