Hope For The Best, But Expect The Worst

[Zanderat]

I had originally written a very long winded wall of text. But really, my thoughts can be easily summarized. This is not about "collections" directly. But rather about the way this decision was handled:

• On July 1, the fundamental "tone" and goodwill surrounding the Nexus seems to have been tremendously damaged.
• The first and most damaging thing was the lack of respect shown towards mod authors by not allowing an "opt in" or "opt out" for their mods to be part of collections. I feel most would have allowed it, but the choice should be the creator of said mod.
• The second issue is the ability to remove/delete mods from the Nexus. There are many reasons why a mod author might want to delete a mod. Most wouldn't. But again, it is about respect. The was done so that these collections wouldn't break. But this shows more respect and importance towards the mod collection "curator". Shouldn't this so-called "curator" have to maintain/update their list if a mod were updated or removed? It appears to marginalize mod authors in favor of collections "curators".
• The last reason is the heavy handed moderation now going on. First, the comments section of the announcement post was locked. Then any other posts were locked/deleted with the excuse that such posts should be consolidated into the announcement post comments section, which also was locked.......... Second, and what triggered this post, was that mod authors are being booted from the GMAD for no reason. I am not talking about those who deleted their mods (choices have consequences) but in at least one case a mod author who was part of GMAD for ten years was kicked out even their mod was not deleted/hidden.

I was around when Robin (Dark0ne) created the Morrowind Chronicles and later the TES Nexus. He was one one of us. But apparently, not so much any more. For me, the fun factor of modding has been diminished. Things seem to have gone "corporate" literally overnight.

 

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I am not a published mod author (my mods are personal) but I have been around since 2001. So, I have perspective. I hope they back track some of this.

[HeyYou]

Yeah, I agree. And it saddens me greatly to see this happening. This could have been handled much better, and 99% of the drama associated with it would have been avoided. I have no idea what staff is thinking at this point, but, I can't say I care for the direction NexusMods is going.

 

I also don't expect this thread to last very long......

[Zanderat]

Me neither.... I have already screenshotted (is that a verb?) it.

[euph]

I had originally written a very long winded wall of text. But really, my thoughts can be easily summarized. This is not about "collections" directly. But rather about the way this decision was handled:

• On July 1, the fundamental "tone" and goodwill surrounding the Nexus seems to have been tremendously damaged.
• The first and most damaging thing was the lack of respect shown towards mod authors by not allowing an "opt in" or "opt out" for their mods to be part of collections. I feel most would have allowed it, but the choice should be the creator of said mod.
• The second issue is the ability to remove/delete mods from the Nexus. There are many reasons why a mod author might want to delete a mod. Most wouldn't. But again, it is about respect. The was done so that these collections wouldn't break. But this shows more respect and importance towards the mod collection "curator". Shouldn't this so-called "curator" have to maintain/update their list if a mod were updated or removed? It appears to marginalize mod authors in favor of collections "curators".
• The last reason is the heavy handed moderation now going on. First, the comments section of the announcement post was locked. Then any other posts were locked/deleted with the excuse that such posts should be consolidated into the announcement post comments section, which also was locked.......... Second, and what triggered this post, was that mod authors are being booted from the GMAD for no reason. I am not talking about those who deleted their mods (choices have consequences) but in at least one case a mod author who was part of GMAD for ten years was kicked out even their mod was not deleted/hidden.

I was around when Robin (Dark0ne) created the Morrowind Chronicles and later the TES Nexus. He was one one of us. But apparently, not so much any more. For me, the fun factor of modding has been diminished. Things seem to have gone "corporate" literally overnight.

 

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I am not a published mod author (my mods are personal) but I have been around since 2001. So, I have perspective. I hope they back track some of this.

Ever heard people saying how much "money changes a person"? Well...

 

[Zanderat]

I am pretty sure most of this would have been avoided if an opt out or opt in option was available. Not sure which is worse. The poor decision making to not allow it or the overly strict moderation around it.

[HeyYou]

I am pretty sure most of this would have been avoided if an opt out or opt in option was available. Not sure which is worse. The poor decision making to not allow it or the overly strict moderation around it.

I don't see an opt-out option ever being a thing. That would kinda defeat the purpose.

 

ALL of this could have been avoided if mod authors had simply been consulted about pending changes.

[showler]

 

Ever heard people saying how much "money changes a person"? Well...

 

Having a staff of seventeen people to pay each week is a factor as well. Nexus put two years of work into this plan based on a survey done in 2019. They handled things badly now, but that's a big investment to toss aside.

[HeyYou]

 

 

Ever heard people saying how much "money changes a person"? Well...

 

Having a staff of seventeen people to pay each week is a factor as well. Nexus put two years of work into this plan based on a survey done in 2019. They handled things badly now, but that's a big investment to toss aside.

 

They wouldn't have had to. All they would have had to do was ask mod authors their views, and consider what was said. Just a simple discussion. End Of Problem, before it even became a problem.

 

The survey that was done was about collections, nothing was mentioned about Nexus taking what amounts to ownership of authors mods in order for it to 'work'. And Nexus is the ONLY site that has taken that step. Steam has had collections for quite some time, and if mods disappear, it is up to the list curator to deal with it. They did not prioritize collection authors over the authors of the content those collections couldn't exist without.

 

In my opinion..... This could not have been handled any worse. Nexus well and truly dropped the ball here....

[Zanderat]

No one is saying toss it aside. At least, I am not. But it needs changes. First and foremost, "collections" should never over rule mod author control. If a mod author wants their mod not to be included, that is their right. For example, say a mod author makes a cute follower NPC mod and some mod curator adds it to a porno pack, that mod author should be allowed to opt out. I know that is an extreme example, but it is easy to see why that mod author should be able to control which, if any, collection their mod(s) is included in.

[Druuler]

Me neither.... I have already screenshotted (is that a verb?) it.

Yes, yes it is.