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kape001

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So I'm fairly new to modding BGS games. I'm awared that load order can affects stability and if not performance. But I still can't get it, how does load order actually works when I start the game? Does load order have to do with the problems I faced below?
My Fallout 4 mod list is around 250 mods, overall I'm quite happy with the results and performance. But I did came across some issues:

  • There's a mod called "Kill Tips & Hit sound", it basically add hit sound and prompt UI tip when you get a kill. Although it worked as intended, I often found that the sound and UI prompt are delayed(mostly about 3-5 sec).
  • Pip-boy is really laggy on DATA tab(where the quest is showed).I tried disabling every pip-boy related mods, but no luck.
  • Sometimes game crashes while I start to shoot on enimies, have no idea what is causing this issue.

Below I will post my mod list. I use MO2.

 

 

//Main Games
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm

//Main patches and some overhauls + ESMs that stick top
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
AAF.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
TortureDevices.esm
Devious Devices.esm
CWSS Redux.esp
SettlementKeywords.esm
TrueStormsFO4.esm
AAFThemes.esl
WashOutThatCum.esl
Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
BodyTalk3-RaiderNormalsFix.esl
HUDFramework.esm
Optimized Vanilla Textures.esp
LooksMenu.esp
BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
AWKCR - Mod Power Armor Engine Glitch Fix.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
Armorsmith Extended.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
TrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.esp
TrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.esp
TrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.esp
TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
ESPExplorerFO4.esp
GetDirty.esp
AkaWaterWorld(Build your own pool).esp
Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp
Quieter Settlements - Contraptions.esp
Quieter Settlements - Wasteland Workshop.esp
SSEX(Settlement Supply Expansion).esp
Fog Remover II (AIO) Combo 2.3.esp
Vivid Waters.esp
Insignificant Object Remover.esp
Wetness Shader Fix.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
dD - Small Splatter Size.esp
dD - Limited Blood Decals.esp
FO4 Seasons - Winter - AllDLC.esp
QuazVehicleOverhaul.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
FAR(Faraway Object Reform).esp
Dialogue Camera Sensitivity.esp
3rd Person Cam SmallFix.esp
dcc-palock(Take Your Cores).esp
PA-Quick Animations.esp
PowerArmorDelivery.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
AsianFace.esp
THBrows.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
KSHairdos.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
LewdMarks.esp
SlaveTattoos.esp
CumOverlays.esp
FO4HHS_AAF(High-heel System).esp
HHFootsteps.esp
HHFootsteps_extended.esp
Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
LooksMirror.esp
CheatTerminal.esp

//Below Are Weapons Related
PistolOverhaul.esp
PO_NukaWorld.esp
SAOAWKCR.esp
LegendaryModification.esp
LegendaryModification2LM.esp
LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp
LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp
LegendaryModificationMisc.esp
PipeGunRedux.esp
SAOPWO.esp
PWO_NukaWorld.esp
PWOAutomatron.esp
PWOShotgunAmmo.esp
PWOFarHarbor.esp
PWOPWPFarHarbor.esp
PWOLMPatch.esp
PipeWeaponsPaint.esp
ATOMsWizard By Mr Mobius.esp
Factor.esp
CROSS_CryoLance.esp
ASVektor.esp
DP_CaravanShotgun.esp
MTs255.esp

//I dunno why I put these here, but it seems fine.
LovingCait.esp
Idiot s!@£.esp
Paintings Kinky.esp

[A lot of outfits and armor mods here, might not be relevent so I skip posting these]

CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp
WestTekTacticalOptics.esp
HN66Fo4_Nails.esp
Campsite.esp
Faded Glory - Soundtrack Expansion.esp

[scrap Everything Related]

FireSupportGlitchWorkaround.esp
CompanionStatus.esp
Locky Bastard.esp
Stimpaks help you breathe.esp
OutfitSwitcher.esp
HoloDisplay.esl
WorldwideGhoulsV400.esl
KillTipsAndHitSound_by_tooun.esl
OWR_GOP.esp
Far West Minutemen.esp
FineZoom.esp
3dscopes-replacer(SeeThroughScope).esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp
XM2010_SniperRifle_SeeThroughScopePatch.esp

//Item Sorting Mod, I have DEF_UI installed first then install HUD Framework.
VIS-G Item Sorting.esp
[AWKCR VISG Patches]

//Some Loverslab mod below, since the AAF UP-TO-DATE guide said these should be at the bottom......
AAF_SEU.esp
FPEDogAddon.esp
FPESuperMutantAddon.esp
FPAttributes.esp
FP_SexualHarassment.esp
CombatStripLite.esp
DangerousNights.esp
Commonwealth Captives.esp
AAF_Spectators.esp
AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp

[some AAF Animations here]
[ultimate AAF Patch related .esp]

//These I believe are required by mod authors to put at the very bottom
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
skeletonfemaleplayerLMCC.esp
WelcometoGoodneighbor.esp
BostonFPSFixAutomatron.esp
BostonFPSFixAIO.esp
PlayerComments.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp
Cyber-Light Apartments.esp
RRTV_OverbossHideaway.esp
Eli_Hangman's Home.esp
Eli_FahabaShack.esp
Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp
PhotoLight.esp

 

 

Any help would be appreciated :)

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First, you made a user-friendly list with sections and details what mods need to be loaded where. Others just but the whole list and do nothing.

Second, I am NOT a modder nor an advanced user. Because I install as many mods as possible (atm 591 activated plugins (I had weeks ago almost 900 active plugins!!!)) I learned much about load orders.

Question:

Do you use Mod Organizer 2?

 

Did you install...

 

FO4EDIT?
Wrye Bash?
LOOT?
Buffout 4? (because you use AAF)
[and necessary/needed/important mods?]
(I have all installed/use them)

I would say that you should let LOOT sorts your load order - especially the Masters. It sorts the Masters - almost - correctly.
Then open Wrye Bash and see if it shows plugins with orange/red warnings. It tells you why they are load wrong. Then sort them MANUALLY above and or below their missing masters.

For the ,ESPs: LOOT does NOT sort them properly and messes up the load order, so looking in Wrye Bash is VERY important and sorting them manually.

LOST AWKCR VIS-G Patches: They need to be loaded LAST but BEFORE Pip-Boy Flashlight.

Scrap related mods: They need to be loaded LAST too (after LOST Patches).

I also have AAF, AAF animation mods and Ulf's patch and I also installed and loaded them as bottom as possible.

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There are many vids that discuss load order. Also the above-poster had good advice (though I believe you are using MO2not Vortex?) I can answer your query re: Kill Tips & Hit sound. That, I believe, is normal. Not sure why there is such a delay.

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