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[LaserWerewolf]

@elementxstyle: I think I must agree with the rest and tell you that it sounds prety proffesional and you have a good voice. I hate myself for this, but I have to ask if youre possibly willing to re-record it, since I have expanded and rewritten, more Khajiit-like script for Jo'ran. Im promissing, and not only to you, that I will not be changing it every month (I have done it once for all, or until there will be some drastic change in story in future - but ofc there is strong possibility of adding new lines for some characters, depending on story).
Also, since you say youre welcoming critics and feedback, and thats really just my opinion, I would like a little bit more of khajiit accent in fist scene. I think there is little difference between first and second scene on your video, and second one is a bit more khajiit-like, but still very well understandable - and I like it that way. Maybe you would like to try another character as well? I think maybe Pahmar would be good with your pleasant voice. But I think you should speak about that with Chishiokage and Fnorkus, and come to some agreement about who is best for which character.

Edited by LaserWerewolf, 03 May 2012 - 09:42 PM.

[elementxstyle]

@LaserWerewolf: I'll always be willing to re-record any lines that need to be re-written. I'll take your feedback into consideration when I do. Just shoot me a message with the new lines and I'll do a retake. I was also hoping you would be open to rewriting some dialogue because if there is one thing I noticed, is that Khajiit are very selfish. Not in the sense you immediately think of, but in terms of announcing themselves. Things like speaking in the third person has always been a staple of Khajiit from what I remember. Like quips from Kharjo when he says, "Khajiit watch your back." or "Kharjo will help you."

I've noticed the prominence of saying Khajiit or their own names a lot in dialogue. When I first saw Jo'ran I knew immediately i would like to voice him. And immediately i was saying in my head when he blasted that guy he said, "I am sure you did not desire to face the wrath of Jo'ran"

Haha, in any case if you do decide you'd like my voice for Jo'ran, I'll be happy to record anything you need. And of course make adjustments to the voice according to feedback.

[LaserWerewolf]

@elementxstyle: yes, thats exactly what Im trying to achieve by my rework. Speaking in third person, using khajiit-like similes about tails and sugar, some jokes, ocassionally some word in Ta'agra. I will send you my reworked text, and Im open to any discussion about it. In new version is Jo'ran mostly adressing himself with his name, or he shortens it to "Jo" which means wizard. That line with "wrath of Jo'ran" would be awesome opening line, if Muppet was able to make Jo'ran start dialogue. I think its achievable goal and I believe there are good examples of it in some mods around. We will see.
EDIT: @Fnorkus: what you think about elementxstyle's take on Jo'ran? Most ppl seems to like it very much. Can we come to agreement with that he will take this character?

Edited by LaserWerewolf, 03 May 2012 - 11:45 PM.

[elementxstyle]

I've sent the same file to Laser, but I'd also like everyone to hear it. You can sample my expanded take on Jo'Ran using LaserWerewolf's rework here:

http://dl.dropbox.co...an-Expanded.wav

[muppetpuppet]

wow i must say the end result is really nice.. it adds lots of flavor.. kudos\
and its really quite fun.. Kudos to both of you.. maybe we can mix these up. keeping some lines for the second time you meet joran..


A quick note for Laserwerewolf.. there is a 150 character limit per subtitles.
I'm ok with having expanded voice lines in dialogue and shorter more readable subtitles, Do you think you can make a special text version of the lines to fit in 150 characters per voice sample..

So the voice tells all the jokes and flavour, and the text only gives the bare required info

[muppetpuppet]

here's the setup for the sload quest, perhaps laser can write in some lines and you can do a new khajiit voice Element as part of a quest..

He;ll be standing in the waterways tradingpost. the questline is as follows..

K=new khajiit male.

player talks to K,, K tells him that mervar needs your help, but after that he also has some use for you..
player finishes incursion quest, and returns to K
K tells the player that Dervar has spotted a Sload in the tenmar cathedral.. (the sload will be non visible until the quest) K has already asked the pahmar to investigate and they have sent Silksin to the cathedral.. The player must now go and meet with silkskin..
K can tell additional info about the sload..

The player arives at silkskin (could be male could be female,, i think with elements voice male would be best).. Silkskin tells the player the cathedral is a sacred burial ground of the Khajiit, and the Pahmar have always guarded it.. The com ing of a toad is bad news, and she would not want SLoad necromancy to disturbe their ancestors..

The player is pointed towards a catacombe entrance underneath the small burial mound..

There the player meets the sload (as well as a bunch of skeletons) The player can talk to the sload or if the player chooses to kill it he will teleport away.. If the player talks to thesload he explains that the player has no choice he will not leave untill he is hungry for new tastes, and is here to taste and eat samples of all the varieties of wildlife in the forest. (he;s sort of a funny obese evil hunger demon type)
after this he teleports away (hope i can script this)

the player returns to silksin who tells him they must find a way to stop him and that the player must talk to K again. The player must now talk to K again who to find some samples of forestbite poison and hyenameat. The player does this and returns to K. Who tells him he can make a poisoned piece of hyenameat that when eten saps away all manna,, if the player can get the sload to eat it he will be unable to teleport..
The player goes back to the slaod and gives the poisined meat to him, he eats it and when realises its poisoned turns into a raging endboss battle..

afterwards the player kan talk to silkskin and K about sloads etc..

Do you guys like this,, or is it too much,..

[LaserWerewolf]

I think it need some polishing in some lines, since we came to some misunderstanding about some little nuances, but in general I am very happy with it as well. I must say it again, Its pleasure to work with elementxstyle.
@Mup: Laser will polish it, yes. He wasnt counting it, he just tried to not be longer than longest original lines was. Possibly he overdid (omg is that a word?) it somewhere ,) This one noticed that Khajiit have tendencies to magnify things, yes?
EDIT: @Mup: I have read now this setup, you probably totally spoiled yourself here, maybe you would do better if you PMed it, but I dont think many ppl stray here anyway, so its probably ok... And I like it a lot, and I dont think its too much if its not too much for you to make it (hope not), it sounds like fun, and it will be pleasure to make it. Do you have some idea about this K guy, what he should be like, occupation and this? Priest, regarding involved burial grounds, alchemist, regarding poisoning? Both? Or I should suck him from my thumb? I think I can do it ,)
EDITEDIT: Remembering now, when I was in cathedral last time, Jenassa killed the troll before I even noticed it (and yes, shes very eager to kill necromancer in waterways as well,)). You should remember to manage it somehow to be sure that same thing will not happen with Sload - I mean, that my follower will not ruin my quest ,) But maybe I dont need to worry about this?

Edited by LaserWerewolf, 04 May 2012 - 02:12 PM.

[elementxstyle]

@muppet: I'd be happy to voice anyone else you think I could do. Just give me a description of how the guy is emotionally and physically (build) and I can work out something for him.

I am also polishing some lines as requested.

[Fnorkus]

Okay, so, uhm, did elementxstyle just take Jo'ran, then?

'cause I was already kinda working on those lines.

Now I'm fine with that, not gonna act butthurt or anything, but it is a bit sad to see your work go to waste.

It would be quite nice if people could check in first to see if a certain voice has already been taken (Maybe something could be posted on the front page?)

Now please note that I'm not just saying this out of egocentrism or anything, don't want to send out the wrong tones, and as I said, I can be totally fine with this.

Now, regarding the Sload-thing, I like the quest idea, and I think I would like the opportunity to do another female voice, so I could take this Silkskin person for that.

Edited by Fnorkus, 04 May 2012 - 03:46 PM.

[LaserWerewolf]

@Fnorkus: I understand you, I was myself hoping you didnt recorded those new lines yet. But also I think you must admit that elementxstyle is doing excelent job, hes acting, but I can understand him every last word, and also he have very pleasant voice. Would be shame of epic proportions to not use him. And speaking for myself, hes also very good teamplayer. In quick, hes a person who we just need here. I think it was proposed at start "people like your take on more = you go in". And this is the case. I think you dont need to worry about credits, your take on Jo'ran is in the mod in 7-7.3(or I quess), and that will be truth forever. I also think its only for good of all, if we will have more ppl for this acting, so there will be more diversity of persons and personalities, hope Im understandable.
What more. Since I have still same opinion about male/female roles, and since everyone of us dont like to waste his own or anyone elses work, I have to say - I think any female with some acting talent and some decent toaster will sounds more natural in female role than even better acting male. Possibly Im wrong and we do not have any samples from Elanaagain or other woman yet, so we can not compare, and I think anything is better than nothing. Youre doing it well, dont get me bad. Just I think if we will get female person for voicing, she will probably take some female chars from you, and I hope you will understand it.
Hmm, but about Silkskin I think, if she was female, possibly your voice can work in tiger case same as good as in Argonian case. It seems Mup would like element for this role more, so maybe you two can make some agreement between, or you both can do it and we will see what will have longer aplaus. But it seems that first I have to write her down, so, if you have any suggestions or advices about her, all of you, my PM box welcomes you. Ah and yes, there is also mysterious Mr. K coming from the mist, so same thing with suggestions and advices in my PM box for him as well.
You cannot imagine how long I was writing this, lol

Edited by LaserWerewolf, 04 May 2012 - 04:46 PM.