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[Sky999]

Does anyone else find it ironic that, had Alduin not interrupted the execution at the beginning of the game, then the Dragonborn would have had his/her head chopped off and Alduin would have been free to destroy the world without any problems?

Come to think of it...why was he even attacking Helgen in the first place? I always got the feeling that it had something to do with the presence of the Dragonborn, but still....just leave it to the executioner dude...you'd have saved yourself so much trouble.

Edited by Sky999, 17 January 2012 - 10:08 PM.

[Rabbit 51]

Devine Intervention? The Gods of Skyrim seem to care more about what goes on amongst we mortals. They were nudging the die roll.


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[McclaudEagle]

If you look closely when he's attacking Helgen whilst your head is still on the block, he will be looking directly at you the whole time, and at one point actually tries to hit you. This likely means he came to Helgen to kill the Dragonborn, and was clearly able to identify the Dragonborn. One thing I did find funny was how, despite being the Empire's 'public enemy', and a clearly dangerous man, they don't execute Ulfric first.

Edited by McclaudEagle, 17 January 2012 - 10:34 PM.

[FordPerfect]

If you look closely when he's attacking Helgen whilst your head is still on the block, he will be looking directly at you the whole time, and at one point actually tries to hit you.

Nah, it's an illusion. Sort of like how the Mona Lisa seems to follow you with her gaze. Of course he tried to hit you. He was trying to hit everyone. In fact the only thing that would be odd in that regard is if he tried to hit only you. The truth is you're pretty much ignored as you make your escape, with the occasional 'Oh Hai There!' encounters where he's focusing on killing guards and peasants.

[Sky999]

This likely means he came to Helgen to kill the Dragonborn

Which proves the irony seeing as, had he just waited a few seconds longer (or not attacked at all), then the fat guy with the executioner's hood would have done the job for him.

[faifh]

This has been discussed in great length:
http://www.thenexusf...-attack-helgen/

To sum it up, somewhere in between:
* After coming out of the time whirl just been mad and attacked the next townat the throat of the world (its pretty close to helgen)
* After coming out of the time whirl confused and realized only after the attack he is in a completely different timezone.
* He senses the dovakin (He says "(dragon bla bla) dovakin" somewhere at helgen!) and is just nosy what you are capable of.
* He plays with you like a cat that plays with a mouse before it eats it, just you escape.
* After the encounter he considers you puny and not worth his further attention.
* Its his idea of a welcome party (his welcome back to the world, or your welcoming).

To explain it out-of-universe: of course, just Beth wanted to start the game with a bang and never bothered to come with an explanation ex-post.

He is certainly not:
* There to kill you - otherwise he would just await you again you when you exit the dungeon, to finish his job. He also shouts unrelenting force upon you when you are at the block, a firebreath instead would have finished you off. (He tests how you react)
* There to rescue you - he kills you without any sorry if you are in his way. Nor does he ever help you again, thats why I refute these "mystic binding and helping arguments"
* There to rescue Ulfric Stormcloak - he has no idea who that guy is, since he doesn't dialogue with human affairs.

Edited by faifh, 17 January 2012 - 11:23 PM.

[Ferodaktyl]

or it could just be pure coincidence, and all scenarios being described are how human mind tries to give sense to something that has happened by chance, and is indeed ironic

[thesapien]

If you look closely when he's attacking Helgen whilst your head is still on the block, he will be looking directly at you the whole time, and at one point actually tries to hit you. This likely means he came to Helgen to kill the Dragonborn, and was clearly able to identify the Dragonborn. One thing I did find funny was how, despite being the Empire's 'public enemy', and a clearly dangerous man, they don't execute Ulfric first.

Comedy of errors. They probably were going to execute Ulfric first, but then that one guy gets impatient and jumps ahead. Then that one lady who hates you for some reason demands you go next. Then the whole dragon thing happens.

[thesapien]

or it could just be pure coincidence, and all scenarios being described are how human mind tries to give sense to something that has happened by chance, and is indeed ironic

But it is a work of fiction. That would mean the writers either intended the irony or didn't see it as being anything worth commenting and the joke is on them.

Also, coincidence is just another explanation, not outside what you described as the human mind trying to make sense of something.

[thesapien]

This has been discussed in great length:
http://www.thenexusf...-attack-helgen/

To sum it up, somewhere in between:
* After coming out of the time whirl just been mad and attacked the next townat the throat of the world (its pretty close to helgen)
* After coming out of the time whirl confused and realized only after the attack he is in a completely different timezone.
* He senses the dovakin (He says "(dragon bla bla) dovakin" somewhere at helgen!) and is just nosy what you are capable of.
* He plays with you like a cat that plays with a mouse before it eats it, just you escape.
* After the encounter he considers you puny and not worth his further attention.
* Its his idea of a welcome party (his welcome back to the world, or your welcoming).

So you claim Alduin was either frozen in time or shot forward in time but not banished and did not spend any time in any other realm? Where did I miss this part?