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[habaar]

Hi,

my Skyrim CTDs (crashes to desktop) without any error message on any kind of save (normal save, quick save, autosave..) Basically I've spent like 5-6 hours now searching on the net for a solution with no success so far. Basically my skyrim is now unplayable, as I cannot save my game. Whatever save type I choose it just immediately quit to desktop.

I've tried so far:
- complete reinstall
- driver updates
- LAA, 4GB Skyrim
- modifying the .ini files several ways
- disabled all autosaving features in the options menu
- deleted skyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini to have the game regenerate them

No success.. After all I can narrow down my problem to the save function. It seems my save files are corrupted. If I start a new game save function works. I've read that this has something to do with the size of the save file. Over 10-12 Mb size it seems save files crash the game on save.

I have like 50 hrs of gameplay in it and my character is over lvl 30, definitely don't want to restart. Please advise if you came across similar crash on save problems and if you have any working solution for it. My last hope - assuming that I'm not the only one suffering from this - is that Bethesda releases a good update/patch which hopefully solves this. But who knows when.

EDIT #1: forgot to mention that I'm able to load any previous save game successfully, I just cannot create new saves due to the crash. So its probably not about corrupt save games, but corrupted save functionality..

Edited by habaar, 13 December 2011 - 04:20 PM.

[nomosoko]

The same problem was occurring in my save with a minor difference. I could still save sometimes, but after a certain (short) time in a play session the game would crash on save no matter what.
I tried various things including removing all potentially conflicting mods, cleaning the save with the 1-day-respawn & 1-day-corpseremove esps + sleeping for a while (that enabled saving
without a crash, unfortunately only for a short time).

Then I rolled back to a much earlier save (played with 1.1) and on the first try of saving, it CTDed again.

In my opinion the issue lies within patch 1.3. I don't think it has something to do with file size, since my save is "only" 7mb.


To solve the problem I can only recommend you to roll back to 1.1. It involves also downgrading all tools you use (TesV.exe and Skyrimlauncher.exe, also the 4gpatcher, if used SKSE + container categorization,
Scriptdragon and of course you'll also need the old interface.bsa, else fast travel won't work and will possibly cause other interface issues)
All the mods and textures you have installed should work.

At least for me this is working and I can now play crash free again.

Just send me a pm if you got further questions.

Best of luck in getting your game working again!

Edited by nomosoko, 14 December 2011 - 12:07 AM.

[habaar]

Many thanks! I try to roll down to 1.1 today. Will let you know if any success.

Edited by habaar, 14 December 2011 - 02:29 PM.

[Y05H1]

I'm having the same issue. Is there really no other way then to go back to 1.1?

[wr_berg]

You wouldn't happen to be using this Proudspire mod, would you? I just started experiencing crash on saves today after installing that mod yesterday. After trying a bunch of other things to no avail, I finally tried uninstalling that mod and everything works fine again, no more ctd on save. If not, try uninstalling any other esp mods you may have installed.

Edited by wr_berg, 19 December 2011 - 07:25 PM.

[habaar]

Actually I do use that mod you mentioned.. but it has been worked pretty well so far, so I guess it has nothing to do with my CTDs.
Bad news: after repairing the game, it now started to crash again the same way. In the meantime, I leveled up 5-6 levels, completed around 10-15 quests, and now suddenly out of nowhere again I am not able to use the save functions. My game does not crash on travels, heavy actions, or anything else, just only when I try to save the game with whatever method.. Strange ha..? And I'm on 1.1 patch with no steam, and with no new mod installed since I was able to fix it..

I honestly no idea what is happening.. its like there is an in-build counter to randomly start CTD my game when it feels I now played enough I'm totally out of ideas what the root cause could be..

[wr_berg]

Actually I do use that mod you mentioned.. but it has been worked pretty well so far, so I guess it has nothing to do with my CTDs.
Bad news: after repairing the game, it now started to crash again the same way. In the meantime, I leveled up 5-6 levels, completed around 10-15 quests, and now suddenly out of nowhere again I am not able to use the save functions. My game does not crash on travels, heavy actions, or anything else, just only when I try to save the game with whatever method.. Strange ha..? And I'm on 1.1 patch with no steam, and with no new mod installed since I was able to fix it..

I honestly no idea what is happening.. its like there is an in-build counter to randomly start CTD my game when it feels I now played enough I'm totally out of ideas what the root cause could be..

I bet that mod has everything to do with your CTDs. Disable it and see if you can save. A lot of people have been experiencing the same problem after a few gaming hours with that mod installed. It never happens right away, so you wouldn't know right away that its causing it, but it is. I was able to play just fine for a few hours. It wasn't until after I used a carriage to travel with that mod installed that it started crashing for me. I removed the mod and my game is fine. You won't even have to start a new character. Just uncheck that mod in your load order.. I really liked that mod too. It was the best Proudspire mod out there, but unfortunately it breaks the ability to save...

Edited by wr_berg, 19 December 2011 - 09:14 PM.

[habaar]

I disabled it, but still can't save.. ok, I understand it won't fix the problem right away, but then how..? Should I play without save as far as I can, and then try to save it risking to lose all my current progress..? How will I know that my game is now okay, and can save again?

Is there any way I can kind of "force" Skyrim to understand that the mod is disabled? If it makes any sense

[habaar]

wr_berg, I checked upon this mod on the source, and indeed lot of people report the same problem. Only one further question: how will I be able to rearrange all my currently stored stuff from the basement, save the game and then remove the mod..? Because as I see I actually lost all the collected stuff which is related to this mod / stored in containers delivered by this mod. Catch 22: if I want to play, need to disable this mod. Until I don't disable I can' save. Once disable, no more stored items Baaaahhh..

[wr_berg]

I disabled it, but still can't save.. ok, I understand it won't fix the problem right away, but then how..? Should I play without save as far as I can, and then try to save it risking to lose all my current progress..? How will I know that my game is now okay, and can save again?

Is there any way I can kind of "force" Skyrim to understand that the mod is disabled? If it makes any sense

Hmmm. If you disabled the mod correctly then it should be able to save right away. Did you go to data files and uncheck the box next to the .esp for that mod? Or are you using the Nexus Mod Manager? If so, it should do all the work for you when you deactivate the mod. If you did disable it correctly but you still cannot save, then there is another problem... :\

To correctly disable it, launch the game via Steam, not the Skryim4gb Loader (if you have it), so that you get the menu with "PLAY, OPTIONS, DATA FILES, TECH SUPPORT, EXIT" and select "DATA FILES." Uncheck the box next to Proudspire.esp and click okay, then "EXIT." Start the game however you normally would and see if you can save.

wr_berg, I checked upon this mod on the source, and indeed lot of people report the same problem. Only one further question: how will I be able to rearrange all my currently stored stuff from the basement, save the game and then remove the mod..? Because as I see I actually lost all the collected stuff which is related to this mod / stored in containers delivered by this mod. Catch 22: if I want to play, need to disable this mod. Until I don't disable I can' save. Once disable, no more stored items Baaaahhh..

One of the comments on the mod page states that if you turn off all the Autosave settings, then you should be able to enter the house and it will supposedly let you manually save again for approximately 24 in-game hours:

hanli427 2 reputation 0 kudos 11 posts
If your save is corrupted by the CTD you can turn off autosave and go back to the manor, once you enter it is possible to save again, for another 24 hours at least. But you can clear out all your loot and uninstall the mod without losing anything. No need to revert to older saves.

posted @ 01:54, 14 December 2011

If that works as hanli427 describes, you should be able to turn off autosave, enter the house, remove any items you wish to keep from areas added by the mod (the smithy room, the new housecarl room, new chests, weapons rack, weapon mounts, etc. Item in areas that the mod did not change should be ok). Then leave the house and manually save (again this is assuming that what hanli427 said works). Then exit the game, uninstall the mod, reload the previous save, and you should be good.

If you cannot get it to work like Hanli427 said, then I'm afraid you will just have to live without those items . But at least you'll be able to play the game without having to redo a bunch of quests

Edited by wr_berg, 19 December 2011 - 11:03 PM.