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[Mujuro]

Hello everyone,

First off, thanks for supporting Ceri! I hope you find her as valuable a companion as I do! I've created this separate forum to help me track bugs, as it's often tough to sort through the official comment thread. When reporting bugs, please provide the following information to help me troubleshoot:

1. Skyrim version used (e.g., 1.6.89)
2. Install method used (NMM, Wrye Bash, etc.)
3. Did you do a clean save mod install?
4. Load order manager (e.g., None/manual , NMM, BOSS)
5. Issue category (combat AI, wardrobe, configuration dialogue, etc.)
6. Issue description
7. Please include an excerpt from your Papyrus log that includes the time period when the issue occurred

Thanks everyone!

[Jeakel]

Hmmm, there's been both a Skyrim and skse update since you released the 1.3beta Skyrim 1.7.7.06 and skse 1.5.10rel26 Used NMM for the installs and BOSS for load order did the full clean save/uninstall/clean save/install routine... I'm also running UFO, but had no problem this afternoon when I installed the Ceri 1.3beta on my desktop at home ...her menus showed properly... but that was before the Skyrim and skse updates (haven't done them at home yet) But... I'm on my laptop at work...had to do the Skyrim and skse update, then did the update on Ceri doing the full clean save routine...and no Ceri menus, just the standard UFO followers menu... Haven't done the papyrus log because ... not sure how, lol

Edited by Jeakel, 31 July 2012 - 09:47 AM.

[Mujuro]

@Jeakel Thanks for the report! I've not updated myself yet to Skyrim 1.7; I built Ceri on 1.6. I'll try and tag a backup this weekend and update and see if the new 1.7 borks anything. SKSE shouldn't affect Ceri at all in theory, as I'm not using the SKSE functions.

For Papryus logging, go into your Skyrim.ini and, under the Papyrus section, add a line "benablelogging = 1".

[Jeakel]

Just an update...

Got home from work and booted my desktop...Skyrim auto-updated when I started it, and then updated skse...

loaded Skyrim, and Ceri was just fine (I installed the 1.3beta before the update)....have to go back and check my install on the laptop
(btw...I work midnight to 8am which explains my odd hours)

[Mujuro]

@Jeakel Ah, gotcha. I'm on odd hours myself, so I know the feeling. Glad to hear that she's working on 1.7. I don't tend to auto-update Skyrim for better or worse, in part because a lot of the mods I use don't always get updated right away by the various authors, and a couple of them are dependent on Script Dragon (Alex updated really quickly this time around, but took a couple of weeks for 1.6). SKSE typically is updated even during beta patch periods, luckily.

If things with Ceri's 1.3BETA go well, I'll likely do a snapshot of my current Skyrim install, update everything to 1.7, and then take 1.3 out of beta.

Edited by Mujuro, 31 July 2012 - 03:12 PM.

[Jeakel]

OK, got the problem on my laptop fixed...the only thing I could think of that was different between my laptop and desktop..was of all things, the skse logs. When I did the skse update on the desktop, I deleted the 2 skse log files, but I didnt do that on the laptop for some reason. When I deleted them....and started skyrim again...got Ceri's priestess dialogs back...just baffles me.

[Mujuro]

@Jaekel Yeah, I get odd stuff like that periodically. Skyrim isn't the most stable game to begin with, so throwing script extenders, a bunch of mods, Ceri's AI changes, etc., all on top of that ....

[Mujuro]

ImageGuru reported that I'd forgotten to remove one of my debug scripts for Ceri's spells and that it is popping up notifications. I'll remove this for 1.3 when it goes out of beta. At the moment, this notification only shows if the Ceri's level is between 11 and 20.

[encapturer]

1.3 is working great for me. Had to do a fresh save, but ah well, wasn't that far in anyway.

In any case, I ran into a... uhm... logic bug. Whenever I try a bar brawl, Cerwiden tries to heal me as soon as I get hit, then the other brawler gets angry and runs away/brings out their weapon, and then Cerwiden decides to join in on the fight wielding deadly force.

Skyrim 1.7.7.06 and SKSE 1.5.10
I manual installed, the used BOSS for load order.
Started a new game, so clean save indeed.
I guess it's a combat AI bug

I'm using Extensible Follower Framework if that means anything. Here's the papyrus log:

[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function RegisterForKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromAllKeys in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function RegisterForMenu in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromMenu in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromAllMenus in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function RegisterForModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function SendModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function UnregisterFromAllModEvents in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Form. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function GetNthWordOfPower in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function GetNthSpell in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function GetNthRecoveryTime in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function SetNthWordOfPower in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function SetNthSpell in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] error: Native function SetNthRecoveryTime in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Shout. Function will not be bound.
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:02PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:10PM] Cannot open store for class "QF_DialogueFollowerExtended_010048C9", missing file?
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:10PM] error: Unable to bind script QF_DialogueFollowerExtended_010048C9 to FollowerExtension (040048C9) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:10PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ07TrollBossScript to (1E00AFBB) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ06GregorScript to alias AwnuldGregorQ06 on quest AwnuldTheBoldQ06 (1E00A4E4) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ05Windrunner to alias AwnuldQ05Windrunner on quest AwnuldTheBoldQ05 (1E009A13) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714B) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (280120EB) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714C) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] warning: Property SpellMgmtToggle on script kcfCompanionDynamicSpellsScript attached to (22001D14) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017145) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017147) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:15PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017146) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property myActor on script dunPinewatchMakeHostileScript attached to (160071C5) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (160077FF) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017148) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017149) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] VM is freezing...
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] VM is frozen
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] Reverting game...
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ07TrollBossScript to (1E00AFBB) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Unable to bind script QF_DialogueFollowerExtended_010048C9 to FollowerExtension (040048C9) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ06GregorScript to alias AwnuldGregorQ06 on quest AwnuldTheBoldQ06 (1E00A4E4) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldQ05Windrunner to alias AwnuldQ05Windrunner on quest AwnuldTheBoldQ05 (1E009A13) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (280120EB) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714C) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] warning: Property SpellMgmtToggle on script kcfCompanionDynamicSpellsScript attached to (22001D14) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017145) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017147) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017146) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017149) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property myActor on script dunPinewatchMakeHostileScript attached to (160071C5) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (160077FF) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714A) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (28017148) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Property aaAGPillarActivator on script aaAGLightsOut attached to (2801714B) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (28017135) is not the right type
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:16PM] error: Unable to bind script AwnuldAmuletQuest02Script to (FF000CA4) because their base types do not match
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:21PM] Loading game...
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:21PM] VM is thawing...
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:38PM] Brawl: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001A671)>], friend=None
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:40PM] error: DGIntimidateQuest (00047AE6): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.
stack:
[DGIntimidateQuest (00047AE6)].QF_DGIntimidateQuest_00047AE6.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ?
[DGIntimidateQuest (00047AE6)].QF_DGIntimidateQuest_00047AE6.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124
[ (0002C5B1)].SF_DGIntimidateScene_0002C5B1.Fragment_0() - "SF_DGIntimidateScene_0002C5B1.psc" Line 17
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:54PM] VM is freezing...
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:54PM] VM is frozen
[08/05/2012 - 09:48:55PM] Log closed

Everything is fine if I leave Ceri outside, but otherwise, she goes berserk.

[Mujuro]

@encapturer It's not even a combat AI bug, what you're seeing relates to some consistency issues with Skyrim's vanilla quests. I've had this same issue with other followers, interfering with vanilla "quest" events like this; for me it was the College of Winterhold "mage duel" quest. The rub is that what you encountered, SOMETIMES occurs, sometimes doesn't. My only advice for you would be that if you KNOW you're going to get into one of these sorts of quests, to (i) tell Ceri NOT to heal you out of combat; (ii) set Ceri's combat heal threshold very low, e.g., 10%; and/or (iii) dismiss Ceri for the time being or have her relax somewhere.