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[soul stealer]

im in the area of the so-called puzzle box but where is it, :help: is there some sort of trick involved and i killed 1 of the guys in there does that make a differance please help

[Marxist ßastard]

It's on a shelf next to Boss Crito. Do a search before asking anything again, because this question has been repeated ad infinitum.

[loveme4whoiam]

But just before this gets locked, i'd like to make the point that if so many people (notice i didn't say idiot noobs, since it took me a fair bit of time to find it meself) can't find it, then isn't this an example of.. obscure level design (i was going to say bad, but thats not really fair). Perhaps Bethsoft and others should take note of this fact.

There, my little piece said. Bye.

[Marxist ßastard]

No, it's more the fault of people (note how I said people instead of idiot n00bs who can't go about the simple task of finding an object without coming to a public forum in leagues and whining about how much their head hurts from trying to play an RPG).

[loveme4whoiam]

Eh. Tomato, tomato (that doesn't look quite right when typed).

Seriously though, is it just the fact that so many people do not think about problems before they look for a way around them, such as posting on here, or is it the fault of the level designers not putting a bit more effort to make the puzzle box scream "I'm over here, come and collect me." Are players getting stupider as the technology to provide smarter gaming experiences comes of age? (Woah, debate realm here.)

[Marxist ßastard]

Like the Old Masters say... In the beginning, it was smart people in front of dumb terminals -- now it's dumb people in front of smart terminals.

[Malchik]

I will lock this. If we want a debate on the decline and fall of rational thinking lets start a new thread. My own view is that in a society where you have to be told 'coffee may be hot' and 'if you join the fire service you may see dead bodies' we expect to be told everything. To prevent games companies being sued in future a warning to users 'to complete this game you may have to use your brain' needs to be added. Hopefully this will also put off those who know they don't have a brain from buying he game in the first place.

That having been said, only in tribunal's clockwork city presents the kind of challenges where you have to think, IMO.