Twin2kaay7 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Ok so I am fairly advanced in modding but of course I am no Robot so I am prone to do mistakes. I have my ~180 esp files active and experience frequent crashes. The thing is they do not seem to be related to anything really. What I have noticed is that sometimes when there is a lot of stuff goin on like when I am fighting 3 vampries and 2 dogs in whiterun while guards help me it often causes a freeze. I also frequently crash when opening the UI like my inventory or just hit "esc". Worst case scenario was when I fought vampires in Solitude and needed to quickly chunk in a health potion to survie and crashed. And it repeated each time I opened the inventory or to much was going on. So obviously being the sly fox I am i thought of a mod conflicting with another in a way i don't want them to causing me to freeze or sometimes crash. (more often it is a freeze) Information:I use the SKSE .ini tweak to increase memoryI used LOOTCreated a bashed patchCleaned every ITMs and dirty edits using TESVeditNvidia geforce 660 gtx16G of RAMIntel Core i7 3770KSo the only thing I am aware ofn that might be causing me to crash is a possible conflict. Maybe I have overlooked something so I need you help.If you notice a conflict that might be causing me to crash tell me. No matter how small it might be I want to know if it can be avoided or In just have to live with it. 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Combat Realism.espPerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.espThunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espRGMsAlchemistsCompendium.espELFX - Moonpath.espWhen Vampires Attack.espiActivate - USKP.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espdovahkiinrelax.espSkyUI.espiHUD.espBashed Patch, 0.espPatchusMaximus.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Every Input is much aprichiated! PLS HELP MEEEY! :blush: Edited February 24, 2015 by Twin2kaay7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szoszoman1985 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 i think u use too many high res textures they eat a lot of vram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin2kaay7 Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 i think u use too many high res textures they eat a lot of vram Funny thing is I don't even have any of those currently active... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simsim899 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 It could be that your PC doesn't have adequate cooling and is overheating. What is your cooling like? Do you have water cooling, or how many fans, and how is your cable management? I have similar PC specs to yours, and also a similarish mod list, though bigger, and I believe that is the main reason for my crashes. Running MSI Afterburner while playing Skyrim usually shows a GPU temperature spike right before I crash. Although this happens much less frequently now that I've cleaned all the dust out of my case and turned off the radiator in my room (you'd be surprised how much of a difference that makes). You could try getting MSI Afterburner (it's free), and use the on-screen display to monitor temperatures when you play Skyrim (although you can't use it if you use an ENB). If you find they go high when you freeze or crash, I bet overheating is the problem and you need better cooling. Also, I notice you have Convenient Horses. You could try turning on the script latency checker it has in the MCM, to see if your problem is caused by having too many heavily scripted mods. That was another cause for my CTDs as well I believe, as since uninstalling some scripted mods I don't need (and running the save game script cleaner), my CTDs have become far less frequent. Finally, make sure when you run Skyrim you don't have any other (non-essential) programs running in the background. I have disabled windows aero as well as that uses a lot of memory which is unnecessary. Also, if you have wireless internet, you may consider turning off the adapter when you play Skyrim. I had an awful time with lag and stuttering and screen tearing, everything, when I had my wireless adapter enabled. I don't know why, and it took AGES to figure out it was the culprit to those problems, but turning it off almost completely stopped the stuttering, lag etc... Now I have wired internet though and it's perfectly fine to leave on when I play.Anyway yeah, so, hope that helped a little bit! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 even disabling the esp's the textures can still be loaded. also might like to reorganise your load order to resemble something with a bit of order: hereYour load order is a bit of a mess. IF you do reorder it run tes5edit to see if everything's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin2kaay7 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 It could be that your PC doesn't have adequate cooling and is overheating. What is your cooling like? Do you have water cooling, or how many fans, and how is your cable management? I have similar PC specs to yours, and also a similarish mod list, though bigger, and I believe that is the main reason for my crashes. Running MSI Afterburner while playing Skyrim usually shows a GPU temperature spike right before I crash. Although this happens much less frequently now that I've cleaned all the dust out of my case and turned off the radiator in my room (you'd be surprised how much of a difference that makes). You could try getting MSI Afterburner (it's free), and use the on-screen display to monitor temperatures when you play Skyrim (although you can't use it if you use an ENB). If you find they go high when you freeze or crash, I bet overheating is the problem and you need better cooling. Also, I notice you have Convenient Horses. You could try turning on the script latency checker it has in the MCM, to see if your problem is caused by having too many heavily scripted mods. That was another cause for my CTDs as well I believe, as since uninstalling some scripted mods I don't need (and running the save game script cleaner), my CTDs have become far less frequent. Finally, make sure when you run Skyrim you don't have any other (non-essential) programs running in the background. I have disabled windows aero as well as that uses a lot of memory which is unnecessary. Also, if you have wireless internet, you may consider turning off the adapter when you play Skyrim. I had an awful time with lag and stuttering and screen tearing, everything, when I had my wireless adapter enabled. I don't know why, and it took AGES to figure out it was the culprit to those problems, but turning it off almost completely stopped the stuttering, lag etc... Now I have wired internet though and it's perfectly fine to leave on when I play.Anyway yeah, so, hope that helped a little bit! :smile: thx for the detailed reply , I will go into dowloading MSI to see if it may be a hardware problem , I use two fans so it is again similar to your setup and yes I tried using the convenient horses script latency checker. I had the same idea and after uninstalling some of the script heavy mods I really wanted to have but didn't really notice , you know I just can't decide what stays and what has to go if there was no limit I'd have like a bazillian mods :D. Coming back to the point I was trieing to make .. lul ... the script checker was stable at around 40ms which is great considering the 65 I had before. Crashes DID go after that DRASTICLY but you know they are not completely gone. I don't mind them being there as they are somewhat seldom though frequent enough to annoy me but they aren't still completly gone. That is why I asked , but It seems if you really wanna mod your skyrim to this extend there is a high chance of this happening. Ah and before I forget are you using ENB or/ and texture replacers together with your mods?would it increase the amount of crashes if I installed an ENB or texture mods? I mean I have solid 60 frames and Skyrim isn't exactly the best looking or most demanding game of all time for today's standards. And thx for the MSI idea didn't think of that. Good idea and I'm gonna try this as soon as I get the chance to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin2kaay7 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 even disabling the esp's the textures can still be loaded. also might like to reorganise your load order to resemble something with a bit of order: hereYour load order is a bit of a mess. IF you do reorder it run tes5edit to see if everything's good. Thx for the advise but I don't think it is my mod order IU checked it and it seems not to be the problem. Why do you think it is a mess? It is well ordered , is it not?I might ofc be missing something , but i am not a complete Newbie to modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balloran Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Your mod order is definitely affecting things. all of your mods should be grouped by type, and the dependencies should be closer together, eg Racemenu and racemenu Plugin. do you have memoryblocks SKSE plugin installed by chance? you could check it to make sure you have enough allocated, etc.Did you use Tes5edit to make sure all mods are clean?i'll shut up now, i'm sure you thought of everything i could come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Your mod order is definitely affecting things. all of your mods should be grouped by type, and the dependencies should be closer together, eg Racemenu and racemenu Plugin. do you have memoryblocks SKSE plugin installed by chance? you could check it to make sure you have enough allocated, etc.Did you use Tes5edit to make sure all mods are clean?i'll shut up now, i'm sure you thought of everything i could come up with.Exactly what I mean. Group them by type and dependencies keeps everything nice, organised and loading as it should. Edited February 26, 2015 by vlaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin2kaay7 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Ok thx for the advise I will go through my loadorder and sort it out manually to be more reliable. and yes I have the SKSE "plugin" installed and cleaned everything but thx anyway for the suggestion.I think I have enough issues to be fixing for now thx y'all. EDIT: So after sorting my loadorder maually after LOOTing it it looks like this:# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espFalskaar.esmApachiiHair.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmmoonpath.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmItBeatsForHer.espAOS.espClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.espAOS2_CoT3_1_patch.espNoSneakAttackSound.espFantasy Soundtrack Project.espFSP - Dawnguard Edition.espFSP - Dragonborn Edition.espFantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations.espFixCombatMusic.espmoonpath_questdata.espImmersive Patrols II.esp3DNPC.espBlackHorseCourier.espBirdsofskyrim.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espJKs Skyrim.espCornerofTheSkyrim.espPoint The Way.espSkyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.espConvenient Bridges.espfallentreebridges.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espCWIDawnDragonPatch.espSkyrim Radioactive.espHoldBorderBanners.espSMIM-Merged-All.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espORM-Arvak.espBVFE_Serana.espBook Covers Skyrim.espRealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espImproved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espAOS2_WAF Patch.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.espGlass Variants.espUnique Uniques.espNightingale Armor Face Mask.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espWSCO - Better NPCs.espWSCO - OcciBetterMale.espWSCO - OcciFemaleCBBE.espRSChildren - Complete.espRSChildren_PatchUSKP.espBeards.espBrows.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espThe Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espSupreme Storms - Cot Version.espAOS2_SupremeStorms_CoT Patch.espCoT-WeatherPatch.espCoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.espCoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.espCoT-WeatherPatch_DB.espCoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.espClear Skies Fix - CoT version.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espCWIELnFXPatch.espELFX - Exteriors.espELFXEnhancer.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations - ELFX.espELFX - Moonpath.espELFX - Dragonborn.espELFX - Dawnguard.espCanalHome.espHassildor.espSicarius' Refuge.espImmersive Weapons.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espTembtra Thief Armor.espBlackSacramentArmor.espBlackSacramentDBReplacer.espDr_Bandolier.espCloaks.espCloaks - Dawnguard.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espBrawl Bugs CE.espMarriable Serana.espRGMsAlchemistsCompendium.espHeadtracking.espFootprints.espFootprints - Ash.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espTorchRadius.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espAOS2_DSI Patch.espSplashofRain.espTTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.espRun For Your Lives.espWhen Vampires Attack.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espBetterQuestObjectives.espBetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.espBetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.espBetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.espBetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.espTheChoiceIsYours.espTheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.espTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espBetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espRND_USKP-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espRND_AnimalLoot.espChesko_Frostfall.espPerMa_Survivalism.espConvenient Horses.espInigo.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espdovahkiinrelax.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espPerkusMaximus_Warrior.espPerkusMaximus_Mage.espThunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espPerkusMaximus_Thief.espPerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espHeadless Perma.espPre PaMa WAFR IW Patch.espPre PaMa CCF Patch.espPerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espDuel - Combat Realism.espDeadlyDragons.espRebirth Monster.espImmersive detection of NPC.espDarkManeuvers.espVioLens.espHeartBreaker.espVLCollisionFix.espBloodthirstVampireFeeding.espBatTravel.espVampirelordroyal.espBetter Vampires.espPredator Vision.espBVandRB_Formlist.espSkyUI.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espAMatterOfTime.espExtended UI.espAHZmoreHUD.espiActivate.espiActivate - USKP.espiHUD.espDual Sheath Redux.espBashed Patch, 0.espPatchusMaximus.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp How does this "new" load order look like? Edited February 26, 2015 by Twin2kaay7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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