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[SeraphTC]

i personaly will never preorder or buy another bethesda game as long as i live. especially since they canceled hearthfire for pc and ps3.i dont understand why bethesda decided to cancell hearthfire for pc and ps3. they even canceled dawnuard for ps3 but refuse to tell ps3 its cancelled.RIP bethesda as we knew them. look out bethesda went evil like microsoft did long ago. first they stole dawnguard from mod authors without giving credit. now they turned thire backs on pc and ps3 permantly. next they will permantly remove mod capability from all current and future pc titles. Bethesda has gone mad with financial power. they are even planing a xbox 360 exclusive agreement for the next elder scroll game according to a press release according to what my local gamestop store is saying.

"especially since they canceled hearthfire for pc"

No they haven't. (Seriously? Where do you get this stuff???)

"...and ps3"

Again, no they haven't.

"they even canceled dawnuard for ps3 but refuse to tell ps3 its cancelled."

Once more NO THEY HAVEN'T.

What they've said, quite openly and honestly, is that they are trying to get Dawnguard and post-Dawnguard DLC working on the PS3, but they are encountering technical limitations that are preventing it, and they are working with Sony to try and overcome those issues, but that it might not be possible. They have NOT cancelled anything for any platform. They are still working on it. If you don't like it, complain to Sony and ask them to provide their next console with a sensible amount of dedicated RAM.

"first they stole dawnguard from mod authors without giving credit."

WTF are you smoking? No they didn't. The basic concepts for this game were shown in the Game Jam video before the CK was even released. If you meant to say Hearthfire, the same is still true. That is besides the point - you use the CK that they provide to mod their game, then you agree to the terms of use, which say Bethesda have full rights to anything you create for their game and you can't sell anything for profit. So even if it was true, which is isn't, the mod authors have granted Bethesda full rights to everything just by using the tools. As they therefore own the rights, they aren't obliged to credit anyone.

"now they turned thire backs on pc and ps3 permantly."

Really? How do you figure that out, troll-genius? What's that? You have no evidence, because *all* of the evidence shows the exact opposite? Oh well....

"next they will permantly remove mod capability from all current and future pc titles."

The construction set/creation kit has generated many sales for Bethesda on PC. At CES 2012, Bethesda showed that the average playing time for Skyrim on PC was 75 hours. That was before the CK was released, and before we had so many mods to play with. Good money says it's now closer to 100hours+. Given that the core game is the same between console and PC, it's reasonable to assume that the difference is a result of the mod tools. Many people have purchased the console version of the game, then also purchased the PC version PURELY for the mod tools and/or mods. Now why would Bethesda stop releasing the tools when they generate so much popularity and so many sales??

"they are even planing a xbox 360 exclusive agreement for the next elder scroll game according to a press release according to what my local gamestop store is saying."

Let's put aside the fact that the next game (although developed by a completely different team) is TES Online, will be out next year, and is a PC only MMO.

If you believe that, you'll believe ANYTHING. Literally. The next gen of consoles are slated to be released late in 2013. Bethesda take at least 5 YEARS in between TES games, and Skyrim was released in 2011. That means we should be expecting another one sometime around 2016. Explain to me why, 2-3 years after it's made obsolete, Bethesda would make the game exclusive for the 360? Even if they turned it into an annual franchise and released the next "proper" TES game in 2013, it still would make ZERO sense to make it exclusive to the old console. It would be a complete waste of time. Lets not forget that Skyrim sold well on all platforms, including the PS3. Are they likely to take a Microsoft Exclusive deal granting whichever console is current at the time an exclusive for a couple of weeks or months? Yeah probably. But that doesn't mean it won't be released on any other platform. Why would Microsoft prevent them releasing a game for Windows, when that game would quite likely help them sell more copies of Windows? (Yeah, people have bought Windows based PC's just to play Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Chances are, they'll do that for the next game too).

Do you have any common sense? Can you not tell the difference between pure BS that some chump in Gamestop either made up or read on a forum from another troll, and basic financial suicide? Or are you idiotic enough to have made this up yourself? If so, maybe you could try being, I don't know, maybe a bit more intelligent about it? As a general piece of advice, claiming that a company is trying to money grab and suggesting that they will achieve this by doing things that will cost them a lot of money, makes you look like an idiot.

Go crawl back under your bridge. Or better yet, go and find a nice quiet corner where you can learn to read, then take the extra time to actually understand what you are reading. That way, the next time you walk into Gamestop and they start spouting nonsense you can put them in their place.

Trust me - you'll feel better about it than being bi*ch slapped about as a troll.

[MeatBagWammo]

I'm sure someone mad this point out before, but I just have to say that I prefer that Bethesda releases smaller DLC right now. Jut think, they had an agreement with Microsoft to make the first three DLC exclusive to the 360 for at least a month, and now the 2nd is out.

On another topic, SeraphTC is right. A working prototype of Hearthfire was created BEFORE SKYRIM WAS RELEASED! I haven't played any of the mods that allow you to build a home, but based on what I saw, Hearthfire seems to have more features. This being said, I think that when Harthfire comes out on PC, modders can use it to make more advanced build-a-home type mods.

I found an article that might shed some light on the pain that Bethesda is going through to get the PS3 users their DLC.

http://news.cnet.com...for-on-purpose/

[Valthonis666]

@MOTOSXORPIO "I'm sure you would say that same thing if you met me. Internet bullies, pirates/thieves, and self-entitled prats. Face-punch just breaks yer hand, whatcha gonna do then? Steal a new one?"

If a single facepunch breaks your hand, you've got brittlebone syndrome.

[Epzaos]

@nightwig84

i personaly will never preorder or buy another bethesda game as long as i live. especially since they canceled hearthfire for pc and ps3.i dont understand why bethesda decided to cancell hearthfire for pc and ps3. they even canceled dawnuard for ps3 but refuse to tell ps3 its cancelled.RIP bethesda as we knew them. look out bethesda went evil like microsoft did long ago. first they stole dawnguard from mod authors without giving credit. now they turned thire backs on pc and ps3 permantly. next they will permantly remove mod capability from all current and future pc titles. Bethesda has gone mad with financial power. they are even planing a xbox 360 exclusive agreement for the next elder scroll game according to a press release according to what my local gamestop store is saying.

By Ysmir's beard, who said that they canceled Heartfire for the PC?
It will come out on October 4th or 5th for the PC since it's part of the 30 day exclusivity deal like Dawnguard was.

[namaste911]

Second DLC and theorically the last one dealing with exclusives, I like this one, but I think that are going to be better from now. For the PS3 users hating Beth, everyone at their toes, but making games for an old piece of hardware, which works with 256 Mb of dedicated memory for the CPU and another 256 for the GPU, memory which they don't share, meaning that 256 is the limit for both and having an intense CPU use for graphic tasks... I can understand that making games for that could be a bit of a pain in the right ass.

Edited by namaste911, 06 September 2012 - 10:31 PM.

[Sherhi]

I think something like this already exists in mods, the "build your own home" thingie (i didnt like it thou), Its definitely not worth buying because it adds nothing to the game.

Dawnguard was okay, story kinda meh but fine (playing a vampire is really crippling my gameplay, how about i shoot the sun and it stays dark until i shoot it again with clean arrow?).

Thos game has still huge potential and all they do is squeezing money...its so sad

[SeraphTC]

I think something like this already exists in mods, the "build your own home" thingie (i didnt like it thou), Its definitely not worth buying because it adds nothing to the game.

Dawnguard was okay, story kinda meh but fine (playing a vampire is really crippling my gameplay, how about i shoot the sun and it stays dark until i shoot it again with clean arrow?).

Thos game has still huge potential and all they do is squeezing money...its so sad

Again, why don't you play it before making sweeping statements?

There are a couple of mods 'a bit like it' - none of them add everything that hearthfire does, and none of them are as polished, or have the same amount of options for the home.

I have bought it for 360, and it definitely IS worth buying and it DOES add to the game.

Again - I have bought and played it. Have you?

Hearthfire has been developed professionally by 3-4x guys at Bethesda for around 7 months. I don't think £3.75 could be in anyway considered 'squeezing money'. The fact that you think so is what's sad tbh.

[vereena]

I cannot believe it, but I actually read all 11 pages of this topic.
For that very reason I consider myself justified to a bit of a lengthy post.

It was a thrilling lecture, the number of reasons why this mod ...erm ... DLC is considered rubbish and why pirates should be praised is simply astonishing,
where those people take this kind of idiotic point of view from anyway?
Not to mention it's all off-topic.

When I first saw trailer, I realized I already have something like that off the Nexus. I honestly thought it's a prank, or a mock-up... then I looked into calendar and noticed it's NOT April Fools's Day.

I have this mod where you clear a fallen tree and build yourself a nice house on a river bank by the waterfall, and I am also going to get Heartfire, I'm sure Bethesda didn't place their "Lakeside Manor" in the same spot. They'll work together perfectly (Or someone on Nexus will make it work together perfectly)!

Bethesda is an author of my most favourite games since... Arena... Daggerfal... Morrowind... Oblivion... Fallout 3... Fallout NV... Skyrim... (with little mention for Redguard and Battlespire), I've spent countless hours of wonderful adventure in fantastic worlds of addictive stories that became part of who I am today. (Yes, I played every single one of those games...)

I'd happily pay them a fiver even if this was announced a fancy grass texture pack. Over years of non-stop excellence, I learned to trust their expertise, and I trust this fiver will add to the poll of money spent on Another excellent game like Dishonoured, or TES VI, or Fallout 4 for that matter.

Annoying bugs or glitches, incorrectly balanced weapons or armours somehow fall into oblivion together with flying mammoths and dragons somehow flying back... all that remains is the fun you had living through the adventure.

On console players:
They exist, I accept that, and thanks to them for in my opinion they are the ones who saved videogame industry from total collapse when stealing games by so called pirates almost brought it to a total extinction

@ skunky123
I'm a male and I'm a bit over 30, on top of that a dedicated, however retired modder and Heartfire in my opinion is a very professional mod ...erm, DLC worth having by just about anyone who enjoyed TES games (I know I played it, my friend have that on his X360 already).

Have a nice evening everyone.

[ClericMagnus]

Isn't this all just going to cost like...$3.75? Honestly, the only personal reason I bought Dawnguard was so that I could have access to the content people didn't have the time or resources to mod in easily. Now that the animations, meshes, and base textures for crossbows have come out, I can enjoy my mechanical stick hurlers to the utmost in a vast variety of shapes. I didn't pay for the content, I paid for the support of awesome mods that people were going to make from the scripts and other intellectual property of the DLC.

I expect that Hearthfire is going to turn out the same way. Sure, the base stuff may be sort of a suck fest designed for only the most casual players, but just think of all the new mods that will start cropping up due to the release of new resources.

[Everlive]

TBH, I don't think it's anything like Minecraft. In Minecraft you stack blocks on top of each other. It's more like the Sims, actually building a house part by part. To anyone bashing this DLC, just think, this is an RPG (ROLE PLAYING GAME). You role play as the character, your character is a humanoid, I'm pretty sure a humanoid needs a place to live, food to cook (realistic-y), someone to love (like a kid to pass down your dragon-slaying skills to), this just makes you feel more like the character him/herself. I see nothing wrong with that.