Load Order: TES5Edit and LOOT doesn't warn about anything, but I'm getting CTDs!

[ebanno]

Hey guys, I'm getting some CTDs in a clean save. The CTDs occurs inside Whiterun. Can someone please take a look on it, say if its missing some patch or if the load order is wrong, anything. Thats a install that I did with to much care, ists surprising for me that I'm getting CTDs. Here are my load order:


Pastebin link : http://pastebin.com/42N3wjYJ

"# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
LeatherBackpackBlack-100.esp
StoneHammerArmor.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
Wandererarmor.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
LeatherBackpackBrown-100.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
AOS.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
Disease Descriptions.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Brows.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
LeatherBackpackDarkBrown-100.esp
FaraamOutfit.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Dark Souls Set 01.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Cleric Armours - Credo.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
SplashofRain.esp
Beards.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Paralyze.esp
HDT Capes.esp
Liberation Assassin Set.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
3DNPC.esp
AFT_iNPCFix.esp
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
Hearthfire - RL Patch.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Travel Attire.esp
TravelRobes.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp
RBB - Travel Merge.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
Point The Way.esp
MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
BramKnolsDespairArmors1.esp
RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.esp
Populated Dungeons Caves Ruins.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
TrueStorms-Vanilla.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
Cloaks.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
Empire Mercenaries.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
ETaC - Complete HF Patch.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp
ETaC - Smelters.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Equipping Overhaul.esp
Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp
Contractor Armor.esp
RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp
Mavari Armor.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
blessarmors.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
imp_helm_dawn.esp
imp_help_dbrn.esp
Open Cities Skyrim.esp
JKs - Open Cities Skyrim.esp
OCS - 3DNPC.esp
SkyUI.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp "

[ExelArts]

I read earlier today that another person with enchanced blood was causing ctd for him so he had removed the mod and it stopped CTD. Hope that helps

Edited September 22, 2015 by ExelArts

[ironbender800]

Hate to keep repeating this but that is why it is NOT recommended to install 50 mods at once. Unless you are absolutely sure everything works.

 

Install 5....test..install 5 more....test....if you get a crash or bad performance its much much easier to sort through 5 than 50. Easier to narrow down the problem. Im too lazy to look through each of your mods for you but try removing anything that edits whiterun or might conflict with whiterun in some way. Or you can remove one at a time and test.....will take awhile but thats all you can do really.

 

 

I have heard also that enhanced blood causes CTD. I do not use it for that reason. Always read a mods description and other peoples comments on a mod. If a lot of people are reporting problems i stay away.

[Jannifer]

Okay, just skimming down through your load order, I can see a few issues. Whether or not these are causing your CTDs is another matter entirely. First of all, Enhanced Character Edit and RaceMenu don't work together. I would suggest uninstalling ECE. Secondly, if you're running Realistic Water 2, you don't have to use the fixes for the blacksmith's trough because RW edits the troughs.

 

Finally, and most importantly, you are running many mods that edit cities. You have lighting fixes, mods which add more people and Open Cities. Open Cities alone can cause crashes around any of the major cities. When you add even more people to that open city, then you're just about guaranteed a crash.

 

So, my best advice is to seriously comb through your load order. Go back and reread descriptions on the mods you've installed. Check for conflicts and known issues. (I don't use MO, but I understand that it does some of this for you.) Then, rework your load order and uninstall conflicting mods. After you've done all that, start a new game.

 

And remember, no piece of software can replace your own good sense. Good luck! :)