RandomGamerFromSkyrim Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Hi, I'm new here and I don't usually post in forums so I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to post this or someone had already posted this kind of problem/request and the issue was solved. I've read the pinned post (how to ask for help) before and did a lot of things to correct my problem but nothing worked. :confused: So, here it is: I downloaded a lot of mods from Steam Workshop (showing 684 on SW and around 550 on NMM & LOOT). When I downloaded them I checked to see if they'll conflict with other mods or not (no problems there) but I did not think about the load order. I thought any mod manager will fix the load order when I'm done collecting mods for my game. :blush: My game was looking awesome when I had.. maybe 250 mods, I really can't remember this, so I can't tell you when the problems started to show up. Then when I was done subscribing to all the mods I wanted, I started the game and it wasn't the same as it was before. I'm in whiterun and there was a lot of objects in there but now all of them are missing. It had a lot of trees, insects, bee hive and really awesome textures... or graphics, I don't know, because I have some mods that adds better textures and some mods that tweaks some graphics settings (brightness, contrast, hue, saturation etc.) to make the game look good. Anyway, every city in Skyrim had a lot of new objects and everything looked almost like real life. And now all of them are gone... :sad: I know only two things about load order: .esm should be on top of .esp and main mod should be above and add-on or fixes. :wacko: I tried using BOSS, LOOT and NMM to correct the load order but nothing made the game perfect. I can't see any errors/missing content on any mod managers but the game is just not perfect, it looks worse than vanilla Skyrim. And most/all of my previous content are not showing up (new quests, a lot of new objects/locations and of course, the glorious look). I tried some tools to detect conflicts but nothing worked. :wallbash: I want someone to give me a perfect load order, I know it'll be a lot of hard work because there are a ton of mods listed bellow. Please take your time. I just wanted to make my game look like almost all the other gamer's... :sick: Here's what I want my game to be like, if you can, please change the load order to match these. #1 means that comes first no matter whatever mod conflicts with it, if anything is causing problems with that, remove it. Did you get the pattern? For example: if #10 is causing problems with #3, remove all of the mods that are related to the description of #10. :wacko: 1. Bring back all of the objects (not houses or NPCs), some mods there adds a lot of new things in all parts of Skyrim. I want that mod that adds moving flowers (very real looking) and the one that adds some beehives throughout Skyrim and lastly, there's mod there that adds more animals (not new but it'd be great if you can add that too. Everything is listed somewhere in there). 2. Make the overall game look awesome again, including the weather (better snow, rain, sun, two moons(?) and lightning/storm effects). ughh... my game was really great, better looking than any current-gen games I have. 3. Make the NPCs look good again (face, body, cloths). 4. Bring back as many new dungeons/quests as you can. Houses are not important. 5. Want that new play-style. Some (or 1) mod there changes the AI behavior and makes the fights harder for all the enemies and dragons too, it can take a few minutes to kill a dragon. 6. Add new enemies in the game. Some mods add enemies and some replaces existing textures, if you can, add the texture mod first and then new enemies, if that causes conflicts, remove the new enemies mod (includes new dragons too). 7. Bring back all the new weapons, armors and new powers (spells, shout cool-down mods, perk points and leveling mechanism etc.). 8. Add as many new followers and NPCs as possible. 9. Add new texture mods for foods, ingredients and potions (there are several mods listed for each category). 10. Add all the houses if possible only if that doesn't cause conflict with any other mods. After all that, try to add everything that doesn't cause any conflicts with them. Houses aren't important so if anything causes conflict with any new house mods, remove that house mod first. :psyduck: That'd be all, I can't say enough thanks to the person that actually does all this work for a stranger. :yes: Here's my current load order, you can also find a copy of it here: http://pastebin.com/PnbhxN1f. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooth.esp ApachiiHair.esm Extra Encounters Reborn - Basic.esm TKChildren.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp TouringCarriages.esp betterfemalesbybella.esp betterfemalesbybellamakeup4.esp earth.esp projectpew.esp fortheljarchen.esp fortwinstad.esp datgrass .esp cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp mintylightningmod.esp mintylightningmod_cot_patch.esp enhanced soundtrack 02.esp enhanced soundtrack 01.esp ts_malukah.esp 3DNPC.esp orc stronghold grommash v1.00.esp trueskyrim.esp realistic lighting.esp Helsmyrr.esp Bandit Docks.esp alternativelightingv2.esp 1k_dds_bloodenhanced.esp 1k_dds_landscape.esp 1k_dds_landscapewstm.esp 1k_dds_nif_naturalskin.esp 1k_dds_nif_naturalskindark.esp 1k_dds_nif_vurts-flora-overhaul.esp 1k_dds_shrubs.esp dbtenetsrestored13-1024.esp hectrol caves deluxe highres retex 2k version.esp high res hawk replacement - red.esp better embers.esp hobbithouse.esp birdshf.esp dangerousgame.esp guard dialogue overhaul.esp divinepunishmentforarrowstotheknee.esp earlier health warnings.esp hdplants+herbs.esp hqsnow.esp lockpickpro.esp milkywaygalaxy.esp moregrass.esp poshmudcrabs.esp psychosteve_bust of the gray fox.esp psychosteve_stone of barenziah.esp real glaciers v2.esp real mountains.esp realisticskinningdawnguard.esp realisticskinningdragonborn.esp whistle.esp AdventurersAndTravelers.esp apex werewolf.esp cyandaedricarmor.esp daedricassassinarmorlight.esp elderrobes.esp lilithsarmor.esp lilithscarver1_0.esp lilithsdoombringer.esp lilithseviscerator.esp lilithsharbinger.esp lilithsobliterator1_0.esp lilithssickle_2_0.esp lilithsthorn.esp purpledaedricarmor.esp thanatos dragonx.esp ts_rogueoutfits.esp erso 30 - better enemy ai.esp beyond_skyrim.esp lanterns of skyrim - all in one.esp betterinns.esp nightingalehall.esp s7osuitesofskyrim.esp sos - the wilds.esp betterdarkbrotherhood.esp ebonvale.esp falkreath+.esp sos - civilization.esp test house.esp bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp Broken_Blade.esp efpwizardry.esp Dragon Born Castle.esp Castle Riverwood.esp helgenrebuilt.esp sos - the dungeons.esp bosmerarmormaty743part1.esp bosmerarmormaty743part2.esp bosmerarmormaty743part3.esp bosmerarmormaty743part4.esp hearthfiremultikid.esp lightweight potions and poisons.esp moonandstar_mas.esp sjel blad castle.esp Training Dummies & Targets - Falskaar Edition.esp detailed cities.esp marriagemod - alpha v3.esp remove interior fog v2 - skyrim.esp waves.esp skyrim in color.esp morninghood manor.esp sutvaka2.esp WATER.esp archerydummyxp.esp bettermorthal.esp gleaming falls.esp townsandcitiesenhanced.esp theaviary.esp akavir_isle.esp betteranimals.esp zx eyes (alt vamp) v1.0.esp zx eyes v1.0 (bright eye ver.).esp riverwood flora.esp morevillageanimals.esp old arena.esp thefrontier.esp genebristreasurechests.esp s7oIrontreeMill.esp War With The Aldmeri Dominion - Invasion of Solstheim.esp solstheim castle.esp longbows.esp dragonmourninn.esp the asteria - dwemer airship.esp boner.esp Pedscampoffollowers.esp moarjewels.esp Run For Your Lives.esp quest_thebiggertheyare.esp schnorf'steleportbuttons.esp black hand embassy.esp skyex.esp breezehomelightfix.esp dovahkiin_mountain_retreat.esp wieldablelantern.esp tk_placeable_clutter.esp tos_oakwood.esp thedomain.esp betterravenrock.esp wolveofsolstheimwb.esp s7oDonkeyKing.esp markarth_plus.esp s7oLundAndLambda.esp more enemies.esp adalmatar.esp s7oasforarrow.esp arrowsmith-dawnguard.esp underwater_treasure.esp dragonnests.esp quest_nomercy.esp pureweather_brighter nights.esp realraincot.esp quest into the depth.esp gleaming falls reborn.esp trainers guild v10.0.esp pinewoods cottage.esp craftable soulgems.esp 03_solstheim_extendend.esp gkbforest.esp StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp multifollowerlite.esp elvenwood.esp nagas'cavern.esp new morthal.esp tos_amber_guard.esp immersive patrols ii.esp Extra Encounters Reborn - CSP.esp tos_laintardale_hf.esp new ravenrock.esp a shack by the springs.esp improved final battle.esp tos_oakwood_hf.esp thane weapons improved.esp quest_seaofghosts.esp cohm.esp miraak's loot enhanced - robes edition.esp 02_solstheim_extended.esp the dragonguard.esp adragoniustower.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp bleedeffects.esp ImprovedFollowers.esp s7oBarleydarkFarm.esp better raven rock.esp tos_laintardale.esp staff of magnus improved.esp dragonsoulstoperks.esp jman_bb2.esp riverwoodhuntingcabin.esp longbowsdg.esp better_fast_travel.esp lanterns of skyrim - bridges x2 - onoff_bright.esp betterdawnstar.esp the cathedral.esp unremarkable cave.esp test quest.esp 1K_DDS_Whiterun.esp falskaar amber cottage.esp bettermarkarthexterieur.esp ridgeview house.esp betterquestobjectives.esp aetherial crown improved.esp drunken goat inn.esp tos_granitehall.esp s7otheshadynag.esp a_dragons_respect.esp TGenhanced.esp betterfire.esp custom family home.esp inigo.esp visageofmzund.esp cleo_farm.esp more critters.esp lanterns of skyrim - around cities_bright.esp tavevillages.esp whiteruninenhanced.esp the tool of the gray fox quest.esp collectiblexarxes.esp dungeonquestawareness.esp IC_MOD_M7001.esp housecat.esp hearthfiresenhanced.esp jkjsenhancedhotpools.esp quest_pitfighter.esp the myth of naraag.esp sofiafollower.esp fortressofbasalt.esp provincial courier service.esp s7oChickenFix.esp communitycollege.esp quest_sorcery.esp ForgottenCity.esp follower pack iii.esp enhancedlightingforrealisticlighting.esp amuletsofthedivines.esp montyximperialset.esp pathofthedivine.esp quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp bettercitiesnewfarm.esp whiterunexenhanced.esp riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp bettercitiesmorebees.esp dbrdragonfix.esp newplaceddawnguard.esp taveriften.esp ThroatOfTheWorldDeathDive.esp realisticskinning.esp Detailed Towns.esp TownsandVillagesEnhancedProAlpha.esp skyvale001m701.esp betterwinterhold.esp khajiitcampsfalskaar.esp overlord.esp When Vampires Attack.esp wyrmstoothtravelcrashhotfix.esp arrows fly forever.esp chillrend improved.esp dynamic fires.esp faster vanilla horses.esp matsoimmersivesun.esp more dragons.esp nightingale_armor_tweak.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ultimatedurnehviir.esp ultimateodahviing.esp unreadbooksglow.esp tavesolitude.esp tavewindhelm.esp surreal lighting.esp saturationboost.esp climatesoftamriel.esp vampiresightnoblur.esp conjuration pack i.esp Kamehameha.esp tacticalanalysisspell.esp toggleallymortalityspell.esp sheogorath_shout.esp stronger daedric artifacts.esp empower.esp HeartBreaker.esp azarhair.esp brows.esp flanseyesforskrim.esp slightly reduced npc greetings.esp blaze of eventide.esp followerwander2.esp essential blades.esp followerwander2serana.esp nocarlinventory.esp xce.esp dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp zx hands.esp purewaters.esp arvakskull-marker.esp barenziahquestmarkers.esp impatienceofasaint-markers.esp UsefulDogs.esp vampire lycanthropy potions.esp vampire lord potion.esp a quality world map - with roads.esp deathwing inspired alduin reloaded.esp DragonPriestNyeeaah.esp Forsworn helmet variety.esp fuuu.esp loadscreensarcasmDLC.esp loadscreentextsextrasass.esp NewLoadingScreens.esp realistic paper.esp realistic piercing arrows.esp Skeleton Attack Sounds.esp smfsneak attack.esp Training.esp Voldemort_Hehehe.esp brat_richer_merchants_sp0.esp caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp divinejudgementonoverzealousguards.esp lightweight_ingots_and_ores.esp lovelyhairstylesce.esp moonandstar_immersionpatch.esp Sexy Flora and Fauna Mod.esp Sexy Lighting Mod.esp Sexy Npc Faces.esp Sexy Weapons Mod.esp simpledivorce.esp 0K_CWMapFlags.esp ArgonianMaidSkillBook.esp dancewithdragonsmainmenuancient.esp empty-knights-2.esp hectrol_dwarven_shield_deluxe_hr_retex_4k.esp improved wooden sword for hearthfire.esp less tedious theives guild.esp lilithsblacksunarmor.esp lilithsDevastator.esp lilithseyeofchaos.esp lilithsLacerator.esp montyxnightingaleset.esp mxgandalfset.esp mxfasterhorses.esp montyxstormcloakset.esp nettlebane improved.esp newblue.esp purifier.esp RealisticFunctionalBoats.esp rrhair.esp rrhairargonian.esp rrhairkhajiit.esp SOYE.esp wehrwolfmann's beautiful nude girls.esp true magic armor vfx.esp wilhelmscreammod.esp zxmap(impmap).esp reduced shout cooldowns.esp surprise.esp mysolstheimpeopleprotected!.esp SkyrimWeatherBeautification.esp Dawnguard Vampire FIx.esp serana1.esp set_werewolves_sp0.esp Extra Encounters Reborn - HSR.esp craftingplus.esp hordewlodgemapmarkerfalskaar.esp chromaticdragons.esp ogDiverseDragons.esp ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp alessia_revision.esp DragonPunishmentForCloudDistrict.esp ancient helms improved.esp hallsofdovahndor.esp bee.esp mages room.esp wamroombanneroverbed.esp regnpiercings.esp mzarkwonders.esp armored-horses.esp PedsSummonMerchant.esp lookout.esp newplacehermaeusshrine.esp into the deep.esp rabbithole.esp s7oTheHumblestHut.esp blade of woe improved.esp follower pack ii.esp gifts of the outsider.esp s7oSmackTheSmith.esp longbowsdb.esp longbows&crossbows.esp efpbandits.esp craftableclothes.esp daedriccrossbow.esp viceroyinquisitor.esp mu.esp detailed outskirts.esp okains.esp gersonia.esp tavefalkreath.esp fasterlevelling.esp ridingdirty.esp enchantthreeeffects.esp moresmeltables.esp megalodondragon.esp FSFAR.esp truedragonborn.esp moreargoniantints.esp WarriorPrincess.esp dragonpriestmaskquestmarkers.esp alphaminifixes - dragonborn standing stones.esp thebardsquest.esp realmofthewanglord.esp talosstbp.1.esp keeleewolf-runner.esp montyxthievesguildset.esp 1k_dds_riften.esp replace your criminal face.esp smakit_house_markers.esp blackmarketv2.esp follower pack i.esp nalliafollower.esp marchanditinerant.esp modruby.esp eowyn.esp paula_follower.esp souljemmerchant.esp modcaesar.esp modelenay.esp modorgok.esp modxveyl.esp arena_of_the_undead_by_fpsquadrasnipar.esp enhancedhighhrothgarbymat.esp s7oYzmirsBeard.esp bloodskal blade improved.esp white phial improved.esp CrimsonDragonArmors.esp PedsAutumnHome.esp shadowmarks.esp ktxcompleteskyforge.esp gauldur amulet improved.esp tbmchrysamere.esp oblivion gates in cities.esp mega mammoth.esp dragonborndockmarkers.esp moonandstar_undeath_compat.esp montyxbanditset.esp auryn.esp PedsPlayerHFManakins.esp PedsPlayerMaleManakins.esp glassarmorrc.esp gildergreen regrown.esp hg.esp realisticskoomamodv1.esp longbowsperks.esp ff_fantasyfollowers.esp s7oVanWatch.esp fieldlab.esp snenorastrongheart.esp naomi a gothic follower.esp follower map marker-beacon version.esp graesholt - arthurian easter eggs improved.esp s7oCacheSacks.esp werewolvesofskyrim.esp LeonorVigilantStendarr.esp shockssaltminesofskyrim.esp Dragon Born Castle Kids.esp JRCostaHFBards.esp Extra Encounters Reborn - Dawnguard.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp modisabela.esp modsusan.esp restoration_spell resurrect.esp tauriel.esp abadassbabe.esp private_nokillblur_test.esp duckmod.esp medusa armor.esp mxschadenfreude.esp 00bettyboop.esp mxdemonicarmoredhorse.esp mxaequitas.esp mxbluehorse.esp mxsvaoilfari.esp mxthunderdasharmored.esp s7oSit.esp mxdemonichorse.esp mxgullfaxi.esp mxharith.esp mxorangehorseoffire.esp mxrainbowdash.esp mxskinfaxi&hrimfaxi.esp pinkiepie.esp moredragonloot.esp mxruin.esp mxskeletalfrostmane.esp disintegratingaxe.esp cicerodistancefix.esp katia.esp mx4hotaa.esp wyrmstoothmapmarkerhotfix.esp Mega Mudcrab.esp montyxdg4hota.esp mx4hota.esp mxbloodfiendmane.esp mxsiphan.esp mxskeletalschadenfreude.esp mxskeletalsvaoilfari.esp lilithsdisemboweler.esp lilithsslayer.esp 0k_interface.esp 2k_dds_carnivores.esp 2k_dds_elementals.esp 420_torch it.esp archetypechest.esp giantess.esp modashlynrosesnowshimmer.esp modbaileysnowshimmer.esp modcalebryansnowshimmer.esp modivysnowshimmer.esp modbrogangracesnowshimmer.esp modsaigecamillesnowshimmer.esp TKChildren_V.esp Cute Babette.esp cyrodiilic_dwarvenarmors_by_dog.esp decapitationgore texture replacer.esp dogssilverarmor.esp dragonchewtoy.esp dragonpriestmasks_db.esp elegant hands improved.esp follower riddick werebear.esp nocommentstupiddog.esp PedsFxWeapons.esp psiijicsilverblue.esp realebonyarmory.esp TKChildren_HF.esp reeve.esp sangreal.esp scaled bracers fix.esp spells fly forever.esp tf2heavyeating.esp undesperatehousewifelydia.esp childskeletonfix.esp TKChildren+3DNPC.esp TKChildren_DB.espWhen you're done experimenting with these and got it as close as possible to the game I wanted to play, please copy-paste the new load order in the comments or upload it in any website of your choice and post the download link. :smile: If someone wants to offer any advise to do this on my own, please explain in as much as you can on how to do it. I already know how to change load order, I just don't know what mods to put above or under another mod to make them all work correctly. I've watched hours of tutorial on YouTube and read a lot of guides to do this, so I don't think any advise can penetrate my skull armor and go inside my brain so that I can do all this work on my own but do try. :facepalm: My internet connection is very slow and I have to pay a lot for the data pack. As you can imagine, I've spent a lot of money for the internet to download all of these mods, so please, anyone, help me to use as many of them as possible. I've spent more money in downloading the mods than I spent buying the whole TES collection. :ohdear: (Not important) Little story behind it all for anyone who is interested in reading it: I've been playing Skyrim for a quite some time. Before Skyrim I had only played one RPG game (Darksiders 2), the game was good but I never liked any RPG games. One day I was purchasing games online and saw The Elder Scrolls: Anthology and Talos guided me to clicked the 'add to cart' button. I did not use console commands or any mods because I thought it would be cheating. I even walked 7000 steps while over encumbered, then my game crashed and I had to start walking again from that bridge. I first broke the rules of playing without "cheating" to complete the last achievement "Legend", defeat a legendary dragon. Then I started experimenting with console commands. And after a few days, discovered the world of Mods. :woot: Now I'm here! Many thanks to anyone who has read this and is going to comment to guide me so that I can do it myself (75% chance is I can not). I don't know what to say or do to show appreciation to the person who actually accepts my request and does all this work for me. Sorry for any errors in the post, my English is not that good. :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsharaMeradin Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I doubt anyone is going to do this work for you. Good luck tho.... That said, you have 555 ESP and ESM files. The game will only support 255 in total (including base & DLC), technically 254 because it reserves hex FF (255) for in-game created references. So the reason your game looks like crap is that you've over burdened the game and its only loading up to a limit before crapping out. You need to cut back on the number of ESP/ESM files. You may be able to merge some, but I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGamerFromSkyrim Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'll try some tools to merge some of them, probably wouldn't be able to do it but will try of course. I'll also search for something to remove that limit although a few search results on google made it clear that it isn't possible. Thanks for your reply! :blush: To anyone who wants to give it a try: Try to add anything that matches my description on from #1 to #10. If it anything exceeds the limit, remove any mods of your choice (the ones you think isn't worth keeping) from #10. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4nik8tor Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." - Maimonides Here's how to do it yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h-SkZK-Tts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGamerFromSkyrim Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm using TES5Edit and xEdit Script to merge some plugins. :thumbsup: I've watched some long tutorials on YouTube on how to do it. I also ditched a lot of the mods and only picked the good ones to use (still 255+). I already merged a lot of the .esp files into one and they are working! I'll do it myself, it'll take a lot of time but I think I'll eventually make the perfect Skyrim for myself. :dance: It's fun and I'm learning something new on every step :tongue: maybe after all this, I'll try the Creation Kit. :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blattgeist Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Without taking a deep look at your mod list I'll just give you this advice. Try cutting down your mod list to 1/3 of what it is at the moment. Only keep mods that improve your gaming experience, fix bugs or deal with things that don't feel alright in the vanilla game. Think about it. Do you really need that 1 mod that adds a new weapon, armor or gives one of the merchants a beard? My general rules for sorting out mods are these:-script heavy, known for causing stability problems? --> out-abandoned by the mod author with major bugs left intact --> out-needs tons of compatiblity patches for other mods? --> out-takes away too much plugin space without providing a good amount of content? --> out-reverts many fixes of the Unofficial Skyrim Patches (USLEEP) --> out (I usually end up fixing these things with Tes5Edit if it's not too much work) And one more thing regarding merging plugins. I'd only merge those that are kinda small... and don't contain scripts. Also please make a documentation, where you write down which mods you merged, for later. Modding is science, Skyrim is easy to break :wink: Edited December 2, 2015 by blattgeist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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