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Interview with Thepal, 1st place winner for Skyrim Nexus' FOTM con


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I have to say I somehow look forward into a sexmod. Thats because there are children in this game. (Pls dont misunterstand this)

As I heard the announcement there are children ingame, i thought you can have sex with your partner making your own children.
So maybe after the CK is released there will me a mod for making your own child, would be interesting to see a child of 2 races too. It also would be interesting if the children will grow older, fighting on your side as a companion.


But to make it once clear, even it is said often enough, some people seem just not to get it into their brains.
First: This Mod of the Month (of November) did win for improving the games reality as humankind being. If someone take your clothes you are nude, today you may will wear underwear (there are sure people who don't wear them because they feel better without), but skyrim plays in another timeline.

Second: Nudity is not porn, stop complaining about nudity is bad because coming out next will be porn. There are people out there buying weapons and use them for sports, that doenst mean they are killers at the same time.

Third: FOTM is maybe the wrong name, it could reduce the number of stupid discussions if is called "Most downloaded Mod of the Month" (MDMOTM ?)
FOTM is just nothing else.

There may be better mods at nexus, noone said there aren't. But we, the community, seem to like this the most. I didn't vote for anything, but I did download it. But I can accept that you, who dont like nude-mods or the fact this one got the FOTM, would prefer a other one. Still, you are in minority, sorry for that. Why cant you accept us who like this one or the fact this is voted for it.

So please, stop this senseless arguing.

Thx.

Btw. I think nudity is not "original" in Skyrim, because it would probably be censored by the USK and PEGI. For my taste, both of them are censoring way too much for some years.
Like no blood in animes or cartoons, I mean what the hell are children learning from this? You can hurt people as much as you want, even with knives or hit someone the brain out of his head, but they wont bleed?!
Their argument: Without censorship they would make children violent... yea...
News like murders, war-news ect aren't censored at all, what about them?
Just wanted to say, nude-mods are also a way of de-censoreship.

Edited by BurningFalcon, 04 January 2012 - 08:50 PM.


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Regarding the post before mine:

It's not really related that much to the #1 FOTM in November, but this award has spawned this 166-comment discussion related to that issue:

As I heard the announcement there are children ingame, i thought you can have sex with your partner making your own children.


And mods as such were the issue that huge discussion earlier was about.

It's as good occassion to ask as any: Can somebody explain this phenomenon to me? I've never understood why would someone actually do such mod, for what purpose etc. I know that there are mods such as (ugh) Animated Prostitution, or Estrus, just do know know why.

Why would ANYONE want to do that?

EDIT: I've asked without any special prejudices and without generalizing, but here's more bitter quote which absolutely made my day:

there are 'fans' on the Nexus creating fu**ing bizarre porn mods because they see the game not as a game, a respectable setting, or a story, but as a serviceable alternate reality which they can turn into their own freakish personalised fetish playground.


As to the discussion which raged here earlier: once again I admit, this mod isn't really the case, but is, if only slightly, related to those afore-mentioned mods which infamously brand part of Bethesda modding scene as twisted and perverted (I fear it may have actually become a stereotype).

Edited by GeeZee, 04 January 2012 - 10:11 PM.


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"Arena and Daggerfall were remembered for many things. Nudity was one of the features"
Okay? I didn't say it wasn't. I said it wasn't remembered for that and judging by this I'd say you agree by just calling it a feature.

"Why should nude mods be seen as inherently uncreative? What makes them uncreative. If it was a mod that retextured some armor (that took about 3 hours) people wouldn't be calling that uncreative would they?"
Why should they? You tell me why they should be creative, you're the one trying to prove something so the burden of proof falls on you. Also nice way to dodge the argument by trying to relate to it something else. But they might call it undeserving and not as creative as other mods the community has produced.

"Again why is this mod pathetic when it is no different to any other retexture mod? Again why does the amount of time spent on the mod make it any less worthy of being FOTM?"
It's not different than any other retexture mod? It's nudity, that would be the pathetic part of it while others might actually create something new. And the amount of time spent matters because you compared him to Vincent Van Gogh.

"Of course people are offended by the mod otherwise there wouldn't be people like you trying to come up with silly ad hoc reasons as to why it shouldn't be FOTM (even though it's determined by votes!)"
Perhaps people are offended, not at the content, but the fact that this got voted up just because it makes the site look like its users are morons. And people voted for it so therefore it is infallible?

"As for confusing scripture and philosophy I don't care which it is, it's still a load of rubbish"
What is wrong with you to make you decide that things that govern your life (philosophy) are a "load of rubbish"? You have a large database at your fingertips, so please use it.

"Newsflash: Animals are intelligent, just not as much as humans. Watch any nature documentary by David Attenborough. ;) If you think we're the only animals capable of reasons then you are very wrong."
Animals are intelligent, yes. I said intellect, you clearly don't know what this means. Reason is a human nature term, do you really not know this?

"Yeah we should live in a Brave New World Society! Bring it on! I can't see what would be wrong with it."
I'm guessing you haven't read the book, it's a dystopia that's meant to look unfamiliar and shocking to anyone other than perhaps a total consumer based society.

"In the mean time I'm going to download every nude/sex mod out there, endorse it and vote for it because that's the kind of stereotypical pathetic loner I am!"
No one called you a "stereotypical pathetic loner" except for yourself. Are you trying to let some guilt out through sarcasm? I called voting for this mod pathetic, as in stupid.

Edited by Stp29, 04 January 2012 - 11:44 PM.


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@whitehawk69

"Arena and Daggerfall were remembered for many things. Nudity was one of the features ;) Why should nude mods be seen as inherently uncreative? What makes them uncreative. If it was a mod that retextured some armor (that took about 3 hours) people wouldn't be calling that uncreative would they? "

I highly doubt the majority of gamers remembered Arena/Daggerfall for its nudity and saw it something that stood apart. Nude mods are inherently uncreative because they have been done literally thousands of times. They are relatively easy to make compared to other mods. For example, if you read the interview this mod is an example taking minutes to make at first. Your comparison to an armor texture is a poor one at best. Armor is actually part of the core gameplay while nudity and sexual arousal is not. Armor texture improvements can go a long way to making the game look nicer and are generally harder to make, especially if the mod modifies more than one piece of armor.

"Again why is this mod pathetic when it is no different to any other retexture mod? Again why does the amount of time spent on the mod make it any less worthy of being FOTM?
Of course people are offended by the mod otherwise there wouldn't be people like you trying to come up with silly ad hoc reasons as to why it shouldn't be FOTM (even though it's determined by votes!)"

So simply because it won a vote, the mod is now great? I have been going to Nexus for mods for a long time, and have seldom participated in FOTM votes. I have, however, endorsed many mods because there are far more advertisements for endorsing than voting for FOTM. If you look at the top endorsed mods of all time, in the top 20 there are only 2 "adult" mods. Granted, some of those mods were posted in December, but I speak for the silent majority who do not download sex mods. The people who download and enjoy nude/sex mods give not only a bad name for this community, but a bad name for gamers as a whole.

"As for confusing scripture and philosophy I don't care which it is derpa derp, it's still a load of rubbish :P"

Yeah dude, higher thinking is totally for f***ing retards! Right on brah!!11

"Newsflash: Animals are intelligent, just not as much as humans. Watch any nature documentary by David Attenborough. ;) If you think we're the only animals capable of reasons then you are very wrong."

-_- Yeah dude. Animals are totally capable of reasoning. Also, you are confusing intellect with intelligence. Regardless, the gap between the intelligence a human is capable of and an animal is capable of is huge.

"Yeah we should live in a Brave New World Society! Bring it on! I can't see what would be wrong with it. :D"

I'm guessing you haven't read the book.

"In the mean time I'm going to download every nude/sex mod out there, endorse it and vote for it because that's the kind of stereotypical pathetic loner I am! XD"

Don't take things too personally. No one called you pathetic, only the mod.

Edited by plasma890, 04 January 2012 - 11:56 PM.


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"I highly doubt the majority of gamers remembered Arena/Daggerfall for its nudity and saw it something that stood apart."

Actually, it was something that set it apart and that people remember. Gamers usually want companies to start treating them as mature adults. I haven't played Witcher 2 yet, but that is one of the main things you hear about that game, and a reason I have already bought it for future play. Gamers want a more mature game (and by that I don't mean full of sex and perversion, just not full of stuff 15 year olds are allowed to see).

"Nude mods are inherently uncreative because they have been done literally thousands of times."

So have armour mods. So have hair mods. So have post-processing mods. So have house mods. So have companion mods. Need I go on?

"They are relatively easy to make compared to other mods. For example, if you read the interview this mod is an example taking minutes to make at first."

Actually, at the time, this was the most complex mod made for Skyrim. It was for a while afterwards as well. In the days following this mod I had private messages from all sorts of modders asking how it was done (since it required mesh editing which we didn't have the tools for), including from the people that make those tools. So, before you say that something was easy, maybe you should think about why the only nude mod (and still the best in many people's opinions) was created by one of the most experienced modders in the community.

In addition, my textures are extremely well done (yes, I'm going to talk myself up because I think the truth generally helps with discussions such as this). Thought far beyond most re-texturing mods went into this mod, and considering all that was out in the first month were re-texturing mods, I would say that this mod probably deserved some of its votes.

"Your comparison to an armor texture is a poor one at best. Armor is actually part of the core gameplay while nudity and sexual arousal is not. Armor texture improvements can go a long way to making the game look nicer and are generally harder to make, especially if the mod modifies more than one piece of armor."

Seriously? Retexturing armour might make the armour look a little nicer. That's it. This mod actually *changes* something. Gameplay. Immersion. Perversion. Whatever you want to call it. Not that I'm saying there is anything wrong with armour retextures. I tend to use them because I like the game to look nicer. But I think your comparison is the poor one.

Edited by Thepal, 05 January 2012 - 01:10 AM.


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I cannot but feel greatly offended by the people who are insisting that I play my game their way when I use a mod such as this. One would think that this would be a 'no brainer', but they keep getting hot under the color because I use incredible mods such as this one to enhance my gameplay experience. And then to furthermore flame the talented author when people such as myself show our appreciation for the wonderful improvements to our games by voting them "File of the Month". I have no use for the so-called 'sex mods' myself and have never used them. But I stand in support of those who do use them for the personal enhancement of their game playing pleasure. It is a solitaire game and what goes on in it hurts no one.

Once again I cannot thank you enough for this wonderful mod. I marvel that you were able to create this without the use of the yet missing Creation Kit. Your talents do not go unappreciated.


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When comments start to sound like Boxxy from YouTube, it is always better to change the topic.

Edited by goranga, 24 January 2012 - 01:58 PM.


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@stp29 You seem to have it got it into your head that nudity is pathetic and morally wrong. Even though there is no reason to think this and as such you keep going round in circles. So I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you anymore ;)

@plasma890

1. I never said that the mod was great becasue it got FOTM :D.
2. That's not higher thinking at all! XD
3. Elephants can feel emotions. Game over :P
4. I'm fully aware of the book's content and what can I say? One man's dystopia is another's utopia :P
5. That last part about me being stereotypical pathetic loner was a joke - you should try a sense of humor sometime :)

Edited by whitehawk69, 05 January 2012 - 05:02 PM.


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I haven't played Skyrim in about 2 weeks. I completed the main quest and became head mage in like 4 hours. Honestly, it wasn't that challenging of a game as some of the previous ES games. I downloaded this mod so there would be naked women in my game. I'm a male. I also like hot chicks with swords that kick ass. Xena and Gabrielle (well, she had a staff) .Red Sonya. No religious stuff no philosophy. The nude mods are cool. Congrats on file of the month dude...that's cool!!!

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4 hours, huh? I'm at 152 hours according to Steam and I haven't even returned the Horn to the Greybeards yet. I'm head of Companions and Thieves Guild. Doing DB and Mages. Done a bunch of stuff around the place. Haven't joined the Stormcloaks or the Imperials. I figure I'll be at around 200 hours by the time I finish the game.

I think there might be a little more for you to see ;-)




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