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CTD at start of combat


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Okay, straight to the point. I have a very simple problem: my game sometimes (though not always) CTDs at the start of combat. Specifically, as soon as I try to draw my weapon. It only happens every once in a while, so I can still usually do combat normally, but it happens just often enough that it's a nuisance that I'd rather go out of my way to get rid of.

 

Here's my mod load order:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 ApachiiHair.esm
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
11 b Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
12 c Simplycirclets.esm
13 d Campfire.esm
14 e SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp
16 10 AMatterOfTime.esp
17 11 CoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp
18 12 SkyUI.esp
19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
20 14 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
21 15 WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp
22 16 NoSneakAttackSound.esp
Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
23 17 BHWarPaints.esp
24 18 AV1WarpaintPack.esp
25 19 AV1DragonPaint.esp
26 1a Character Creation Overhaul.esp
27 1b TimingIsEverything.esp
28 1c RaceMenuPlugin.esp
29 1d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
30 1e iHUD.esp
31 1f Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
32 20 SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp
33 21 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
34 22 better summoning visuals - thegreylight.esp
35 23 CorrectGenderAnimations-DB.esp
36 24 Convenient Horses.esp
37 25 Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
38 26 BFSEffects.esp
39 27 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
40 28 CorrectGenderAnimations-DG.esp
41 29 Fox_breathe_low.esp
42 2a CuttingRoomFloorRemoveAltArmorEffect.esp
43 2b CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
44 2c NeutralHjerim.esp
45 2d FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
46 2e AnonymousPeople.esp
47 2f CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
48 30 Pupetteer Master.esp
49 31 DovahBlingBraceletsScr.esp
50 32 JaxonzMapMarkers.esp
51 33 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
52 34 JaxonzNamedSave.esp
53 35 MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp
54 36 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
55 37 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
56 38 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
57 39 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
58 3a ELFX - Exteriors.esp
59 3b ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
60 3c Custom_Markers_with_Notes.esp
61 3d Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
62 3e RaceMenu.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
63 3f Immersive Scars.esp
64 40 NCC.esp
65 41 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
66 42 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
67 43 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
68 44 Calldragonredux.esp
69 45 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
70 46 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
71 47 PumpingIron.esp
72 48 NoPaarthQuestA.esp
73 49 Sneak Alarm Time.esp
74 4a Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows.esp
75 4b DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp
76 4c NosPiercedEarsAll.esp
77 4d JaxonzRenamer.esp
78 4e KJ Lore Tattoos 4K.esp
79 4f KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
80 50 hhBelethorDialogFix.esp
81 51 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
83 53 Lower Cost Wards.esp
84 54 CrimeDecay.esp
85 55 Scars of Skyrim.esp
MainMenu.esp
86 56 CookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp
87 57 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
88 58 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
89 59 Scrolling Speed.esp
90 5a SkyrimToyStory.esp
91 5b female mannequins in homes.esp
92 5c SleepTight.esp
93 5d TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp
94 5e Stolen Items.esp
95 5f The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
96 60 Traps Make Noise.esp
97 61 Tribal Warpaint for Females.esp
98 62 donorcollegejoin.esp
99 63 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
100 64 norequiredperks.esp
101 65 TradeBarter.esp
102 66 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
103 67 CommonClothes.esp
104 68 HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp
105 69 CorrectGenderAnimations.esp
106 6a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
107 6b DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
108 6c SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp
109 6d CookingExpanded.esp
110 6e CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp
111 6f Master of Disguise - Legendary.esp
112 70 DovahBlingJewelryUniques.esp
113 71 imp_helm_legend.esp
114 72 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
115 73 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
116 74 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
117 75 ELFXEnhancer.esp
118 76 SaturationBoost.esp
119 77 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
120 78 Tamriel Reloaded.esp
121 79 SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
122 7a Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
123 7b ESFCompanions.esp
124 7c DawnofWindhelm.esp
125 7d DawnofSolitude.esp
126 7e Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
127 7f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
128 80 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
129 81 Tamriel Reloaded Mountains.esp
130 82 WATER DG + DB.esp
131 83 Holidays.esp
132 84 JK's Falkreath.esp
133 85 JKs Windhelm DoW comp.esp
134 86 CWIELnFXPatch.esp
135 87 Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp
136 88 Immersive Weapons.esp
137 89 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
138 8a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
139 8b Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
140 8c Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.esp
141 8d LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
142 8e Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
143 8f JK's Rorikstead.esp
144 90 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
145 91 JK's Dawnstar.esp
146 92 JK's Winterhold.esp
147 93 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
148 94 BardsCollegeBed.esp
149 95 DawnofWhiterun.esp
150 96 JKs Solitude.esp
151 97 Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
152 98 JK's Riverwood.esp
153 99 TheChoiceIsYours.esp
154 9a TCIY-BCS Patch.esp
155 9b JKs Riften.esp
156 9c Cloaks.esp
157 9d CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
158 9e SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
159 9f Run For Your Lives.esp
160 a0 DawnofRiften.esp
161 a1 JKs Whiterun DofW Comp.esp
162 a2 JKs Dragon Bridge.esp
163 a3 JK's Morthal.esp
164 a4 JKs Markarth.esp
165 a5 JK's Ivarstead.esp
166 a6 ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp
167 a7 SimplyCircletsDistro.esp
168 a8 OvensAndChurnsMain.esp
169 a9 Starter Armor and Weapon Cache.esp
170 aa In Your Shadow.esp
171 ab In Your Shadow - Dragonborn.esp
172 ac WayshrinesIFT.esp
173 ad Farm Animals.esp
174 ae Farm Animals_HF.esp
175 af DftT.esp
176 b0 DDD-BardsLute.esp
177 b1 CWINPCImprovements.esp
178 b2 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
179 b3 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
180 b4 Kynesgrove.esp
181 b5 ShowersInInns.esp
182 b6 OvensAndChurnsMinorInns.esp
183 b7 Sleeping Innkeepers.esp
184 b8 DawnofMarkarth.esp
185 b9 GuardedBorders.esp
186 ba Starting Spell Choice.esp
187 bb Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp
188 bc Dead Body Collision.esp
189 bd Legionettes.esp
190 be TGBC.esp
191 bf PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp
192 c0 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
193 c1 WATER Plants.esp
194 c2 Extended Encounters.esp
195 c3 HoldBorderBanners.esp
196 c4 In Your Shadow - Dawnguard.esp
197 c5 Thief Encounter Fix.esp
198 c6 MoD IA Patch.esp
199 c7 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
200 c8 LostEnchantments.esp
201 c9 WerewolfMastery.esp
202 ca moresmeltables.esp
203 cb WetandCold.esp
204 cc WetandCold - Ashes.esp
205 cd ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
206 ce When Vampires Attack.esp
207 cf WondersofWeather.esp
208 d0 Yield 2.0.esp
209 d1 bm_SimpleAction.esp
210 d2 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
211 d3 bodyscars.esp
212 d4 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
213 d5 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
214 d6 mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp
215 d7 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
216 d8 Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp
217 d9 TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
218 da CandlelightToggle10.esp
219 db TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
220 dc longerSearch.esp
221 dd dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
222 de dynamic fires.esp
223 df female mannequins.esp
224 e0 nomorestupiddog.esp
225 e1 Brawl Bugs CE.esp
226 e2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
227 e3 Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life.esp
(Note that the .esps that appear to be deactivated are actually activated, I'm just letting Mod Organizer manage them. They're active in any game I play. Also this was sorted with LOOT.)
Anyone see any conflicts that could be causing a crash like this? I've tried to get it as stable as I can, Mod Organizer has been a godsend with solving a lot of my crashing problems, but this solution still eludes me and even though I've been playing modded Skyrim for almost a year I'm still really just a novice.
On a somewhat related note, my game has a tendency to CTD on quicksave/autosave if I've loaded a previously saved game and then try to save. I do have a solution for this one that works perfectly, but it's a bit inconvenient because I have to do it every time I start up Skyrim to get it working. It's not a priority because like I said I have a temporary solution, but if anyone has any insight on that I'd appreciate it.
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Some suggestions:

- Brawl Bugs CE.esp after dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT-patch.esp -> not sorted by LOOT 0.7.1 right?

- MO: are the bsa's in plugin tab activated? (for MO-deactivated plugins)

also

- ever tried a bashed patch?

 

What solution on 'CTD tendency'? Please post for understanding this 'abnormal' behavior.

(remember: loading a previous saved game should have 'it's plugins' installed)

Edited by 0varon
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