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[Sharlikran]

TES5Edit 3.0.23 EXPERIMENTAL is now available in the Downloads section on our Google Code Site.

If possible please post in the Bethesda forum: [RELz] TES5Edit

You can download TES5Edit 3.0.23 EXPERIMENTAL at our Google Code site skyrim-plugin-decoding-project in the downloads section.

TES5Edit 3.0.23 EXPERIMENTAL by ElminsterAU updated for Skyrim by Zilav, and Sharlikran.

This is a an experimental release of TES5Edit. If you don't know what TES5Edit is, you probably shouldn't be using it yet. Although we have put a great deal of work into it be aware of what you are doing. Ask questions in the official [RELz] TES5Edit Plugin Cleaning Emporium. As always backup you plugins, save games, and use with caution. (at your own risk)

Note: These are all a work in Progress.

Updates on CK Wiki Pages:

• TES5Edit
• TES5Edit Cleaning Guide
• - Working on Mod Cleaning Tutorial
• TES5Edit Mod Cleaning Tutorial
• - Dirty Plugins List is empty but can be edited by anyone
• TES5Edit Skyrim Dirty Plugins List

Rename to TES4Edit.exe to work with Oblivion.
Rename to FO3Edit.exe to work with Fallout3.
Rename to FNVEdit.exe to work with New Vegas.

Fallout3 Training Manual for FO3Edit (applies to all game versions)

Check for new versions here: skyrim-plugin-decoding-project

Important for Older Systems:
If you get an error about d3dx9_*.dll not being installed, you need to update your DirectX to the most current version.

The most current (March 2008) version can be found here: DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer
or here: DirectX End-User Runtimes Redistributable (make sure to install it after unpacking it).

Version 3.0.23 contains the following changes:

• [TES5] Merged patch updated for Skyrim, currently it merges:
• - Leveled NPCs, Items, Spells
• - NPC: Items, Spells, Head Parts, Factions
• - Race: Hairs, Eyes, Spells
• - Containers
• - Relations
• - Form Lists
• - Keywords on: Armor, Weapon, Ammo, NPC
• [TES5/FNV/FO3] When performing UDR there will be a warning message for deleted NavMeshes.
• [TES5] Updated record definitions.
• - BPDT was sorted by a localized name which is inconsistent for different languages (now sorted by a node name)
• - NPC's tints are now sorted by tint index for better conflicts detection
• - QUST aliases are no longer sorted by index
• - QUST stages are now sorted by stage index
• - Improved NavMeshes (thanks to Divstator)
• [TES5] FaceFX phonemes where empty after copying RACE record.
• [TES5] Fixed bugs when copying RACE and QUST (empty model was created for RACE; QUST location aliases were turning into ref ones).
• [TES5] Create start-enabled quests sequence SEQ file (you can select several files at once).
• [TES5] Improved error checking.
• [FNV] CHAL record was missing some challenge types from Dead Money DLC.
• [FNV] Disabled DIAL sorting, was causing errors when copying INFO records.
• No autosaves when "you know what you are doing".
• Compare with external tool option in Edit window.
• "Apply Filter for Cleaning" menu. Note that xEdit saves filter settings when you press OK button in filter window, so if you clean plugin and exit the program, your filter settings will be preserved.
• Filter option for deleted records.
• Saving messages to [TES5/FNV/FO3/TES4]Edit_log.txt upon exit.
• Fixed minor bug when Edit can't find game's folder. If your registry settings is invalid due to a Steam bug and Edit is unable to find your game, put it in the game's root folder where the game executable file is (Oblivion.exe, TESV.exe, etc).
• - Reason: The game's Registry entry is missing. This happens to a lot of people, because Steam likes to remove it whenever the game is updated or its game cache is verified. Run the game's launcher to add the Registry entry back again.

Version 3.0.22 contains the following changes:

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• Skyrim Support.
• New exceptions handler.
• Optional backups in a separate directory.
• Remember position and state of the main window.
• Fixed bug when editing with Shift+DblClick.
• [All] Wrye Bash ghosted plugins (*.esp.ghost) in plugin selection window.
• [ALL] FLST form list is no longer sorted.
• [ALL] EDID affects conflict detection.
• [TES5] Localization editor, plugin localization/delocalization with optional translation.
• [TES5] -l:language command line switch to chose default localization files.
• [TES5] Adding missed plugin files from plugins.txt/loadorder.txt to the end of plugins list.
• [FNV] WeaponModKit IMOD record support for various subrecords.
• [FNV] PLD2 subrecord is no longer removed in package.
• [FNV/FO3] Quest stage signed value overflow fix.
• [Oblivion] Fixed ownership record order in CELL.
• [Oblivion] Snowy weather definition fix (thanks to Arthmoor).

ToDo List:

Update Miax’s Tome of FO3Edit for Skyrim.
Update NAVM, NAVI, and wbUnion for VMAD.
Update the TES5Edit Cleaning Guide

Known Issues:

Issue 59: FNVEdit: "Copy as Override" on some dialogs
Issue 60: FNVEdit: "Copy as Override" on a Base Effect associated to a script.
Issue 63: TES4Edit: 3.0.23 throws an assertion failure when cleaning PGRD records from files.
Issue 69: TES5Edit: Adding items to a leveled list does not increase LLCT count.

Edited by Sharlikran, 22 October 2012 - 12:50 AM.

[Sharlikran]

Bring your coffee and your mod cleaning questions to the [RELz] TES5Edit Plugin Cleaning Emporium.

[StayFrosty05]

Go to the official forum or this will be a long wall of text that will be really hard to read.

I downloaded TES5Edit and followed the instructions to a 'T', everything came up in it's proper order. Apparently cleaned the 'Update.esm' and even BOSS reaffirmed that. I approached the 'Dawnguard.esm' next, and that's when everything went south for me. Firstly TES5Edit refused to touch Dawnguard so I quit the program. I saw something that mentioned running the Skyrim Launcher. I did so and now my game is completely crashed.

As soon as the Bethesda logo comes up the game immediately crashes to the desktop. Figuring I may have done something very wrong (I am very much a noob), I disabled all my mods (about 80) reinstalled Skyrim. It started working again though the Update.esm 'dirty edit' was back, but figured I am not going to play with fire again. So I updated my ini and restarted the game again and slowly started feeding my mods back in. I have used all these mods for quite some time now with no problems. I had less than a quarter re-activated, running BOSS as I always have and the game has gone south again, crashing as soon as the Bethesda logo comes up. Any idea as to what's going on?

Is there some way I can reset my game to prior running the TES5Edit? I obviously have no idea what I am doing with it and obviously screwed up in the instructions somewhere. Hopefully Gopher decides to add it to his list of walk throughs because now all I have managed to do is break my game.

I edited your post because all the "...." doesn't help make it easier to read at all.

I am sorry it appears that TES5Edit broke Skyrim for you. Also keep in mind that TES5Edit can't break Skyrim. I have done tech support for over 8 years. I have been in school to be a Physical Therapist but temporally quit to get back into the work force since as I work on my Bachelor it will be to expensive to do while being unemployed. This is going to be hard to do in a forum but I will do my best.

One reason it will be hard is because you can't easily tell me everything you have done. To you something that worked, or seems unimportant to mention, could be very important. That's why over the phone support is easier because at least I can ask clarifying questions as I go along. I can also actively listen and when I hear a mouse click or the customer using a keyboard I can ask what they are doing. Normally they think they can make changes I have not asked them to make because it's how they have been doing something in the past. However, that does not help especially in a situation like this.

Introduction and Acknowledgement:

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Here is what I see in your message:

You ran TES5Edit, and cleaned Skyrim.esm and when you went to clean Dawnguard.esm it caused issues
You ran the skyrim launcher and nothing changed
You disabled your plugins and reinstalled Skyrim and it still crashed after that.
You made Ini changes
You activated mods that were previously deactivated one at a time and ran BOSS as you have in the past.
Things were working up to a point but then, at some point the game started crashing again.

Here is what I don't see in your message:

You did not mention whether or not you use Nexus Mod Manager, and which version.
You did not mention what version of Skyrim you are using.
You did not mention whether or not you use SKSE and which version
You did not mention what version of BOSS you use and where it is installed.
You did not mention whether or not you use Wrye Bash
You did not mention which Ini file, or files, you altered and what you changed in the Ini file(s).
You did not mention whether or not you altered uGridsToLoad in Skyrim.ini and what value you set it to.

First things first. There is no restore point for Skyrim like there is for windows. I hope you did not or haven't ran that yet as if you do it really removes and changes files all over your system to the point that we probably can't resolve this in the forum. So don't get the idea to do that, or Google it and try it out. If you did then please be honest and tell me. I will try to help if you have done that, but it will make it really hard to do and I may have to give up at some point.

So when I read your post exactly as you wrote it you say you reinstalled Skyrim and then activated deactivated mods. You do know that's a contradiction. You can't do that because if you completely uninstalled and reinstalled Skyrim then the Data folder is empty. I'm only being very literal because you did something, Skyrim does not work, and now you are asking for help. So yes, I need to mention things like that.

If you don't completely uninstall and reinstall, and then copy files you may be missing important parts of the mod or you just copied a bunch of erroneous files and in both cases that will cause Skyrim to crash. If you use NMM but you don't know how to reset the install folder then it won't know that you uninstalled everything. So uninstalling everything, then using the original mod file to install the mod manually or installing the mod with NMM is very important.

When you clean Skyrim.esm and Update.esm you follow the instructions, then exit TES5Edit which saves the Update.esm but not Skyrim.esm because you only cleaned Update.esm. Then you open TES5Edit again, and then open Skyrim.esm, Update.esm, and Dawnguard.esm. This time you only clean Dawnguard.esm. This is an experimental version so as mentioned if you have never used it and don't know what it is, it might not be a good idea to use it. The Cleaning Guide didn't mention to clean one file at a time, since it is assumed users already know that before hand. This was mentioned earlier in the thread. So if you tried to clean one then the other in the wrong way that will cause a problem.

Before you start these steps ask questions to make sure you understand. Once you start following my steps don't stop mid way of you may not resolve your issue at all, and that could require another reinstall of Skyrim, but that may leave you in the same place.

So if you are going to start following these steps, then do what I suggest in the order I suggest it. Do so after you have read this fully at least once and understand all of it. If you don't use NMM Skip that part.

Step one:

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Before you do anything else, open up steam and make sure you are not subscribed to the Skyrim Beta. Don't do anything else because I am going to have you remove some files and we will come back to Steam later.

If you are using SKSE then make sure you are using version 1.05.11. If not don't install it. You could also delete the files that start with SKSE and copy the 1.05.11 files into the Skyrim folder where TESV.exe is located just to be sure you have that version.

Go to the folder where Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini are and make a backup of those files. For Windows 7 they are in C:\Users\[computer Name]\Documents\My Games\Skyrim unless you have configured something so that they are in another location. Use a zip program or whatever you need. Then delete them because we need default files to be sure what is happening. I will make INI suggestions later.

Now we need default files like plugins.txt and such. Go to C:\Users\[computer Name]\AppData\Local\Skyrim and you should see DLCList.txt and plugins.txt. Delete all the files you see here, including SteamModList.txt if it's there because they will all be recreated later.

Step two NMM:

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So since you already reinstalled Skyrim lets start with NMM. You need to make NMM think you don't have anything installed. I don't know where you installed it, but the important folder is called Install Info. It is something you can configure with NMM so open up the Settings panel by clicking on the gear at the top of the screen. You will see three tabs, General, Mod Options, and Skyrim. Click the Skyrim tab and look at the Install Folder and write down or remember it's location. Go to that folder and open Install Info. We will be deleting all the files inside of Install info (like InstallLog.xml, and InstallLog.xml.bak) here since they will be recreated. Just delete them or drag them carefully to the trash. Make sure you delete the overwrites folder also.

Step Three Data Folder:

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Now you need to work on your Data folder. There are two ways to do this. If you use Wrye Bash, and you have version 300 or higher there is an easy way. Don't go get it and install it if you don't already use it because it adds a new level of complexity to what you are trying to resolve. If you use the SVN version or v301 it's totally safe to do with Dawnguard and Hearthfire installed. If you have version 300 then it could delete important Dawnguard files, but it won't matter because they will be restored later. So again if you have it open it up and go to the Installers tab which is the first one. Right click the bar that says Package and go down to Clean Data, it will tell you what it's going to do. Click yes and let it remove the non Skyrim files in the Data folder.

If you have Wrye Bash and you just did what I mentioned above, then skip this part. If you don't have Wrye Bash then you need to have a somewhat clean Data folder before doing the next step. To get it clean enough for the next step open up the Data folder. You should only have the following files in that folder.



Notice in the screen shot there are no yellow folders. That is important, don't worry they will be restored later.

Step Four validate Skyrim's Cache:

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Since we have a clean Install Info folder and we are ready to install mods with NMM or manually if you don't, and since you have a fairly clean Data folder we need to get all the rest of Skyrim's files. This won't take too long because we left the really big files in the data folder. If you are not connected to the Steam Workshop do so now.

Open Steam Workshop. In Steam go to the Library tab, right click on "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim", click "Properties", go to the "Local files" tab and click the button labeled "verify integrity of game cache" This will get all the missing files you need to run Skyrim. If you have purchased Dawnguard or Hearthfire it will make sure they are up to date. This will also update any files that are corrupt or outdated.

If you have the Construction Kit you need to do this as well. However, we are going to skip this since it doesn't affect Skyrim at all. All the files that you get when you "verify integrity of game cache" for the CK are strictly for the CK.

Use the Skyrim Launcher, not SKSE if you have it installed. This will recreate all the configuration files, your Skyrim.ini, your plugins.txt everything. Now at this point you and I both know that you have everything you need to play Skyrim and it should start and won't crash at the logo. You should get to the screen where you can make a new game or load a save game. If it's working now I am not going to leave you hanging, however, understand that anything you do at this point can cause Skyrim to crash. Even if you have done it in the past if you don't know what you are really doing and just read somewhere to try this then it's going to cause issues and game crashes. After this step if you decide to follow anything else please remember I'm only human and I might leave something out since I know it should or shouldn't be done. You need to know what and why your doing something before you do it.

Step Five Installing Mods:

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Use NMM to install the mods you use or manually install them using the original file from the Nexus. Don't restore any kind of Data folder backup to save time. The game could crash if even one file isn't found that Skyrim wants. Just because you installed a few mods and run BOSS that won't cause Skyrim to crash. So even if it's a pain, only install one at a time, run BOSS, and then test it out. If it crashes before you get to the title screen then remove that mod. It doesn't matter if it worked before because you are using the latest non Beta of Skyrim. Many mods have Dirty Edits that cause issues which is the reason for the Release of TES5Edit and they need to be cleaned. Each time Bethesda makes a fix, yeah that fixes something, but it will break mods that have issues, that did not seem to have an issue because the data in them is outdated. That is what TES5Edit is made to resolve.

Since you did not have much luck with TES5Edit I can understand that you don't want to play with fire as you put it. So don't use it until the next version because it has been changed to make cleaning easier. I have also been working on two guides. I am going to make one for users that have used Edit in the past and don't need a lot of hand holding. The other will be for beginners that have no idea what to do or whats happening.

Step Six Making Ini Edits:

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If you had trouble with TES5Edit then don't make changes to your ini file yourself. One thing that causes a crash, not at the loading screen, but when you try to load a save game is uGridsToLoad in Skyrim.ini. What happens is that uGridsToLoad is saved in your Save Game like other ini and plugin settings. If the value in the save game is different from the Ini file, when you load your save game this setting will cause Skyrim to crash right away guaranteed. If you did ever edit this you need to set it to whatever it was before. Only save games with the same setting for uGridsToLoad will load at this point. You can fix save games and use a different setting but that is an advanced procedure and not one I'm willing to explain.

What I am going to suggest is to use Skyrim configurator to make your Ini file changes. It will make backups, and you can restore a backup at any time. Just never change uGridsToLoad with it either.

Now lets recap what we did. If you followed everything I have outlined you have done the following:

You made sure you are not using the Beta and you verified you have all of Skyrim's files as well as fixed any corrupt files
You created new load order files when you opened the Skyrim Launcher
You made sure you are not using a modified ini file which can cause Skyrim to crash
If you used NMM you made sure it knows you started with a clean Data folder so that it can properly keep track of your mods
If you manually installed files yourself, you now have all the required files so that Skyrim won't crash. The disadvantage being you can't uninstall loose files reliably such as textures, scripts, and other plugin related files.
If you make Ini modifications you will chose a method to restore your ini file if a change you make causes Skyrim to crash.

First off....I am getting the nagging feeling that Skyrim wasn't un-installed before re-installing, hubby did it for me and he is just as new to the world of PC's as I am, so a proper un-install/re-install maybe the first step?

I checked my SKSE to be absolutely sure, as that was the one who's version I am not 100% sure of and my suspicion was correct, I am running the 1.05.10 SKSE, not the new one, should I delete it? I would like to have SKSE but can worry about that later, just concentrate on fixing the damage I have done first?

Your next steps I feel I can achieve just by carefully following your instructions and should not be a great challenge for me. I do have two more questions in regards though:

1/ Are you advising I delete all my mods from Nexus? Start fresh as such in case any of the mods I have stored have been corrupted in some way or carrying information that shouldn't be there? I have already taken the time to write down every mod I have on paper and tracking the harder to find in preparation of the event of possibly having to do so. Going this route maybe a pain, but I am happy to go through it if that is what it will take to help stabilize my game and get it back to where it should be. I'm tenacious at best....

2/ As for the uGridsToLoad, from what I am understanding the 'uGridToLoad' is found in 'saved game' files and if information from that 'saved game' file is no longer present in the game it can cause the game to crash, correct? If that's the case my preferred solution would be to not have any of those 'saved games' at all, just wipe the lot and start again from the very beginning, aka treating it as if I have just purchased Skyrim and have no saved game history on my PC. As I mentioned above, I would much prefer a clean and stable game than trying to save myself from starting from scratch. Would this be the best solution instead of having to worry about what game I am loading in?

Just wanting to clarify what I am unsure of before I begin. Thank you again Sharlikran, I cannot express the extent of my appreciation of your generosity and patience in the time you are taking for me. A simple thank you just really doesn't feel enough.

[Sharlikran]

Well it looks like you didn't actually uninstall everything. I'll use the information and make the best suggestion I can. I hope this will be easy but through, and when you are done you get back to playing Skyrim. Lets see what we can do to make that happen.

First off....I am getting the nagging feeling that Skyrim wasn't un-installed before re-installing, hubby did it for me and he is just as new to the world of PC's as I am, so a proper un-install/re-install maybe the first step?

Nope, if you did not uninstall re-install as you first suspected, then don't do it.

I checked my SKSE to be absolutely sure, as that was the one who's version I am not 100% sure of and my suspicion was correct, I am running the 1.05.10 SKSE, not the new one, should I delete it? I would like to have SKSE but can worry about that later, just concentrate on fixing the damage I have done first?

Nope you are fine this is perfect information. Simply delete the the SKSE files in the folder where TesV.EXE is and make sure you have 1.05.11 installed. That's all you need to do for SKSE.

1/ Are you advising I delete all my mods from Nexus? Start fresh as such in case any of the mods I have stored have been corrupted in some way or carrying information that shouldn't be there? I have already taken the time to write down every mod I have on paper and tracking the harder to find in preparation of the event of possibly having to do so. Going this route maybe a pain, but I am happy to go through it if that is what it will take to help stabilize my game and get it back to where it should be. I'm tenacious at best....

Well you had said you re-installed Skyrim. With that said, if it happened the way all that normally does, it would leave you with an incomplete Data folder. Since the plugins may or may not have all their pieces when you activate one it might not work. So this part is tricky for me to make the best suggestion. On the one hand you may not have messed up the Data folder and if so it's a waste of your time to delete and reinstall everything. You will need to decide if you do step two and three at this point.

2/ As for the uGridsToLoad, from what I am understanding the 'uGridToLoad' is found in 'saved game' files and if information from that 'saved game' file is no longer present in the game it can cause the game to crash, correct?

You are partially right. Whatever it was set to at one point in the Skyrim.ini, is what is saved into the save game. When that setting is not the same for Skyrim, and the save game it crashes. This, is just a precaution, again because of something you said. You mentioned that you made Ini changes. So, I have no idea what they would be. However, I do know that if you start with fresh Ini files the uGridToLoad will be 5. If you had it set to any other value, and you think you get skyrim working; once you go to load a save game it's gonna crash. Which will send you on a wild goose chase to figure out why. Defiantly something I want to avoid.

Bottom line for uGridToLoad, is this. If you have no idea what I am talking about and don't remember ever setting that, then you don't have to worry about it. If you game crashes loading a save game, but you never changed uGridToLoad, then it's from left over plugin information. I have a save game I am hanging onto for when a Save game cleaner comes out. Mine crashes because of plugins and nothing else.

If that's the case my preferred solution would be to not have any of those 'saved games' at all, just wipe the lot and start again from the very beginning, aka treating it as if I have just purchased Skyrim and have no saved game history on my PC. As I mentioned above, I would much prefer a clean and stable game than trying to save myself from starting from scratch. Would this be the best solution instead of having to worry about what game I am loading in?

This really isn't needed. Now that you are giving me feedback this is like talking on the phone. I will listen think about it, clarify what you said, get more information, and then make a decision. I don't think you need to or should delete your save games.

Just wanting to clarify what I am unsure of before I begin. Thank you again Sharlikran, I cannot express the extent of my appreciation of your generosity and patience in the time you are taking for me. A simple thank you just really doesn't feel enough.

Don't worry about it. Becoming active in the Skyrim community follows with it the responsibility to fix situations like this even if TES5Edit didn't cause it. I do it simply because I want to and I, like you enjoy the game. It's as simple as that.

Decide whether or not to add Wrye Bash to the mix. Might not be a good idea at first, but then again it could be the key to getting you going. It's something to think about. If you can follow the instructions to install the Python Version and it's dependencies then the v301 SVN, or GNU Tarball, has python programming files with a complete list of Bethesda's files. With a few clicks it will empty your data folder of unneeded files and copy them to another folder. It could be useful if you decide to get rid of all your plugins. On top of that there is a save game tab that lets you easily view the plugins that were installed for any of your save games.

Also with Wrye Bash installed you can save your save games, and compare them to which plugins are loaded to make sure you don't have to start over with anything. It also has a quick and easy way to make a separate folder for corrupt save games. you can use the tool to move the ones that crash on load into a separate folder. It's really a great tool.

With all that said:

I would do Step one.
I would think about doing step two, three and five, but it's not really needed if you didn't completely uninstall everything. If a plugin causes a crash. Use NMM to uninstall it and the install it again. Any missing files will be installed. If it still crashes, uninstall it and move onto the next one.
I would do step four for sure.
After step four, do what is in the paragraph starting with "Use the Skyrim Launcher, not SKSE if you have it installed."
Step Six is also optional but that program will give you a way to easily make a change and then restore a backup if the change isn't to your liking.

If all else fails, you don't need to reisntall Windows, you don't need to reinstall Skyrim, or anything drastic. If nothing works, then you may need to do all the steps, and once you have a freshly verified Data folder and it's working, then start adding plugins one by one with NMM.

[Sharlikran]

Cleaning your plugins is now a three click process. Check out verison 3.0.23.

Edited by Sharlikran, 22 October 2012 - 03:09 PM.

[fragsnippy]

Can somebody please post a tut on how to clean the dawnguard.esm and update.esm.

[Sharlikran]

Can somebody please post a tut on how to clean the dawnguard.esm and update.esm.

There are links to Wiki Guides, not a video though if you are looking for that. Go back to thread #111 for the links. Also keep in mind I just barely took the screen shots, so the text does not match them at all. It will however, give you an idea of what to do.

[fragsnippy]

Can somebody please post a tut on how to clean the dawnguard.esm and update.esm.

There are links to Wiki Guides, not a video though if you are looking for that. Go back to thread #111 for the links. Also keep in mind I just barely took the screen shots, so the text does not match them at all. It will however, give you an idea of what to do.

Thnx Sharlikran, i have another question i know im suppose to deleted green background and dark gray text, i just took a look at dawnguard and im seeing a lot of pink background. What does that mean

[Sharlikran]

Can somebody please post a tut on how to clean the dawnguard.esm and update.esm.

There are links to Wiki Guides, not a video though if you are looking for that. Go back to thread #111 for the links. Also keep in mind I just barely took the screen shots, so the text does not match them at all. It will however, give you an idea of what to do.

Thnx Sharlikran, i have another question i know im suppose to deleted green background and dark gray text, i just took a look at dawnguard and im seeing a lot of pink background. What does that mean

It looks pink but I bet it's supposed to be red to some degree. I have to go to bed for work so go to the TES5Edit Wiki page for an explanation of colors.

[Sharlikran]

Can somebody please post a tut on how to clean the dawnguard.esm and update.esm.

There are links to Wiki Guides, not a video though if you are looking for that. Go back to thread #111 for the links. Also keep in mind I just barely took the screen shots, so the text does not match them at all. It will however, give you an idea of what to do.

Thnx Sharlikran, i have another question i know im suppose to deleted green background and dark gray text, i just took a look at dawnguard and im seeing a lot of pink background. What does that mean

Also go to the TES5Edit Cleaning Guide because it's a simple three click process.

Remember you load Skyrim.esm, Update.esm and clean Update.esm. Then close TES5Edit. Then you load, Skyrim.esm, Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, and clean only Dawnguard.esm. Don't clean both at the same time.