AMD and AA

[AbitTasty]

So I recently switched from a Nvidia card to a AMD one and I've been having trouble with getting any kind of anti aliasing to work. I've tried forcing it, I've tried every shader I can find for OBGE and still no dice.

 

Is there anyone that is using an AMD card that has gotten rid of those pesky jaggies? Thanks for any help. :smile:

[Surilindur]

I have an AMD card, too, but I use Oblivion Reloaded by Alenet for AA. It works wonders. If you do not want to use OR and want to use the card, I would recommend the "Adaptive multisampling" AA, as it seems to give the best result for me, regardless of the game (at least the ones I have played this far with it). I am not sure how the jagged edges do not disappear with AA. Have you tried just the game without OBGE and then forcing AA from the card? Also, make sure that, in your Oblivion.ini (not the one in game folder) you have something like:

 

iMultisample=0

 

So that the game will not try to use its own AA. I have no idea if it makes a difference, though, but just something to test maybe. Or maybe not.

 

Also one option could be using the Catalyst Control Centre to set a profile (or some sort of settings preset) for Oblivion.exe that will be used for it. I do not know if the interface is the same for you (I had an HD5570 with ancient drivers before and changed to a new card with latest drivers straight from it), but there should be a list of application profiles in Gaming -> 3D Application Settings where you can add new executables. It should then be possible to select to override application settings in AA (also AF if you want it). Making a profile for an executable works better for me than just forcing AA and AF for everything for most games. But it will then use AA everywhere in the game, including menus, which will result in veeery smooth and possibly difficult to read letters. :D

 

In any case, the separate profiles are very handy. Making a profile for The Saboteur in there with "enhance application settings" and "adaptive multisampling" AA (also AF) actually made AA in that game work, as it left edges jagged before, and also solved issues with shadows 'lagging' when moving the camera. :)

 

I know absolutely nothing about NVIDIA, so I cannot help with anything related to the differences between it and AMD or such. But it is definitely possible to get rid of jagged edges with an AMD card. AA worked in Oblivion with HD5570 and it worked with R9 290 (before I found OR), so it will most likely work with whatever you have, as well.

[AbitTasty]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I've tried all of those things. When I try enhancing the exe through the control center it doesn't do anything like the Nvidia card I had did. OR just gives me a black screen when I enable it. ini checks out and everything. Also I'm using a R9 270x which is way better than the 550 ti by Nvidia I was using. I mean the jags aren't terrible but I see folks with absolutely none and it I get a little jelly lol

[Surilindur]

I have no idea what Nvidia does. If you create a profile in CCC for Oblivion.exe AND have its own AA disabled, use the 'override application settings' - for both AA and AF - because the application does not do AA or AF (Oblivion does not have its own AF) if they are not enabled in application's settings and therefore probably have nothing to 'enhance', I think. Maybe. Also, are you sure there is nothing conflicting? When you say you tried with everything, did you try just forcing AA through CCC without OBGE installed? If you have OBGE, maybe that could cause some conflicts? Also, Oblivion Reloaded is not compatible with OBGE. It should work, so you probably have something that conflicts or do not have something required by OR. Or you have installed it in an odd way, but I suppose you have it installed correctly, so it is likely a conflict. And having OBGE installed would be the most obvious reason. Or using OBGE shaders with OR. Or something related to Steam overlay, which should be checked from OR mod page or asked in the comments. I have a disc version.

 

How jagged are the edges? Just curious. In case you use some strange settings. Standard, 8x adaptive multisampling with 'override application settings' and no other utility forcing AA should definitely be enough to make edges smooth. That is why I suspect a conflict or something else.

 

This is interesting. :)

[AbitTasty]

Atm I using OBGE shaders fxaa and it does a decent job. I just notice even up close there are a few jags on my swords and a few on my character still. I tried forcing it through ccc without obge, but I do have reloaded installed. I will try uninstalling it and forcing it again to see if that works.

 

Thanks for the help btw. :smile:

[AbitTasty]

No obge or reloaded and forced aa x 8

 

 

http://s30.postimg.org/tn4onb641/no_obge_forced_aa_x_8.jpg

 

 

 

with obge but no reloaded and forced aa x 8

 

 

http://s16.postimg.org/hm8ml52px/Obge_forced_aa_x_8.jpg

 

 

second one appears better, but still around her ears and some other areas you can still see jags.

[Surilindur]

Hmm... there is nothing else I could think of. It does look pretty smooth to me. But it could also just be my laptop screen. If you use just one thing for AA, not both OBGE and craphics card at the same time, as well as use brains, it should work, I think. And not have OBGE (or its shaders) and OR installed at the same time. I really have no idea how to help you. I have some jagged edges here and there in every game, I think. But then again, the latest game I have played on PC is Skyrim, so the overall graphics quality in games I play is not too high, either. Without mods, that is. The ones I currently play are Oblivion, Skyrim, The Saboteur, Age of Empires 3, Wolfenstein (the 2009 one) and Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Or play and play... for the last several weeks I have spent an average of around four hours a day making a follower system mod for Oblivion, which is pretty ready, but I have some issues with a portal used to travel to an optional player home. :P

 

Maybe the edges will not bother too much once you get 'sucked' into the game. And perhaps someone with better understanding of OBGE and how it works with AA happens to read this. But I think most people use Oblivion Reloaded now. Or maybe not. Difficult to say.

 

Also if the profile thing of CCC smooths the game too much, or blurs it, like it seems to do with Skyrim for me, just forcing AA for everything and getting rid of the profile should make AA less... blurring. Or not. I suppose it depends on the game and a lot else. Maybe it would help to try the different settings in CCC, like the 8x EQ thing or something like it. And egde detect and others. Or whatever there is to choose from. Maybe some slightly different settings could do the trick?

 

And you are welcome, even though I could not really help you. :)

[AbitTasty]

I think OR is about the best it's gunna get and I'm cool with that. You did help. Let me know that running OBGE and OR at the same time screws things up and I didn't know that before. Thanks again. :)

[Surilindur]

No problem. :) Edited July 11, 2015 by PhilippePetain