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Hello,

 

Getting random CTD while playing my modded Skyrim, tried looking at the papyrus log and cannot decipher a thing, not sure what to look for.

 

Here is my load order. I have looked up countless modding tutorials and am no closer to knowing what Im doing wrong. I sometimes can play for about 20 minutes without a CTD, other times its right away once I load a game. Doesn't seem like any rhyme or reason.

 

 

 

My System is i5 2500k 4.3ghz oc, GTX 970, 8 Gig ddr3 1600, z77 asrock mothrboard, Samsung 850 Evo SSD.

 

I see a lot of warnings from Equipping Overhaul in the papy log, but I dont think I have anything that is incompatible with it. Help is much appreciated!

 

Most Recent Papy Log:

 

[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes_HighSpawn.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.GetBUGSLoaded() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 107
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 43
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.GetBUGSLoaded() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 109
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 43
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 76
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 80
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 84
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.CompatibilityCheck() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 88
[alias _WL_Player on quest _WL_CompatibilityQuest (56010162)]._WL_Compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WL_Compatibility.psc" Line 30
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ========================================[Wearable Lanterns: Warning Start]========================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Compatibility check complete.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ========================================[ Wearable Lanterns: Warning End ]========================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "iNeed.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[_WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 587
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetplayeralias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 6
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "getSnowy.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[_WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 592
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetplayeralias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 6
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "EFFCore.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[_WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetquestscript.Maintenance() - "_WetQuestScript.psc" Line 603
[alias Player on quest _WetQuest (1B000D63)]._wetplayeralias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_WetPlayerAlias.psc" Line 6
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ============================================[Frostfall: Warning Start]============================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Frostfall is now performing compatibility checks. Papyrus warnings about missing or
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] unloaded files may follow. This is NORMAL and can be ignored.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ============================================[Frostfall: Warning Start]============================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Wyrmstooth.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 450
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Imp's More Complex Needs.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 533
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "ScenicCarriages.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 608
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "Northborn Fur Hoods.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 630
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "1nivWICCloaks.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.GetWICPluginLoaded() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 2452
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 651
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.GetWICPluginLoaded() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 2454
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 651
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.GetWICPluginLoaded() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 2456
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 651
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "AesirArmor.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 717
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Error: File "KnapsackEnhanced.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.RunStartupCheck() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 760
[alias _DE_CompatibilityPlayer on quest _DE_Compatibility (680286F3)]._de_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_DE_Compatibility.psc" Line 324
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] InitWidgetLoader()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] WidgetError: [_de_epstatuswidget <_DE_EPStatusQuest (6805D368)>]: IconLoadFailure
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] [Frostfall] SKI_MeterWidget OnWidgetReset()
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] WidgetError: [_de_epstatuswidget <_DE_EPStatusQuest (6805D368)>]: IconLoadFailure
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank1 [Perk < (3208DCAA)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank2 [Perk < (3208E232)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank3 [Perk < (3208E234)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank4 [Perk < (3208E235)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Traveller_Rank5 [Perk < (3208E236)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank1 [Perk < (7E002F9F)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank2 [Perk < (7E002FA0)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Forestry_Rank3 [Perk < (7E002FA1)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe GlacialSwimmer [Perk < (7E002FA3)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe Windbreaker [Perk < (7E002FA4)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] SkyRe WellInsulated [Perk < (7E002FA5)>]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ============================================[ Frostfall: Warning End ]============================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] Frostfall compatibility check complete.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:29PM] ============================================[ Frostfall: Warning End ]============================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Error: Cannot call GetValue() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[_SPLSKConfigQuest (5800388D)]._splskyuiconfig.OnConfigInit() - "_SPLSkyUIConfig.psc" Line 93
[_SPLQuest (58000D65)]._splquestscript.Maintenance() - "_SPLQuestScript.psc" Line 112
[alias _SPLPlayer on quest _SPLQuest (58000D65)]._SPLPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_SPLPlayerAlias.psc" Line 6
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp13"
stack:
[_SPLSKConfigQuest (5800388D)]._splskyuiconfig.OnConfigInit() - "_SPLSkyUIConfig.psc" Line 93
[_SPLQuest (58000D65)]._splquestscript.Maintenance() - "_SPLQuestScript.psc" Line 112
[alias _SPLPlayer on quest _SPLQuest (58000D65)]._SPLPlayerAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "_SPLPlayerAlias.psc" Line 6
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Error: Cannot cast from None to SKI_WidgetBase[]
stack:
[iHUDControlQuest (55000805)].ihudwidgetscript.initialize() - "iHUDWidgetScript.psc" Line 38
[iHUDControlQuest (55000805)].ihudcontrolscript.startUp() - "iHUDControlScript.psc" Line 93
[iHUDMaintainanceQuest (55002853)].iHUDMaintainanceScript.startUp() - "iHUDMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 20
[alias PlayerAlias on quest iHUDMaintainanceQuest (55002853)].iHUDLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "iHUDLoadScript.psc" Line 11
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] [sic_configmenuscript ]: Loaded user settings.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning Start]================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul is now registering for menus. Papyrus messages about successful
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] registrations may follow. This is normal and they can be ignored.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning End]==================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: UNREGISTERED FOR ALL MENUS
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: REGISTERED FOR CONTAINER MENU
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: REGISTERED FOR FAVORITES MENU
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: REGISTERED FOR INVENTORY MENU
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning Start]================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Menu registrations complete.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning End]==================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning Start]================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul is now registering for keys. Papyrus messages about successful
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] registrations may follow. This is normal and they can be ignored.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning End]==================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: UNREGISTERED FOR ALL CONTROLS
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: UNREGISTERED FOR ALL KEYS
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: REGISTERED FOR VANILLA CONTROLS
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Equipping Overhaul: REGISTERED FOR MCM HOTKEYS
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning Start]================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] Key registrations complete.
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] ========================================[Equipping Overhaul: Warning End]==================================================
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] =====Wet and Cold is finished refreshing itself and searching for addons!=====
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM]
[07/29/2015 - 08:01:30PM] InigofollowerDialogue::PlayerLoadGame()

 

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megageeklizzy Rising Star

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Honestly, I think a lot of people play with crashes every half hour or so, and just save a lot. I do...when I actually play instead of modding. That said, I know there are people out there with fully stable load orders, so I guess it's possible. I don't know as much about this kind of thing as some people, but I'll point out what I notice.

 

The first thing I notice is a crap ton of weather mods. I see a lot of CoT patches, but while that makes all of the other mods work with CoT, they may not necessarily work with each other. I don't really know much about weather mods, so completely ignore this if you know this isn't an issue.

 

You have a RaceMenu plugin above RaceMenu. That could be a problem, I think.

 

You're using both CoT and SoS for sounds. It's probably not too big of a deal, but you might want to consider if you really need them both.

 

You are apparently using the UFO patch for the follower Hoth, but don't have UFO or Hoth.

 

IIRC, sound mods actually interfere with ELFX Enhancer sometimes. You should be okay if you overwrite the sound mods with ELFX.

 

"Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists" is probably going to cause inconsistencies with all of the mods you have that add new weapons and armor, but should cause any technical issues. I think it is probably mostly overwritten by SkyRe(IIRC and SkyRe overhauls the value and strngth of equipment).

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cloudedtruth Enthusiast

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I'm no papyrus expert but I can tell you that the first part of the log is normal, all those "does not exist or isn't currently loaded" errors will not cause issues as long as those plugins are not required.

 

Random CTDs are often caused by lack of memory, or sometimes due to mod conflicts.

For the memory, do you have the skse.ini file setup?

For the mods, what jumps out right away to me is that you're using Immersive Citizens with a known incompatible mod, JK's Skyrim.

Also mods like Immersive Patrols and Equipping Overhaul can sometimes be the cause of problems due to conflicts with other mods. I don't use Random Alternate Start so I've got no idea in terms of placement in the load order, but I do know that Alternate Start - LAL does need to be placed at the very bottom, only above merges and patches, so I would worry that Random Alternate Start is up too high in the load order but again, I don't use it so I'm not sure.

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azrayl Newbie

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Sorry about the papyrus log, Just learned how to put it in a spoiler tag.

 

Can someone send me a link on how I need to setup my skse.ini file? Not sure if I have done that yet, unless one of the mods I have has already changed it.

 

I will try out the other recommendations, thank you!

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If you're using Mod Organizer follow the steps here to setup the skse.ini file.

 

If you're using NMM, navigate to the SKSE folder located at, Skyrim\Data\SKSE

If there is not a SKSE folder there, create one. Then open the SKSE folder and right-click and choose the option to create a new text document and name it, skse.ini

You may be prompted by windows about the file extension, just choose the option that confirms you want this extension for the file and don't let windows change it.

Make sure the new file is called skse.ini, and then open it up.

Now, copy and paste the following lines:

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256
Click save, and close the file. Launch Skyrim and see if this helps, and if you did not have this before then it most certainly fix CTD due to lack of memory (usually the random CTDs).
To ensure that this is working you can install Memory Blocks Log which will give a simple log file when you run the game that shows the memory allocation for the memory blocks.
If Block 1 has 512MB and Block 2 has 256MB then you've setup the skse.ini correctly.
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What cloudedtruth said - set up skse.ini and also ENBoost (instructions here: http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost#Recommendations). If the crashing is random it's quite likely to be a memory problem which this will hopefully fix.

I didn't look at your load order, but if what megagekleezy said was true, then you may be interested in Weather and Ambience Overhaul: It'll make CoT work with all other weather mods and SoS and other mods as well. Read the description and installation instructions carefully. I use it in my own game and the effect is quite impressive. So many new weather varieties and the colors and everything work perfectly together!

If you're up for some more complex conflict resolution, look up some guides for how to do conflict resolution in TES5edit. Basically, if you have two mods you think might conflict (which could be leading to random crashes) you can load them in TES5edit and compare them against each other. If they do indeed conflict, you can either manually make a patch for them or see if a patch is already available. I often load up my entire load order in TES5edit so that I can make informed decisions as to editing my load order. LOOT is a good first pass but it doesn't do the job perfectly, especially if you have more than 100 mods or mods that conflict heavily.

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vram1974 Experienced

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Random CTDs are not normal as some other people have stated. It's an indication you aren't optimizing your setup.

 

CTD can be caused by many issues:

 

1. Missing latest SKSE and memory patch

2. Incorrect use of ENB or lack of ENB

3. Too many high res textures for your video card

4. Improper or no cleaning of ITM records

5. Improper load order

6. Improper use of skeleton or FNIS

7. Improper use of uGridsToLoad

8. Changes to ini files

 

A properly maintained modded Skyrim should not crash except very rarely.

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