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SOLVED!

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2383004-skyrim-random-ctd-no-error-no-initial-lag-warning-does-not-occur-on-new-save-mods-installed/page-4&do=findComment&comment=23220699

 

Hello,

 

I finally got my game to be stable with mods. So I replaced AoS with AoS2, Pure Waters with Realistic Water 2. I added Double Torch Radius, Immersive Armors, Immersive Weapons, Immersive NPC in the Dark and Immsersive Patrols. After I did this it was stable, perfectly fine. After a few hours I completed the bards college Olaf thing, then did the Wolf Queen quest. it first crashed in that cave, I thought nothing of it, Skyrim crashes occasionally.

 

As I have already said, it does not crash on a new save.

 

After I did the quest, I headed back to Solitude and it crashed on the journey, I started up and got to the entrance of Solitude where it continued to crash and I couldn't do anything apart from quickly do

coc SolitudeBluePalace

I completed the quest, saved and it crashed. And it keeps doing so.

 

I use Mod Organizer, my game is installed to the usual C:\ location with Steam.

my PC specs are:

  • 6-core 3.5Ghz AMD fx 6300
  • 8GB DDR3 RAM
  • AMD 7870 2Gb VRAM

I have the DLC Hearthfire, Dragonborn and Dawnguard. I have the Highres DLC disabled.

 

The mods I have installed are as follows:

mod_id,mod_installed_name,mod_version,file_installed_name
25095,"(nK) -HYBRID- Be Both Vampire Lord and Werewolf","4.0.0.0","v4.0 (USKP)-25095-4-0.rar"
7824,"2K Road Snow Footprints","1.0.0.0","Road Snow Footprints 2K-7824-1-0.rar"
44091,"A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget","2.0.7.0","AMatterOfTime_v2_0_7-44091-2-0-7.7z"
51077,"Alchemist Compendium","1.2.0.0","Alchemist Compendium-51077-1-2.rar"
44782,"Alternate Summoning Visuals","1.0.0.0","Alternate SummoningVisuals-44782-.7z"
15524,"Amazing Follower Tweaks","1.66.0.0","AmazingFollowerTweaks_1_66-15524-1-66.7z"
48287,"Animated Clutter","1.9.0.0","animated clutter-48287-1-9.7z"
43773,"Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2","2.2.0.0","AOS_2_2 Full Installer including Hotfix-43773-2-2.rar"
34842,"AutoSave Manager","1.21.0.0","AutosaveManager121-34842-1-21.7z"
29631,"Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack","1.3.0.0","Bellyache HD Dragon Replacer Final-29631-1-3.7z"
27371,"Better Dialogue Controls","1.2.0.0","Better Dialogue Controls v1_2-27371-1-2.zip"
28170,"Better MessageBox Controls","1.2.0.0","Better MessageBox Controls v1_2-28170-1-2.zip"
16531,"Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking","3.4.0.0","Better Stealth AI for Followers-16531-3-4.zip"
17723,"Birds of Skyrim","0.6.5.0","Birds of Skyrim 065_BSA archive-17723-0-6-5.zip"
35399,"Book Covers Skyrim Desaturated","2.9.7.0","Book Covers Skyrim 2_9_7 LEGENDARY - Desaturated-35399-2-9-7.7z"
11158,"Breezehome FullyUpgradable","1.7.6.0","Breezehome Fully Upgradable Dawnguard and Hearthfires v1_7_6-11158-1-7-6.zip"
2666,"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.3.0.0","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition v3.3-2666-3-3.7z"
17802,"Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio","3.1.0.0","Climates Of Tamriel - V3-1-17802-3-1.zip"
12092,"Cloaks of Skyrim","1.2.0.0","Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 -12092-1-2.rar"
44541,"Complete - Legendary Version - Dawnguard AND Dragonborn","1.51.1.0","Complete - Legendary Version - Dawnguard AND Dragonborn-44541-1-51-1.7z"
42286,"Concentrative Fire and Frost Shouts for Player","2.0.0.0","Concentrative Fire and Frost Shouts for Player - Last word only-42286-2.zip"
19303,"Conjurable Chest and Crafting Furniture Spells","3.4.1.0","Conjurable Chest and Crafting Furniture-19303-3-4-1.zip"
14950,"Convenient Horses","5.0.0.0","Convenient Horses v5_0-14950-5-0.zip"
17491,"D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly","2.0.0.0","D13 Faster Get up Stand up animation-17491-2-0.rar"
27789,"DaedricDawnbreakerNoStagger","f1.03","DaedricDawnbreakerNoStagger-27789-1-03.7z"
9605,"Double Torch Radius","1.0.0.0","Double Torch Radius-9605-1-0.zip"
12525,"DYNAVISION - Dynamic Depth of Field","2.2.0.0","DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field v 2_2-12525-2-2.rar"
27043,"ELFX - SMIM Meshes","2.0.0.0","ELFX - SMIM Meshes-27043-2-0.7z"
27043,"Enhanced Lights and FX","2.0.0.0","Enhanced Lights and FX-27043-2-0.7z"
27043,"Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard","2.0.0.0","Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard-27043-2-0.7z"
27043,"Enhanced Lights and FX - Dragonborn","2.0.0.0","Enhanced Lights and FX - Dragonborn-27043-2-0.7z"
51869,"ETHEREAL AURORAS","1.0.0.0","Ethereal_Auroras_1_0-51869-1-0.zip"
32695,"Even Better Quest Objectives","1.4.0.0","Even Better Quest Objectives - Please Use This Version-32695-1-4.7z"
57873,"Extended UI","1.0.4.0a","Extended UI-57873-1-0-4a.7z"
37994,"Falskaar","1.1.4.0","Falskaar V1_1_4-37994-1-1-4.7z"
59893,"Floating Torch Spell","1.0.0.0","Hovering Torch Spell-59893-1-0.rar"
11811,"FNIS Spells V5 0 1 -- ADD-ON for the spells","5.0.1.0","FNIS Spells V5_0_1 -- ADD-ON for the spells -11811-5-0-1.7z"
0,"FNIS Stuff","",""
52019,"Follower Commentary Overhaul","1.3.0.0","Follower Commentary Overhaul-52019-1-3.7z"
22745,"Footprints","0.99.0.0","Footprints v0_99-22745-0-99.7z"
11811,"Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS","5.2.0.0","FNIS Behavior V5_2 -- ALWAYS necessary-11811-5-2.7z"
29085,"Grimoas Vampire Lord","1.1.0.0","Grimoas Vampire Lord Vanilla Armour-29085-1-1.7z"
23390,"Guard Dialogue Overhaul","1.4.0.0","Guard Dialogue Overhaul-23390-1-4.7z"
43493,"Hold Border Banners","1.0.0.0","Hold Border Banners-43493-1-0.rar"
36728,"HotKeys++","1.8.0.0","HotKeysPP-36728-1-8.7z"
50419,"Illustrated town panels ENG","1.5.0.0","Illustrated town panels ENG-50419-1-5.7z"
19733,"Immersive Armors","7.1.0.0","Immersive Armors v7_1-19733-7-1.7z"
3222,"Immersive HUD - iHUD","3.0.0.0","Immersive HUD v3-3222-3-0.rar"
52239,"Immersive NPC in the dark","0.8.2.0","Immersive NPC in the dark 0-8-2-52239-0-8-2.7z"
12977,"Immersive Patrols","2.0.3.0","DLC Unaggressive IP 2.0.3-12977-2-0-3.7z"
27644,"Immersive Weapons","1.5.0.0","Immersive Weapons-27644-1-5.7z"
40960,"INIGO","2.0.0.0","INIGO V2.0-40960-2-0.zip"
6594,"Lockpick graduation by Lilyu","1.0.0.0","Option C-6594.7z"
21265,"Lore-Based Loading Screens","1.1.0.0","Lore-Based Loading Screens 1_1 Release-21265-1-1.7z"
28685,"Marriable Serana","1.6.2.0",""
35470,"Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul","2.33.0.0","Moonlight Tales Version 2_33-35470-2-33.zip"
52548,"More Snow on the Road","1.0.0.0","More Snow on the Road-52548-1-0.zip"
51956,"moreHUD","2.1.3.0","AHZmoreHUD_v2_1_3-51956-2-1-3.7z"
4020,"Move it Dammit for NPC Companions and Followers","f1.01","Move_it - Less Wait Time-4020-1-01.zip"
28428,"New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8","0.8.0.0","New Animation for magic cast v0-8 - NMM installer-28428-0-8.7z"
51188,"No Snow Under The Roof","2.3.0.0","No Snow Under the Roof and 3D snow 2_3-51188-2-3.7z"
40706,"OneTweak","1.1.1.0","OneTweak-40706-1-1-1-4.7z"
22610,"Peaceful Explosion","1.2.0.0","Peaceful Explosion-22610-1-2.zip"
33393,"Point The Way","1.0.4.0","Point The Way-33393-1-0-4.7z"
45790,"Potion of Blood Recipe - Cooking Pot","d2014.9.20","Blood Potion Recipe-45790-.7z"
22274,"Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit","1.3.0.0","Predator Vision v 1_3-22274-1-3.rar"
52423,"Pure Weather","2.1.0.0","1_Pure Weather - Realism-52423-2-1.rar"
52612,"Real Shelter - Full Release","1.3.1.0","Real Shelter 1.3 and 1.3 betas to 1.3.1 Update -52612-1-3-1.zip"
51069,"Realistic Aspen Trees","2.5.0.0","Realistic Aspen Trees v 2-5 - SATURATED-51069-2-5.7z"
41076,"Realistic Water Two","1.11.0.0","Realistic Water Two v1_11-41076-1-11.7z"
22565,"Royal Bloodline - Throne Room","1.31.0.0","RoyalBloodline_ThroneRoom_0131-22565-1-31.zip"
22565,"Royal Bloodline - Vampire Lord perk tree - abilities - and more","1.31.0.0","RoyalBlood-0131-22565-1-31.zip"
23906,"Run For Your Lives","2.0.3.0","Run For Your Lives-23906-2-0-3.7z"
57578,"Signs of Skyrim","1.2.0.0","Signs of Skyrim - standalone-57578-1-2.7z"
51038,"SKSE ini pre-download for lazy users","1.0.0.0","INI settings-51038-1-0.7z"
0,"SKSE Scripts 1 07 01","d2014.10.22","E:/Desktop/skse_1_07_01.7z"
40564,"SkyFalls + SkyMills","3.3.1.0","SkyFalls and SkyMills FOMOD-BAIN Installer-40564-3-3-1.rar"
57859,"Skyrim - Enhanced Camera","1.1.0.0","Enhanced Camera 1.1-57859-1-1.zip"
57612,"Skyrim Better Roads","1.3.0.0","Skyrim Better Roads (FOMOD Installer - All options included)-57612-1-3.rar"
607,"Skyrim HD v1 5 FULL - Dungeons","1.5.0.0","Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Dungeons-607.7z"
607,"Skyrim HD v1 5 FULL - Landscape","1.5.0.0","Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Landscape-607.7z"
607,"Skyrim HD v1 5 FULL - Towns","1.5.0.0","Skyrim HD v1_5 FULL - Towns-607.7z"
607,"Skyrim HD v1 6 FULL - Riften","1.6.0.0","Skyrim HD v1_6 FULL - Riften-607-1-6.7z"
52901,"Skyrim High Definition LODs","1.0.0.0","SkyrimHighDefinitionLODs-52901-1-0.7z"
52901,"Skyrim High Definition LODs Dragonborn","1.0.0.0","Skyrim High Definition LODs Dragonborn-52901-1-0.7z"
24913,"Skyrim Immersive Creatures","6.5.2.0a","Skyrim Immersive Creatures v6_5_2a NMM BAIN-24913-6-5-2a.7z"
3863,"SkyUI","4.1.0.0",""
54527,"Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower","f2.01.","Sofia Follower Upgrade from 2.0 to 2.01-54527-v-2-01.rar"
37873,"Splash of Rain","f1.051","Splash of Rain v1_051-37873-1-051.7z"
8655,"Static Mesh Improvement Mod","1.74.0.0","SMIM 1-74-8655-1-74.7z"
51311,"Superior Rorikstead","1.1.2.0","Update 1.1.02-51311-1-1-02.rar"
3799,"Thundering shouts","1.2.0.0","Thundering Shouts-3799-1-2.7z"
33292,"Unique Uniques","1.8.0.0","Unique Uniques-33292-1-8.7z"
17623,"Unlimited Weapon Charges","2.0.0.0Revision","Unlimited Weapon Charges-17623-Revision2.rar"
-1,"Unmanaged: Dawnguard","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: Dragonborn","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: HearthFires","",""
23491,"Unofficial Dawnguard Patch","2.0.8.0","Unofficial Dawnguard Patch-23491-2-0-8.7z"
31083,"Unofficial Dragonborn Patch","2.0.8.0","Unofficial Dragonborn Patch-31083-2-0-8.7z"
25127,"Unofficial Hearthfire Patch","2.0.8.0","Unofficial Hearthfire Patch-25127-2-0-8.7z"
19,"Unofficial Skyrim Patch","2.0.7.0","Unofficial Skyrim Patch-19-2-0-7.7z"
28659,"Vampires Rebalanced","2.5.0.0","Vampires Rebalanced-28659-2-5.rar"
8419,"Vampires sans sun debuff","f1.00","Vaimpires sans sun debuff-8419-1.rar"
56980,"VioLens - A Killmove Mod","1.2.0.0","VioLens - A Killmove Mod 1.2-56980-1-2.7z"
25501,"Warburgs 3D Paper World Map","4.3.0.0","Texture 2-25501-.7z"
25501,"Warburgs Beta Dragonborn - Addon","d2014.9.20","Beta Dragonborn - Addon-25501-.7z"
25501,"Warburgs Dawnguard - Addon","d2014.9.20","Dawnguard Addon-25501-.7z"
27563,"Wet and Cold","1.422.0.0","Wet and Cold v1_422-27563-1-422.7z"
31968,"Wet and Cold - Ashes","f1.09","Wet and Cold - Ashes v1_09-31968-1-09.7z"
51472,"Wet and Cold - Holidays","f1.07","Wet and Cold - Holidays v1_07-51472-1-07.7z"
44541,"Wet and Cold - Patch","1.51.0.0","Wet and Cold - Patch-44541-1-51-0.7z"
28235,"When Vampires Attack","2.0.3.0","When Vampires Attack-28235-2-0-3.7z"
13486,"Winter Is Coming - Cloaks","2.3.0.0","WIC Cloaks NMM 2_3-13486-2-3.7z"

 

 

If you want the file as a .csv it is here:

http://www.mediafire.com/view/uet63od4edzx69r/Mods.csv

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I've run LOOT and done TES5edit on Inigo (the only dirty plugin, I had previously cleaned everything else)

And I know I am not running out of VRAm as I have 2GB of it, and it doesn't crash on this new character.

I would start by running TES5EDIT and make sure your mods are playing nicely together. Tutorial here:

 

 

 

 

Then check my first post here:

 

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2377999-heavily-modded-skyrim-ctd-on-some-fight-encounters/&do=findComment&comment=20934684

 

 

With all those mods you may be running out of VRAM

 

 

 

 

It also did not a crash on start up, it happens randomly while playing for a few measly seconds, sometimes longer.

 

I don't want to lose my higher level character, as I haven't done all I want to with that one yet.

 

I will check out the video though.

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I have run TES5Edit, there is no issue:


http://puu.sh/dBdWW/c5d8b30e9c.png

 

 

I am going to run GenerateFNISForUsers, just in case. Hopefully that might fix something. Afterwards I am going to uninstall, then reinstall Pure Weather (since I don't have Pure Waters any more, maybe it relies on something for that, or screws up Realistic Water 2)

 

**UPDATE**

Previous comments achieved nothing. Autosaving etc. works fine, then it crashes without warning. I managed to "coc riverwood" and walk around, no FPS trouble. Then crash.

Just installed Pure Weather again, and now I am going to load up and see if it works, afterwards (if it crashes) I will try respawning the cells.

Installing Pure Weather did not help. And Respawning the cells did not help, it crashed immediately afterwards.

 

I have noticed that it does not crash while I am in a menu, only when I am in game.

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No mention of the things that make Skyrim Stable , so i will ask.

 

Do you have...

Stable Ugrids to load<<< (even default Ugrids needs this.)

SKSE w/SKSE.ini<<<Memory blocks , replaces SSME

ENB (all current versions of ENB come with BOOST) use with or without Graphics. <<<Memory management.

 

Check links in my Sig, get these 3 things working and Skyrim can be stable , then look for incompatible mods.

Post a Load Order. Use LOOT.

Download SPM (Skyrim Performance Monitor) run that for a bit or till crash, post the graph.

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No mention of the things that make Skyrim Stable , so i will ask.

 

Do you have...

Stable Ugrids to load<<< (even default Ugrids needs this.)

SKSE w/SKSE.ini<<<Memory blocks , replaces SSME

ENB (all current versions of ENB come with BOOST) use with or without Graphics. <<<Memory management.

 

Check links in my Sig, get these 3 things working and Skyrim can be stable , then look for incompatible mods.

Post a Load Order. Use LOOT.

Download SPM (Skyrim Performance Monitor) run that for a bit or till crash, post the graph.

The list of mods should show that I have SKSE/SKSE.ini

I don't have an ENB installed (pretty sure)

I used LOOT

and I cant get skyrim performance monitor to work with Mod Organizer.

 

I will try stable uGrids to load. What settings do you recommend?

 

Thanks for the help.

 

**UPDATE**

Got SPM to work, and here are the graphs. Remember this setup works perfectly fine on a new save.

 

http://puu.sh/dDNB8/47f827a796.png

http://puu.sh/dDNB0/664c871f0d.png

 

**UPDATE 2**

Tried stable uGrids to load at 5 and 6, it still crashes.

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Leave Ugrids at default (5) the Mod insures only 5 Grids are loaded as in vanilla can mess this up sometimes. By the way it can only be ODD numbers 5,7,9, 11 Best to leave at 5.

 

ADD an ENB for the memory manager. You can just get the Default from 'enbdev.com'. And in the ENBlocal.ini set this line TRUE>>UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false That will give you the BOOST feature without any graphic modifications.

 

Post the contents of this LOG>> skse_steam_loader.log... found in your MY docs folder...IE:......\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE

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Leave Ugrids at default (5) the Mod insures only 5 Grids are loaded as in vanilla can mess this up sometimes. By the way it can only be ODD numbers 5,7,9, 11 Best to leave at 5.

 

ADD an ENB for the memory manager. You can just get the Default from 'enbdev.com'. And in the ENBlocal.ini set this line TRUE>>UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false That will give you the BOOST feature without any graphic modifications.

 

Post the contents of this LOG>> skse_steam_loader.log... found in your MY docs folder...IE:......\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE

The log file:

 

skse loader 01070010 (steam) 01D01D44B5E567DC 6.2 (9200)

base addr = 6C020000

GetSystemTimeAsFileTime IAT = 0106B1D8

original GetSystemTimeAsFileTime = 777270C0

patched GetSystemTimeAsFileTime = 6C0217F0

GetStartupInfoA IAT = 0106B1D0

original GetStartupInfoA = 77728FE0

patched GetStartupInfoA = 6C021810

InstallHook: thread = 21268 retaddr = 00F5673E hookSrc = 1

appPath = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\TESV.exe

dwSignature = FEEF04BD

dwStrucVersion = 00010000

dwFileVersionMS = 00010009

dwFileVersionLS = 00200000

dwProductVersionMS = 00010009

dwProductVersionLS = 00200000

dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017

dwFileFlags = 00000000

dwFileOS = 00000004

dwFileType = 00000001

dwFileSubtype = 00000000

dwFileDateMS = 00000000

dwFileDateLS = 00000000

version = 0001000900200000

steam exe

dll = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\skse_1_9_32.dll

old winmain = 0069D1D0

runtime root = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\

config path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini

overriding memory pool sizes

default heap = 768MB (effective 512MB if not preloading animations)

scrap heap = 256MB

OnHook: thread = 21268

calling winmain

 

 

 

I don't quite understand what you want me to do on enbdev.com. Could you elaborate please?

 

Again, thanks for the help.

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