I think changing the shout cool down to .00 is what is messing up my game. Does anyone know about the "was equipped" message that appears just like any other message skyrim would tell you (ex. when you wake up and it tells you that you feel well rested. that kind of message). Also at http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Console_Commands_%28Skyrim%29 it says "player.forceav <value> <amount>Edit Should be avoided for use, as it overrides/ignores game's automatic calculations such as item bonuses, spell bonuses, etc. " So does that matter with the one debate posted above? or does it not matter? I dont care about who wins... i just dont want my game to be all buggy.