Fizzygswag Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) My Skyrim CTD on launch when launched from the SKSE application. However when I launch it from Steam, it works just fine. Im 99.9% sure I installed it correctly! I have disabled all my mods as well. EDIT: Issue has now been fixed using TESVEdit. However, now the game CTDs when I arrive at the opening sequence. Must be some mod conflicts I have? Here is the BOSS log: Recognized Plugins:These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.7 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Falskaar.esm Version 1.1.4 ActiveApachiiHair.esm Version 1.4 ActiveETaC - RESOURCES.esm ActiveOmegared99-Compilation.esm ActiveRiverHelm.esm Version 2.6 ActiveWarning: This file contains 50 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.SexLab.esm Version 1.59b ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm Activebrawlbug-plugin.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version, Brawl Bugs CE.Supreme Fog.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveCutting Room Floor.esp Version 1.1 ActiveCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp ActiveChange Spouse Outfits.esp ActiveMore Craftables.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Prides of Skyrim.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 94 ITM, 40 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp Version 0.93 ActiveSkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp ActiveChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp Version 4.1 ActiveLessIntrusiveHUD.esp Version 1.1 ActiveTKDodge.esp ActiveCraftable Artifacts.esp ActiveFlameAtronachArmor.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEFullBootForKKSA.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Version 7.1 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}NightsWatchArmor.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp ActiveRanger's Cape.esp ActiveShieldsofSkyrimLists.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SilverDragonArmor.esp ActiveTheCallOfTheNorth.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unexpected Blades.esp ActiveImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp ActiveLock Overhaul.esp ActiveSkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Requires: Dawnguard DLC (SkyRe 0.99.17+)Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp ActiveSkyRe_StandingStones.esp ActiveUniqueWeaponsRedone.esp Activeancient tower.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 12 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.Breezehome Estate.esp ActiveCornerofTheSkyrim.esp ActiveCrimsonQuest2.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Daggercross_Alley.esp ActiveImmersive Orc Strongholds.esp ActiveImmersive Whiterun.esp Activequest into the depths.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveLC_CastleInvasion.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 37 ITM, 27 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Warning: This file contains 7 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.PiratesofthePacific.esp ActiveRayeksEnd.esp ActiveSharks.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 91 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp ActiveRequires: CBBEThe McMiller Chronicles.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 32 ITM, 13 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Valuungrann.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Headtracking.esp ActiveSexLab Romance.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp Version 14950 ActiveNote: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.wizDynamicThings.esp ActiveETaC - Complete.esp ActiveETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp ActiveHelgen Reborn.esp Version 105.3 ActivePopulated Cities Towns Villages.esp Activenaturalisticwerewolf.esp ActiveShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Version 9 Active3DNPC.esp Version 3.08 ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Version 1.2i ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ApachiiHairStyles.esp ActiveApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp ActiveKate.esp ActiveNatalie - Healer Follower.esp ActiveFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ActiveSkyrim Unbound.esp Activeethereal_elven_overhaul.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp ActiveUnrecgonized Plugins:Pureweather.esp ActiveIsharas_KeyRing.esp ActiveWintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp ActiveSkyrim Radioactive.esp ActiveTes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp Activefortdarkwaterbyadam.esp ActiveMoonAndStar_MAS.esp ActiveHidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed.esp ActiveJKs Windhelm.esp Version 1.2b ActiveDawnofRiften.esp ActiveUniqueBorderGates-All.esp ActiveSMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp ActiveNorthernCardinal.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols II.esp ActiveOverflowingEnchant.esp ActiveIgnatius.esp Activeskycity.esp ActiveCompanionArissa.esp ActiveNorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp ActiveMost.esp ActiveSKSE Plugins:SKSE Version: 0.1.7.1hdtPhysicsExtensions.dllMfgConsole.dllSexLabUtil.dllSKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.2.0SKSE_EnhancedCamera.dllStorageUtil.dlltkplugin.dll Edited November 24, 2014 by Fizzygswag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Did you read the log?When a messages says REQUIRES that is what it means - and the game may crash without it.there is also an incompatible error that may cause crashesSo when a mod says Requires CBBE - it was not found in the load orderThen there are a bunch of unrecognized mods that BOSS cannot do anything withBOSS is obsolete and has been replaced with LOOT - http://loot.github.io/ Dirty edits and navmesh problems may or may not cause a crash - but should be fixed with Tes5edit Then there are things like thisTropical Skyrim.esp Version 1.0 ActiveNote: Other environmental mods may be incompatible. See the incompatibility notes for general advice.And way down in the list another weather modPureweather.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzygswag Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Did you read the log?When a messages says REQUIRES that is what it means - and the game may crash without it.there is also an incompatible error that may cause crashesSo when a mod says Requires CBBE - it was not found in the load orderThen there are a bunch of unrecognized mods that BOSS cannot do anything withBOSS is obsolete and has been replaced with LOOT - http://loot.github.io/ Dirty edits and navmesh problems may or may not cause a crash - but should be fixed with Tes5edit Then there are things like thisTropical Skyrim.esp Version 1.0 ActiveNote: Other environmental mods may be incompatible. See the incompatibility notes for general advice.And way down in the list another weather modPureweather.esp Active Pureweather is NOT causing my crashes. I have completely disabled Tropical Skyrim from my load order as I thought maybe it was "too much" for my rig combined with my ENB (which I have also uninstalled completely), to no avail. As far as using TESVEdit to edit dirty edits and navmesh problems, Im a bit confused on that. I have been told that cleaning dirty edits is a bad idea as some mods are purposely made dirty, and it is generally up to the author to clean these mods. Is that untrue, should I be cleaning the dirty edits? Also I have been somewhat worried by the NavMesh warnings, and have attempted to fix those using TESVEdit, however the guide is complicated and makes little to no sense to me. For one, it says I have to look for the cell directory, however BOSS does not give me a cell directory for these deleted NavMeshes. However, I will now look into LOOT.EDIT: Im rather confused on how to use LOOT.. any guides? EDIT: I have deleted a few problematic mods that I dont have the requirements for. I have updated the OP with the BOSS log that I now have. Also I have used LOOT to establish a better load order. Here is the load order that LOOT has given me: Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1Omegared99-Compilation.esm=1RiverHelm.esm=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm=1SexLab.esm=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1brawlbug-plugin.esp=1Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1Change Spouse Outfits.esp=1Lock Overhaul.esp=1FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp=1ETaC - Complete.esp=1SkyRe_Main.esp=1More Craftables.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp=1FullBootForKKSA.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1Pureweather.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1Supreme Fog.esp=1Isharas_KeyRing.esp=1ShieldsofSkyrimLists.esp=1Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1TKDodge.esp=1Skyrim Radioactive.esp=1ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=13DNPC.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp=1BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp=1ApachiiHairStyles.esp=1ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1fortdarkwaterbyadam.esp=1Prides of Skyrim.esp=1ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Sharks.esp=1skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1Immersive Whiterun.esp=1CornerofTheSkyrim.esp=1Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed.esp=1LC_CastleInvasion.esp=1Skyrim Unbound.esp=1JKs Windhelm.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp=1The McMiller Chronicles.esp=1UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1DawnofRiften.esp=1Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1Natalie - Healer Follower.esp=1ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp=1Craftable Artifacts.esp=1UniqueBorderGates-All.esp=1quest into the depths.esp=1SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp=1Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp=1NorthernCardinal.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Daggercross_Alley.esp=1Valuungrann.esp=1OverflowingEnchant.esp=1SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1Breezehome Estate.esp=1PiratesofthePacific.esp=1RayeksEnd.esp=1Ignatius.esp=1SilverDragonArmor.esp=1wizDynamicThings.esp=1skycity.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1ancient tower.esp=1CompanionArissa.esp=1Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp=1NorthernCardinal_Falskaar.esp=1SexLab Romance.esp=1Kate.esp=1Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp=1Most.esp=1CrimsonQuest2.esp=1naturalisticwerewolf.esp=1NightsWatchArmor.esp=1Ranger's Cape.esp=1TheCallOfTheNorth.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1Unexpected Blades.esp=1UniqueWeaponsRedone.esp=1So far, no changes. I dont want to have to do it, but Im thinking about just wiping my Data folder clean and restarting. Edited November 24, 2014 by Fizzygswag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzygswag Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) I've had a breakthrough! I disabled all the files that deleted NavMeshes and presto! the CTD has stopped! However, I would still like to use those mods so if someone could direct me on how to restore the NavMeshes using TESVEdit / BOSS / LOOT. Thanks! I do not know what CK is, which is what all the guides tell me to use so if someone could explain that to me :) Edited November 24, 2014 by Fizzygswag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefever Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I hate to say this but no it will take way more time than you think to mod that into a usable pluggin. Just concentrate on getting your game to actually function with some mods installed first. And not crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzygswag Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 I hate to say this but no it will take way more time than you think to mod that into a usable pluggin. Just concentrate on getting your game to actually function with some mods installed first. And not crash. I have no active save game going on in Skyrim right now, so if I mess up, I'll just remove the mods its no biggie. Honestly, I would very much like to use these mods so for me it's worth a try, whether it's hard or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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