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[Kraeten]

you have missed the point of want i was quoting. Have you ever watched Interview with a Vampire?

Nope, I haven't. Should I watch it?

what i originally was going to post was I'd only feed on and killl bandits, necromancers etc. i could be a moral vampire lord an kill only evil-doers ( after i destroy the Dawnguard. )

LMAO, I hadn't thought of feeding on Necromancers. What an utterly fitting way to punish them.

[robanybody2000]

It's exactly like stormcloack/empire option. I don't want to be a vampire but i don't want to exterminate all of them. It seems that Bethesda is realy into forcing players into extremyties making you look like an evil shady character or a religious lunatic. Of all the posible DLC they could have made they actualy chose the worst.

Care to explain your reasons in greater length? As they are now, I find them rather poor. The Vampire Lords you're going to be fighting in the DLC aren't a bunch of sparkly Twilight fruitcakes. These are monsters in every sense of the word. They don't just devour your blood, but your very soul. To say "I don't want to exterminate all of them", shows you either give them some unwarranted sympathy or quite frankly you don't understand them.

The Dawn Guard meanwhile are doing what is simply the sensible thing, defending mortal life by ruthlessly fighting the immortal undead that would prey on them given the chance. In good classic vampire stories, there is little to no moral grayness in the conflict. Vampires takes the lives of humans to prolong their own. They're evil.

The Civil War in Skyrim on the other hand is ENTIRELY different. Both sides are guilty of their own crimes, and you can have a sound moral reason for joining either side. Stormcloaks want the freedom to rule themselves and worship Talos. They want to cast out the Thalmor. There's no escaping the fact Ulfric is a racist however, and more importantly he is more or less responsible for the civil war. From Toygg's councilmen it is made clear Torygg admired Ulfric, and would have likely helped him if the ambitious fellow had only asked. Yet Ulfric didn't, instead killing the young High King and sparking a bloody war that might very well have been avoided altogether.

Then we have the Empire. The empire built by Tiber Septim, AKA Talos. Yes they signed the wretched White Gold Concordant, but by doing so they may very well have saved many lives. And unlike the Nords of Ulfric's Stormcloaks the Empire strives to make a society fit for everyone. They've certainly fallen under hard times, but is that reason enough to abandon the Empire? The answer to that isn't easy.

Maybe you should do some reading into the lore surrounding the civil war, to help give you some much needed perspective. The vampire vs dawnguard conflict just isn't comparable to the civil war.

Care to elaborate further without you actually playing it?As for the label "evil" depends what kind of character you are playing. For ex. I have a stage 2 vampire char with which i would love to have the sun blocked forever.And please describe some NPC's from Dawnguard and their moralities, also the other choices you have to make except choosing a side, oh and their consequences also. And you're telling me i have no perspective? You just contradicted me without knowing a thing about Dawnguard except it's about vampires and vampire hunters based on your understanding of vampires. As for the lore, i think UESP provides enough for a simple game conversation.

[modder3434]

you have missed the point of want i was quoting. Have you ever watched Interview with a Vampire?

Nope, I haven't. Should I watch it?

what i originally was going to post was I'd only feed on and killl bandits, necromancers etc. i could be a moral vampire lord an kill only evil-doers ( after i destroy the Dawnguard. )

LMAO, I hadn't thought of feeding on Necromancers. What an utterly fitting way to punish them.

you should watch it, its pretty good.

and yes it is a fitting way to punish necromancers....we don't like each other very much.

[steamtacular]

Honestly if I could I'd be a vampire who sides with the dawnguard. Since blotting out the sun would kill the humans

[Snowsong]

I'll definitely play both sides with different characters. My preference is to be on the side of the vampire hunters, though.

What is with the blotting out the sun thing? That would kill all life on earth. ... LOL. I guess the vampire clan can't think that far ahead.

Edited by Snowsong, 20 June 2012 - 05:21 PM.

[Systex]

What is with the blotting out the sun thing? That would kill all life on earth.

Remember we're in Tamriel, not planet Earth, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm not looking forward to a sun-less Skyrim. I'm no emo. Dawnguard all the way, but like most people, I'll probably make a new character or 2 separate save games. I'll go see the Dawnguard with my main character, and pay the vampires a visit with my secondary character.

[Matth85]

What is with the blotting out the sun thing? That would kill all life on earth.

Remember we're in Tamriel, not planet Earth, and as far as I'm concerned, I'm not looking forward to a sun-less Skyrim. I'm no emo. Dawnguard all the way, but like most people, I'll probably make a new character or 2 separate save games. I'll go see the Dawnguard with my main character, and pay the vampires a visit with my secondary character.

Correct.
There are no sun in the universe. The starts, the moon and the sun are simply Aedras work. It's the way the brain of the mortals sees Aetherius, which is the realm of the Aedra.
So no, blocking out the sun wouldn't do a thing to Tamriel. It would be darker, but that's it.

Magnus was still close to full strength when he fled, and in doing so, punched a hole in the night sky directly through to the Aetherius itself, which mortals see as the sun

Taken from the wiki.