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Good Afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

I am experiencing a few problems, i know they are mod related but i can't pin point what i need to do.

 

Problem : 1 - Skyrim crashes randomly, can be after 2h of fine gameplay, immediately after loading a save (the same save will load properly a second time), happens when i walk away from an npc, towards...etc point is there is no visible pattern that i can see.

 

2 - Every once and a while textures will be missing, pitch black bodies or ghostly white with normal heads on top, completely white iron armor in inventory... you know what i'm talking about. Things will go back to normal after loading a save.

 

3 - Some NPCs cannot be interacted with, no name, no crosshair nothing BUT they say their random phrase as i walk by them.

 

My Desktop Computer (put together by yours truly) :

 

Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit OS

AMD FX - 8320 Eight-core CPU 3.50 GHz

8 Gb RAM

Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 -> 4Gb video card ram

 

Game Location :

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\Frilicky Frolocker\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim

("Frilicky Frolocker" is my video game installing file came up with it when i was 12 don't laugh)

 

It is a steam game so latest version with all DLCs.

 

I use NMM as mod installer, also LOOT, TES5Edit, and Wrye Bash Patch, SKSE 1.7.3 (I watched Gopher and GamerPoets videos for installation and use)

 

Random Info :

 

I use ASIS.jar patcher

 

Also using the skyrim memory patch as explained in Gopher's (love that guy) SMS 84 and when the game crashes i'm often below the 256 blocks used as reported in the "MemoryBlocksLog"

 

 

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
7 7 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
8 8 JSwords.esm
9 9 Campfire.esm
10 a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
11 b HighResTexturePack01.esp
12 c HighResTexturePack02.esp
13 d HighResTexturePack03.esp
14 e Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
15 f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
16 10 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
17 11 SkyUI.esp
18 12 iHUD.esp
19 13 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
20 14 SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp
21 15 SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp
22 16 RelightingSkyrim.esp
23 17 RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp
24 18 CLARALUX.esp
25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
26 1a Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
27 1b SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp
28 1c RealisticWaterTwo.esp
29 1d RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp
30 1e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
31 1f RealShelter.esp
32 20 SoS - The Wilds.esp
33 21 SoS - Civilization.esp
34 22 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
35 23 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
36 24 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
37 25 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
38 26 Immersive Weapons.esp
39 27 High Level Enemies.esp
40 28 Cloaks.esp
41 29 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
42 2a RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
43 2b ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
44 2c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
45 2d WetandCold.esp
46 2e WetandCold - Ashes.esp
47 2f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp
49 31 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp
50 32 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
51 33 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
52 34 1nivWICCloaks.esp
53 35 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
54 36 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
55 37 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
56 38 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
57 39 Duel - Combat Realism.esp
58 3a Magicka Sabers.esp
59 3b Convenient Horses.esp
60 3c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
61 3d Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
62 3e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
63 3f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
64 40 AMatterOfTime.esp
65 41 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
66 42 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
67 43 CCF_RND_Patch.esp
68 44 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
69 45 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
70 46 Diseased.esp
71 47 Diseased Droops Medicine.esp
72 48 Extended UI.esp
73 49 ACE Enchanting.esp
74 4a ACE Archery.esp
75 4b RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp
76 4c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
77 4d Atlas Legendary.esp
78 4e Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
79 4f SFO - Dragonborn.esp
80 50 ACE Melee.esp
81 51 Frostfall.esp
82 52 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
83 53 RND_AnimalLoot.esp
84 54 ACE Smithing.esp
85 55 ACE Armor.esp
86 56 Hunterborn.esp
87 57 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
88 58 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
89 59 ACE Speech.esp
90 5a BorderSense.esp
91 5b ACE Synergy.esp
92 5c ACE BYOG.esp
93 5d ACE Magic.esp
94 5e ACE Realistic Fighting.esp
95 5f RSPatch.esp
96 60 Supreme Storms.esp
97 61 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
98 62 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
99 63 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
100 64 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
101 65 TES5Merged.esp
102 66 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
103 67 ASIS-Dependency.esp
104 68 ASIS.esp

 

 

So i believe this concludes my SOS (not sounds of skyrim XD)

Thank you in advance for those who will try and help and a nice day to those who won't.

 

Tropicop

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Huh, sounds like an issue I used to have, don't mean to cause any type of "SHUT UP, DAMN SHILL" replies from anybody lol.. but I had those issues back when I had an AMD system, of course I had a lesser CPU and an R9 280X.

I'd lose and have horrible texture glitching, black or purple models after some playtime, of course it would go away after reloading, sometimes restarting the game would fix it as well. The only fix I found was to use a less demanding ENB which still supported ENBoos and disable some of the effects. At the end it turned out to be an issue with the GPU as I had to RMA it and got a newer revision, but I got a lot of skyrim headaches related to my hardware before switching to Intel. (Didn't even switch for skyrim, my line of business required me to have a more powerful processing power)

ANYWHO, if you don't believe this is hardware related, it might as well be related to your load order, it is all over the place. I learned that LOOT sets you in the right path to sort your mods, but nothing beats sorting it out yourself, that would be your first step here. Start by sorting your mods in Word, for example, and make clusters of matching mods.

What I did was assign different colors to different mod types (Orange font for texture mods, green for environment mods, blue for mods which add items, etc) and then organize each cluster keeping in mind their dependable master files. I have included my load order below as an example.

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Falskaar.esm=1
Wyrmstooth.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
notice board.esp=1
MagicDuelReborn.esm=1
RSkyrimChildren.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp=1
TAZ_killcamtweak.esp=1
ArrowDuration300.esp=1
towConversation.esp=1
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1
No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
NonEssentialChildren.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1
SaveHotKeyMCM.esp=1
PalistovSpinningArrows.esp=1
Extended UI.esp=1
AMatterOfTime.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1
iHUD.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp=1
Bijin Wives.esp=1
Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1
Height Adjusted Races.esp=1
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1
RSChildren - Complete.esp=1
VariedGuards.esp=1
About horses 1.5.esp=1
fallentreebridges.esp=1
RealisticRoomRental.esp=1
JKs Skyrim.esp=1
RealShelter.esp=1
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp=1
RBB Large Boats.esp=1
RBB Long Boats.esp=1
RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp=1
RBB Row Boats.esp=1
RBB Long Boats - NSUtR.esp=1
RBB Long Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
RBB Row Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
RBB Row Boats - NSUtR.esp=1
RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp=1
SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1
RiversideLodge.esp=1
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp=1
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=1
More_Saddles.esp=1
ArmorOfIntrigue.esp=1
Cleric Armours - Credo.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
mancika_templarset.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
isilNarsil.esp=1
Differently Ebony.esp=1
DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp=1
DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
Throwing_Weapons_Redux.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
GR123 Knights Templar.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Birdsofskyrim.esp=1
BirdsHFclean.esp=1
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
Smoking Torches.esp=1
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1
Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1
Real Roads.esp=1
Weathered Road Signs.esp=1
Signs_of_Skyrim.esp=1
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp=1
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp=1
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp=1
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp=1
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp=1
CinematicFireFX.esp=1
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1
IHSS.esp=1
Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp=1
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1
VioLens.esp=1
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
RealShelterFF.esp=1
Equipping Overhaul.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
BetterHunting2.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp=1
WondersofWeather.esp=1
mintylightningmod.esp=1
TrueStorms.esp=1
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-Vanilla.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1
TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1
PalistovSpinningArrows_Dawnguard.esp=1
PalistovSpinningArrows_CloserQuiversLongerArrows.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp=1
USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp=1
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp=1
Height Adjusted Races - True Giants and Mammoths.esp=1
RSChildren_PatchNEC.esp=1
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1
RSChildren_PatchHeightAdjustedRaces.esp=1
PerMa_USKP master patch.esp=1
PerMa_Survivalism.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1
MovementSpeedsFixed.esp=1
RSPatch.esp=1
Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp=1
Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp=1
Automatic Variants.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
PatchusMaximus.esp=1

 

 

I was told to start with weather mods and lightning mods as a base, and set them low in the load order, but before any patches. It took a while, but it did give me a very stable game, a small FPS boost, and a noticeable change of visuals. The only issues I've had are caused by me it seems :P.

Hope that helps!

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Hey, (sorry haven't answered sooner, juggling two jobs and school)

 

So i see what you mean but i dont see how to apply that to my load order. A few of these mods shouldn't be moved. So i would really not know where to start.

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