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Started by Kiois , Apr 12 2013 02:27 AM

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#11
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

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BOSS doesn't clean mods, just arranges their load order according to a 'guide' composed by the BOSS team through modder and mod users suggestions (or did you mean TES5Edit?). Even though you have just a handful of mods, I'd still like to see your BOSS log if you don't mind posting it.

 

Also, have you made any edits to the game ini files?

 

Apologies, my mistake. Yes, I meant TES5Edit. What I originally meant to say was that I used boss to reorder and TES5EDIT to clean.

 

I have made no modifications to the ini files themselves.

 

By BOSS logs do you mean the first page when it loads? If so it is below:

 

    Skyrim.esm Active
    Update.esm Active
        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    Dawnguard.esm Active
        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    HearthFires.esm Active
    Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
    Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:41 PM

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The BOSS log looks ok. I just wanted to see it to make sure you've cleaned the DLCs. Can you post your ini settings? Enclose them in spoiler tags.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:49 PM

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It could also be that you may need to lower your graphics settings, I experienced quite a few similar problems using the same ATI card that were resolved by reducing the graphics quality.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

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The BOSS log looks ok. I just wanted to see it to make sure you've cleaned the DLCs. Can you post your ini settings? Enclose them in spoiler tags.

 

Will do:

 

 

Skyrim.ini

Spoiler

 

 

SkyrimPrefs.ini

 

Spoiler

 

It could also be that you may need to lower your graphics settings, I experienced quite a few similar problems using the same ATI card that were resolved by reducing the graphics quality.

 

Shouldn't be the graphics at all.  I have been playing Skyrim since the game came out. The crashes are more recent (post installing Dawnguard). I will try playing it in a lower detail to see what happens.


Edited by Kiois, 14 April 2013 - 10:55 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

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fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000

 
Sometimes, if you have a below spec rig, tweaking the ini settings might help if you need to do that just to sustain playable framerates (I did this quite a bit when I was playing Skyrim with my old 512mb GPU). However, most user do not know and need to understand that the default ini values are optimized for 'stability', and tweaking some ini settings to 'excessively high' values either to improve 'performance' or to get rid of minor graphic glitches like distant LOD 'pop-in's' is basically demanding the game engine handle a workload that it may not be designed for. I've seen some of Gopher's videos and he does some of this himself, but quite frankly, it's just not a good idea and especially if you are experiencing stability issues. Given that your rig is probably not as powerful Gopher's gaming PC, it's may very well be incapable of handling those sorts of settings (on top of the fact that this is already stressing the game engine beyond normal parameters).
 
Aside from the 2 lines I quoted, you have a number of other ini tweaks. So, try going back to default in settings and see if your game stabilizes, even slightly. The quickest way to do this is to backup and delete your current ini files, then let the game generate new ones on next launch.


Edited by ripple, 14 April 2013 - 11:38 PM.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 12:09 AM

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fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000

 
Sometimes, if you have a below spec rig, tweaking the ini settings might help if you need to do that just to sustain playable framerates (I did this quite a bit when I was playing Skyrim with my old 512mb GPU). However, most user do not know and need to understand that the default ini values are optimized for 'stability', and tweaking some ini settings to 'excessively high' values either to improve 'performance' or to get rid of minor graphic glitches like distant LOD 'pop-in's' is basically demanding the game engine handle a workload that it may not be designed for. I've seen some of Gopher's videos and he does some of this himself, but quite frankly, it's just not a good idea and especially if you are experiencing stability issues. Given that your rig is probably not as powerful Gopher's gaming PC, it's may very well be incapable of handling those sorts of settings (on top of the fact that this is already stressing the game engine beyond normal parameters).
 
Aside from the 2 lines I quoted, you have a number of other ini tweaks. So, try going back to default in settings and see if your game stabilizes, even slightly. The quickest way to do this is to backup and delete your current ini files, then let the game generate new ones on next launch.

 

My set-up may not be fantastic but it is good enough to have played Skyrim on high detail for about a year. The problem of crashes occured post Dawnguard installation only. I never experienced a crash or even lag before Dawnguard. I still don't experience lag, just crashes.

 

I will, however, take up your suggestion of default and see what happens. I will do this tomorrow morning and will update you on the results. Thank you for your assistance, by the way, it is appreciated.


Edited by Kiois, 15 April 2013 - 12:11 AM.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 03:02 PM

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Okay, I took your advice and deleted both ini files and allowed the game to replace them. I then played the game, within about a minute, the game crashed.

 

Here are the files:

 

Skyrim.ini

Spoiler

SkyrimPrefs.ini

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:41 AM

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Both files contain

 

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000

 

If this is the problem, it is being produced by the game itself.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 02:42 AM

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I just checked my skyrimpref.ini (which contains only minimal edits), and the default value on my end appears to be:

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072 
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096

 

Edited by ripple, 16 April 2013 - 02:44 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 02:47 AM

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I just checked my skyrimpref.ini (which contains only minimal edits), and the default value on my end appears to be:

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072 
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096

 

 

What I will do is play it tomorrow morning with those settings. If it does not crash, then you are my dragonborn lord and Skyrim savour.

 

Again, thank you for your help by the way. It is very much appreciated :)


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