Crazy and unusual problem, experienced modders help needed, plz !

[Kanirod]

Hi guys,

 

Edit: First sorry if the answer is not far, i looked a lot on different forum, im tired and angry, maybe i missed something..

 

Im the kind of guy that try to find solution by himself but this is driving me crazy since more days than i can tell and i resigned to implore your help.

Maybe the answer is simple and i will look stupid. Fine.

I will go directly into the problem and talk after.

I will try to be as factual as possible.

I think i know how CK work, i modded on all the elders scrolls, im not a great modder but i know how to add stuff, create stuff, i already did a lot of armor change, meshes replacement, edited leveled list etc..and everythings ever worked fine etc..

Before you give me some advices, know that i :

- Tried with fresh install

- Fresh install with only modded mod or with all mods.

- Made load order with loots and sometime adjusted what loot did.

- Made my few changes on existing mod. On authors mods. On patches. On new mod made from scratch.

- Looked for scripts running in vanilla.

- My skyrim isn't pirated.

- i did with and without bashed pash..

 

Still, nothing helped..

 

CONTEXT:

Im running a serious morrowlooted skyrim with static permazone so basically, no more enemies levelling with me. At lvl 1 i can encounter lvl 10 bandit and lvl 15 bandit boss or more.

What bother me is to see all bandit boss with steel plate armor. So i decided to change the Steel plate in some leveled list by a modified stats version of the nord hero armor from warmonger armory.

If you want to know exactly why, go directly at the end of the post i explain that here.

 

PROBLEM:

Armor replacement work only at first load then if i reload or start a new game, IT VANISH or become kind of invisible (not the invisible armor that can be fixed with bInvalidateOlderFiles=1). Parts of the armor are there but it just show the nude body. (Mesh/texture path is ok because the armor show in first test playthrough but then diseappear)

WORST: sometime if i re-open the mod in the CK, IT IS F*****G ERASED? WTF ??????? Not changed, not reversed, Erased!!

 

EXAMPLES AND RAGE..

 

Morrowloot Ultimate use warmonger armory.

I replaced the steelplate armor by one of the armor in warmonger armory in all leveled list related to banditboss.

I didn't add line in the leveled list, just changed the vanilla lines like this:

 

From:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_229149416.png

 

To:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_688656521.png

 

And if i take a bandit using this leveled list and click preview i see that:

 

http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_804461962.png

 

The armor show up normaly.

Then i save, close or not the CK,

And i go Ingame and spawn the guy with console, guess what? it work, the boss get the armor. Im happy and ready to go to the next edit or prepare my new playthrough.

 

BUT,

 

If i restart a new game or load my savegame or whatever ? everything vanish, and when i open the CK, to check what happened, it look like that:

 

(Surprise!!)

http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_603101804.png

 

And of course in game no more armor..deleted from the inventory.. but still in the leveled list like on the first picture..!!

And of course it's not a mesh problem as mentionned earlier because the path didn't changed and if it was showing at the first test, there is no reasons for it to change after..

 

But worst, sometime when i open the mod again to check, (this is the best part):

 

http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_803499315.png

 

(Rage mod ON)

SERIOUSLY? !!!!! WTF??? no,guys, please im going crazy, the s*** got directly edited in the mod..!! it's not as if it will be like that everytime, then i would guess some scripts or shits is doing it and i did wrong..

But seriously i never seen that in oblivion or morrowind.. I never seen a mod editing himself.. i changed tons of things in theses games, changed meshes and textures, made my owns armors mods, everythings was always fine..

 

So i supposed it's not the way to do with skyrim despite that i already made many successfull changes in this game and edited already so many mods to match my tastes.. Also, it was so simple in the previous elders scrolls, changed something, it worked. Add something into inventory? it show up.

 

Then i looked how some other mods were made.. hmm... customs leveled list?.. maybe that's it.. fair enough, let's do some new leveled list and outfit and replace the old ones or just add them without replacing... same results..

 

I tried doing the changes in the original warmonger mod, in the bashed patch, in morrowloot ultimate and his patches.. in a mod from scratch.. same issue everytime, even the original mod got the virus..i just don't want to play my skyrim like that and say F*** off i will play like this...

 

No seriously im getting crazy i really need your insights..PLEAAAASE tell me that im retard, that it's not how to do, that it's normal because of this and that..

 

For people curious of why i want to change that:

When in introduction i said that it bother me, it's because in a morrowlooted (morrowloot ultimate) version of skyrim (with or without static permazone) you always find Steelplate armor before any Orcish, Dwarven and elven armor.

Then all these armors are useless because the stats are better and the difference with orcish is so small that you don't even bother.

Also, i red somewhere (don't remenber) that steelplate armor is supposed to be a rare armor worn by nobles and great warriors. Im ok with that background but suddenly seeing every bandit boss wearing it past level 15 or just by using static perma bother me..

In Morrowloot ultimate, The nord hero armor from warmonger armory is a great looking armor but look like a steel armor with some fur and horns and is stats are greater than steelplate and equal if i remember of the nordic carved. I don't like that.

Ijust want to swap the 2 armors and reduce stats from the Nordic hero set just stronger than steel but lower than morrowloot dwarven. I don't want to totally replace steelplate as i still want to find it on great npc or named foes.

By doing that, the important gameplay change is that killing my first lvl 10+ bandit boss will not immediately give me an armor that i will only change for dragonplate, it will really give importance to dwarven and orcish set as they are hard to get in my setting. i will enjoy finding them, i will be happy to find a piece of one set on a guy and i will be really happy if i manage to get a fuill steelplate set ona foe.

Edited February 9, 2016 by Kanirod