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[cptnkill]

TY for the feedback on this sopa and the CK but i guess we wont really know until if or when it passes, hopefully never.

As for the crashes since the patch, i uninstalled the entire game and used Toolbox by IObit (its free) for the uninstall so it removed everything then reinstalled it from scratch and had no crashes since. I have gotten some funny acting shadows anytime i tried to install a injector mod for shadows or change the shadow quality in the options.

This is why i cant wait for the creation kit, to fix all the little bugs and stuff that just make the game a little less awesome.

On that note i had bought FONV last year and couldn't even play it because of the crashes and glitches, then a couple of months ago someone told me about the nexus sights so i joined and grabbed a bunch of mods and glitch fixes and the game is so much better. So now i kinda wish i would have waited to get all A.D.D on Skyrim until about a year after the CK is out because by then the game will most likely have all the game patches and the great mods will be finished.

[Klipperken]

Thusfar I never had bad crashes which could not be solved rather easily.
Frankly, outside Beth, I have seen and (tried to) played far worse stable games.

What I know, FOR PC USERS, most of the trouble is within their hardware.
Poor configuration, poor HW Quality (the cheap main boards, named poor quality CPU's, cheap memory), not good drivers, you name it, can result in 70% of all troubles.

Having bought the better/best stuff, and assembling my comps myself, I avoided MANY problems.
Sadly, prices do not allow everyone to have a better comp, although the big corporations have the power to sell these at 1/3 to even cheaper, and STILL make awesome profit.

And now, some people are going to tell us what and what not we are allowed to have on our computers.
Avira for instance, will seek for things like cracks, keygens, you name it, where this is NOT THEIR TASK!

Next up: will Bethesda tell us what underwear to wear?
Will MicroSoft tell us when we can go to the toilet?

Where will all this end, I wonder.

Since long, corporations can rob you legally, and up till this day in 2012, it has not changed.
Apple builds hardware that is guaranteed to fail soon after the guarantee has expired.
But the law protects the asswipes!
Who will protect us from these malpractices?
No one.

[DeadricDamodred]

What I know, FOR PC USERS, most of the trouble is within their hardware.
Poor configuration, poor HW Quality (the cheap main boards, named poor quality CPU's, cheap memory), not good drivers, you name it, can result in 70% of all troubles.

Having bought the better/best stuff, and assembling my comps myself, I avoided MANY problems.
Sadly, prices do not allow everyone to have a better comp, although the big corporations have the power to sell these at 1/3 to even cheaper, and STILL make awesome profit.

I'm going to have to disagree and say that most of the trouble was the game. It was happening to all kinds of builds and computers. It even happened to my two new computers, which are top of the line Falcon Northwest computers that I've owned for less than a year.

The Desktop:

Motherboard: Rampage 3 Extreme
CPU: Intel i7 990x 3.40 GHz (overclocked at 4.12 GHz, using liquid cooling)
Video Card: nVidia GTX 580 (x3)
Memory: 12 GB
RAM Speed: 1600 MHz
Video Game Harddrive: 256 GB
Secondary Harddrive: 1 TB


The Laptop:

Motherboard: P151HM1
CPU: i7 2920XM 2.50 GHZ
Video Card: GTX 485M
Memory: 4 GB
RAM Speed: 1333 MHZ
Harddrive: 256 GB

There is NO WAY you can say it was my hardware; they are less than a year owned $6,800 desktop and $5,000 laptop made by the best pc gaming company in the world. Not-to-mention that my crashes (which were happening about 1 every 30 minutes since I bought the game the day it came out), have completely stopped since the last patches.

I'm sure a small percentage of people's rigs were at fault, but by and large, it was the game.

[Klipperken]

Then tell me: I ran Oblivion with 100+ mods and no probs, Fallout with nearly 300 mods and ditto probs?
If it runs good on my and my wife's comp, it simply CANNOT be the game.

My comp does not (yet) have the AI to rectify game-errors on the fly...
So, if it's not the software, only one thing remains then.

Edited by Klipperken, 08 January 2012 - 12:25 AM.

[DeadricDamodred]

Then tell me: I ran Oblivion with 100+ mods and no probs, Fallout with nearly 300 mods and ditto probs?
If it runs good on my and my wife's comp, it simply CANNOT be the game.

My comp does not (yet) have the AI to rectify game-errors on the fly...
So, if it's not the software, only one thing remains then.

I'm not talking about Oblivion, I'm talking about Skyrim. And I guess calling it a crash is techniquely wrong. They made it so it can only use up 2GB of memory; so my 12 cores doesn't really matter (or anyone else who has more than 2 GB of memory). So when the game askes for more than 2 GB of memory, the computer says "no", so Skyrim then closes out to desktop. So it's not really a crash. At least that's what I've come to understand is/was at least one major issue. But the new patches must of fixed that or part of it, because I have not experienced a close-out to desktop in quite a while.

All I was trying to say to you was if everyone from those that own low-level computers to mid-level computers to high-end rigs like mine are experiencing the same thing, it seems like it would be more of a game issue than a hardware issue. Now if only a few people were having problems, then I could see blaming their rigs..........but this close-out to desktop thing was all over. You personally may have not had it happen, but there were a LOT of people having it happen. LOTS.

[scot]

My computer was upgraded last year and can run any game on ultra, even gothic 4 wich needs needs 4gb (I´m 32 bit so only 3.2 for me) RAM and needs a more powerfull processor than mine and I can run it on ultra smoothly, oblivion and both fallouts run with no crashes, I played witcher 2 on ultra no crashes both crysis and crysis 2 on max settings no crashes, among other games, skyrim worked fine until patch 1.3.10, after it just closes to desktop randomly.I tested my hardware and all is stable and up to date so the crashes are no doubt because of patch 1.3.10.Not saying it breaks the game for everyone as there are people who can play it with no problems, but for me and lots of other people it turned my game unplayable.I tried everything to fix my skyrim re-installed (wich was a pain because steam wasn´t installing from dvd -.-) deleted mods, deleted saves, refreshed the ini files, tried on low settings and nothing was fixed, the game simply crashes for me my last hope is that patch 1.4 fixes it if not well hope steam and bethesda are happy with the money they "stole" from me...

Edited by scot, 08 January 2012 - 02:52 AM.

[Klipperken]

How remarkable...
Then my comp has to be godly smart!!!

I have 1.3.10, run several mods, use SKSE_1_3_10.
TESV.Exe, Skyrim.exe and SKSE are managed by LAA 204.

My last session, last thursday, ran for 6 hours straight, no single error.
My Lord, I have build HAL?

[rxmonste]

i say why wait, release the CK Now bethesda, to have it early in january is better than waiting longer, but i have been playing skyrim ever since i got it at November 14, which means i got it three days after it released, but the point is ever since that day i've been playing it and i still haven't finished the main story, here's my status
Race:Nord
Level:42
Bleesing of the stones:Warior stone
Dragonborn training:Finished
Dragon shouts:all 3 words of Unrelenting force,1 word of whirlwind sprint,1 word of Marked for death, 1 word of Become ethernal.
Dragons defeated:10, 9 killed and 1 flied away from me like a F@&%ing cowerd.
Main Story progress:Reached Quest one of Act 2.
Civil War side:Imperial Legion, halfway done with defeating the stormcloaks.
Factions joined:Dark Brotherhood (Not Finished), Theives guild (Not Finished), College of Winterhold (Finished)
I'm taking a break untill the CK releases, and frankly i hope bethesda releases it today.

Edited by rxmonste, 08 January 2012 - 06:23 PM.

[ginnyfizz]

Yeah aren't you the lucky one? I too have a high spec brute of a gaming PC and it has had some issues with Skyrim, although it is fine at the moment. *Crosses fingers.*

[Marcvss]

Then tell me: I ran Oblivion with 100+ mods and no probs, Fallout with nearly 300 mods and ditto probs?
If it runs good on my and my wife's comp, it simply CANNOT be the game.

My comp does not (yet) have the AI to rectify game-errors on the fly...
So, if it's not the software, only one thing remains then.

To be frank here; I run Skyrim, on ultra setting on a nice rig (specs in my profile) with 50+ mods. I rarely have CTD's if non.

I am still running it with day one patch and refuse to upgrade to any later patch.

Imo its absolutely the software that is falthy period.