tropicop Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Good Afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen, I am experiencing a few problems, i know they are mod related but i can't pin point what i need to do. Problem : 1 - Skyrim crashes randomly, can be after 2h of fine gameplay, immediately after loading a save (the same save will load properly a second time), happens when i walk away from an npc, towards...etc point is there is no visible pattern that i can see. 2 - Every once and a while textures will be missing, pitch black bodies or ghostly white with normal heads on top, completely white iron armor in inventory... you know what i'm talking about. Things will go back to normal after loading a save. 3 - Some NPCs cannot be interacted with, no name, no crosshair nothing BUT they say their random phrase as i walk by them. My Desktop Computer (put together by yours truly) : Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit OSAMD FX - 8320 Eight-core CPU 3.50 GHz8 Gb RAMNvidia GeForce GTX 970 -> 4Gb video card ram Game Location : C:\Program Files (x86)\Frilicky Frolocker\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim("Frilicky Frolocker" is my video game installing file came up with it when i was 12 don't laugh) It is a steam game so latest version with all DLCs. I use NMM as mod installer, also LOOT, TES5Edit, and Wrye Bash Patch, SKSE 1.7.3 (I watched Gopher and GamerPoets videos for installation and use) Random Info : I use ASIS.jar patcher Also using the skyrim memory patch as explained in Gopher's (love that guy) SMS 84 and when the game crashes i'm often below the 256 blocks used as reported in the "MemoryBlocksLog" 0 0 Skyrim.esm1 1 Update.esm2 2 Dawnguard.esm3 3 HearthFires.esm4 4 Dragonborn.esm5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm7 7 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm8 8 JSwords.esm9 9 Campfire.esm10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp15 f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp16 10 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp17 11 SkyUI.esp18 12 iHUD.esp19 13 Better Dynamic Snow.esp20 14 SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp21 15 SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp22 16 RelightingSkyrim.esp23 17 RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp24 18 CLARALUX.esp25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp26 1a Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp27 1b SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp28 1c RealisticWaterTwo.esp29 1d RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp31 1f RealShelter.esp32 20 SoS - The Wilds.esp33 21 SoS - Civilization.esp34 22 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp35 23 SoS - The Dungeons.esp36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp37 25 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp38 26 Immersive Weapons.esp39 27 High Level Enemies.esp40 28 Cloaks.esp41 29 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp42 2a RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp44 2c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp45 2d WetandCold.esp46 2e WetandCold - Ashes.esp47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp49 31 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp50 32 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp51 33 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp52 34 1nivWICCloaks.esp53 35 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp54 36 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp55 37 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp56 38 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp57 39 Duel - Combat Realism.esp58 3a Magicka Sabers.esp59 3b Convenient Horses.esp60 3c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp61 3d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp62 3e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp63 3f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp64 40 AMatterOfTime.esp65 41 BetterQuestObjectives.esp66 42 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp67 43 CCF_RND_Patch.esp68 44 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp69 45 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp70 46 Diseased.esp71 47 Diseased Droops Medicine.esp72 48 Extended UI.esp73 49 ACE Enchanting.esp74 4a ACE Archery.esp75 4b RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp76 4c SMIM-Merged-All.esp77 4d Atlas Legendary.esp78 4e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp79 4f SFO - Dragonborn.esp80 50 ACE Melee.esp81 51 Frostfall.esp82 52 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp83 53 RND_AnimalLoot.esp84 54 ACE Smithing.esp85 55 ACE Armor.esp86 56 Hunterborn.esp87 57 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp88 58 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp89 59 ACE Speech.esp90 5a BorderSense.esp91 5b ACE Synergy.esp92 5c ACE BYOG.esp93 5d ACE Magic.esp94 5e ACE Realistic Fighting.esp95 5f RSPatch.esp96 60 Supreme Storms.esp97 61 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp98 62 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.espComplete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp101 65 TES5Merged.esp102 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp103 67 ASIS-Dependency.esp104 68 ASIS.esp So i believe this concludes my SOS (not sounds of skyrim XD)Thank you in advance for those who will try and help and a nice day to those who won't. Tropicop Edited November 24, 2015 by tropicop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertaquito Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Huh, sounds like an issue I used to have, don't mean to cause any type of "SHUT UP, DAMN SHILL" replies from anybody lol.. but I had those issues back when I had an AMD system, of course I had a lesser CPU and an R9 280X. I'd lose and have horrible texture glitching, black or purple models after some playtime, of course it would go away after reloading, sometimes restarting the game would fix it as well. The only fix I found was to use a less demanding ENB which still supported ENBoos and disable some of the effects. At the end it turned out to be an issue with the GPU as I had to RMA it and got a newer revision, but I got a lot of skyrim headaches related to my hardware before switching to Intel. (Didn't even switch for skyrim, my line of business required me to have a more powerful processing power) ANYWHO, if you don't believe this is hardware related, it might as well be related to your load order, it is all over the place. I learned that LOOT sets you in the right path to sort your mods, but nothing beats sorting it out yourself, that would be your first step here. Start by sorting your mods in Word, for example, and make clusters of matching mods. What I did was assign different colors to different mod types (Orange font for texture mods, green for environment mods, blue for mods which add items, etc) and then organize each cluster keeping in mind their dependable master files. I have included my load order below as an example.GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1notice board.esp=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp=1TAZ_killcamtweak.esp=1ArrowDuration300.esp=1towConversation.esp=1DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1NonEssentialChildren.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1SaveHotKeyMCM.esp=1PalistovSpinningArrows.esp=1Extended UI.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1iHUD.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1Beards.esp=1ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1Bijin Wives.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1Height Adjusted Races.esp=1EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1RSChildren - Complete.esp=1VariedGuards.esp=1About horses 1.5.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1RealisticRoomRental.esp=1JKs Skyrim.esp=1RealShelter.esp=1SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp=1RBB Large Boats.esp=1RBB Long Boats.esp=1RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp=1RBB Row Boats.esp=1RBB Long Boats - NSUtR.esp=1RBB Long Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RBB Row Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RBB Row Boats - NSUtR.esp=1RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp=1SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp=1SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1RiversideLodge.esp=1flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp=1CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1More_Saddles.esp=1ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1Cleric Armours - Credo.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1mancika_templarset.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1isilNarsil.esp=1Differently Ebony.esp=1DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=13DNPC.esp=1GR123 Knights Templar.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Birdsofskyrim.esp=1BirdsHFclean.esp=1skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1Smoking Torches.esp=1dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1Real Roads.esp=1Weathered Road Signs.esp=1Signs_of_Skyrim.esp=1SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp=1SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp=1SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp=1SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp=183Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp=1CinematicFireFX.esp=1Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1IHSS.esp=1Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1VioLens.esp=1Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1RealShelterFF.esp=1Equipping Overhaul.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1BetterHunting2.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp=1WondersofWeather.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1TrueStorms.esp=1Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1ELFXEnhancer.esp=1RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1PalistovSpinningArrows_Dawnguard.esp=1PalistovSpinningArrows_CloserQuiversLongerArrows.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp=1USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp=1Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp=1Height Adjusted Races - True Giants and Mammoths.esp=1RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp=1RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1RSChildren_PatchHeightAdjustedRaces.esp=1PerMa_USKP master patch.esp=1PerMa_Survivalism.esp=1Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1MovementSpeedsFixed.esp=1RSPatch.esp=1Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp=1Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp=1Automatic Variants.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1PatchusMaximus.esp=1 I was told to start with weather mods and lightning mods as a base, and set them low in the load order, but before any patches. It took a while, but it did give me a very stable game, a small FPS boost, and a noticeable change of visuals. The only issues I've had are caused by me it seems :P.Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropicop Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hey, (sorry haven't answered sooner, juggling two jobs and school) So i see what you mean but i dont see how to apply that to my load order. A few of these mods shouldn't be moved. So i would really not know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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