LE A whole different and possibly diffcult mod? (Collab project)

[Rex1029]

But, you don't account for the possibility that they will go to the hot springs... Nor do you account for places where such would be suitable. There are mods that add baths, and there is a number of areas where such cold would not be an issue. Eldergleam Sanctuary is a good example of this type of place, as is everyone inside the house that is properly heated. :)

 

As I said, I would call those a middle layer, not an under-layer level of clothing. As we know, when those were popular, and where they are still used, the weather is very cold. The people in cold areas dress in multiple layers. Not just 1 or 2, but often 4 or more, and that doesn't include their normal outer layer to protect from outside cold/snow/etc... The bikini style would be layer 1. That would be layer 2, in my opinion. The displayed layers are often layer 1 (nude-ish) and 5 (full outer layer) .. the game doesn't show the other layers normally.

 

The thing to remember, however, is that if you are doing a child character, the child dovakin doesn't have parents looking over their shoulder, mandateing the clothes worn at any particular time, or what clothes to be worn. As such, they can dress, or not dress, as they like (according to personal preference of the player).

 

In other such fantasy games, there is also another effect that would work to explain this. If you look at D&D, there is a spell called "Endure Elements" ... it basicly allows you to survive in extreme temperatures without issue. By this I mean the temp range of about 120 to -30 or so, without problems (yes, loincloth whipping in the artic winds, with snow up to the knees, and being perfectly fine, no goosebumps or anything.) IF you happen to be in a extremely cold environment, it seems reasonable to me that it would be the cost effective thing to get this type of device/item/tattoo/enchantment/protection on something as early as possible. For your own example, that would seem a better investment for protecting the kids than buying thick, heavy clothes for 20 years. (do you pay for an enchantment on the kid, that works all the time and increases survival chances on a constant basis, regardless of the clothing worn, or do you pay more than that on clothes that could get damaged, torn, removed, or be outgrown, and cost more than that in the long run? Which ensures the kid's survival more? :) ) Also, in this game's setting, you can have a fire effect on each hand, and use that to keep your body warm. If you wish hypothermia effects, you can always download a mod for such, or you can classify that all the people here, as a matter of casual fact, have gotten such a enchantment at some time to protect against such problems. (*shrugs*) ... In such an environment, such an effect would be in such high demand that there would be a vested interest to have at least 4 people in each village to know it... if not everyone in the village. :)

 

I agree that both would be possible in this game's setting. I would say, however, that the mid-layer you described would be better as just that... a MIDDLE layer. Have it be something that can be put on independently of other things.

 

Remember with the realism aspect... In the game setting, Magic IS real. It would be classified as Real, and would be planned on realisticly for the characters in the game. Magic would be a force that many count on, just like electricity or fire is here. With the effects being magical in nature, and understandable for the situation, and supported in the game history (look at the protection from cold effects, after all, that get put on armor) ... it would not be unreasonable, or unheard of, to be a valid possibility in this case. :) With that in mind, I really don't mind the bare aspects of a midriff or the like on some characters. Add that to the natural resistance to cold that nords have, and it's a simple thing in my mind that isn't a big deal, honestly.

 

As for the underwear : As for why it seems painted on, that is fairly simple to account for... It HAS to be for most things of a modest nature. If it is a external mesh, there is always a possibility for a clipping issue, and possibly slipping through when moveing. Effectively painting it on the torso was the easiest way to ensure it didn't slip through and offend the easily offended. If the undies can't be removed, and they are there, and no slips are possible between body and undies, then noone can claim that they are promoting nudity, any more than a beach does. (*shrugs*)

[MarkInMKUK]

Re: the custom body per race stuff to create variable ratio body parts with age - take a look at the Unique Beast Races mod which splits the body meshes up for each race type - might give a few pointers

[Wylda]

I agree with the author, even if it might be impossible and a little to "The Sims" with it, but I really hate that every child looks the same, sounds the same and are just plain dull. Im not looking for a playable childrace or teenagers with buubs ect. Just children in different hights, looks and sounds. If someone want, I can be a voiceactor. Im swedish, so that crappy english accent wont be a problem ;))

 

And besides, I think it would be a good realistic feature to add a small amount of pregnant women. Since almost every blacksmith have a real beer-belly, why not 2-3 preggos in each city.

 

Hugs and bunnies // Emm

[Tumu]

Honestly, I don't see the problem with having children nude. As stated by someone above, just being nude doesn't fall into the range of pedo or porn laws. Being of this mind, I have been trying to find a nude mod for the Skyrim children, either that or a tutorial on how to make one in the creation kit. The nude body isn't a sexual thing, no matter what the age of the subject. I'm actually trying to make a nudist Skyrim to reflect my belief, but it's kind of hard with all the controversy surounding the subject of child nudity. That being said, if anyone knows of a nude child mod, can they tell me where to find it and if not, can they give me something that shows me how to do such work in the creation kit (I'm not to good with blending colors)? Edited June 7, 2012 by Tumu

[AuroraMoon]

Actually.... the laws state that if any kids' genitals are showing it can qualify as child porn, even if they aren't doing anything dirty or pervy. in fact, some parents have actually gotten in trouble just for photographing their kids in the bathtub nowadays. thier kids were then taken away, even though they were good parents who hadn't done anything to their own kids.

http://current.com/community/90986809_parents-sue-wal-mart-after-children-taken-away-over-bath-time-photos.htm

 

Yeah, the law has gotten REAL paranoid regarding child nudity. personally, I wouldn't mind if there was like dozens of naked kids in game with their body bits dangling in the wind.... I would just look at such a scene, laugh and go "wtf! they're going to freeze to death!" However.... if I was to make such a mod, I run the risk of getting into trouble with the law here, and get labelled a pervert. I don't want that to happen.

 

that's why I'm so against having the kids be naturally nude... unless they were naked like a barbie doll... skin showing, but no nipples, no gentials, etc.