Skyrim SE - saves listed as corrupted

[twotonedearly]

Hey all, been having this problem for a while but while playing Skyrim SE I've noticed that my saves suddenly show up as corrupted. Also other things are effected in game due to this (NPCs don't react or talk during quests, text doesn't appear in any books)

I'm not sure what's triggering this to happen but whenever I close the game then reopen it the saves are back to normal.

here's my load order incase this is mod related.

GameMode=SkyrimSE

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl=1
ccbgssse003-zombies.esl=1
ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl=1
ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl=1
ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl=1
ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl=1
ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl=1
ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl=1
ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl=1
ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl=1
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm=1
ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl=1
ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl=1
cceejsse002-tower.esl=1
ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl=1
ccbgssse037-curios.esl=1
ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl=1
ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl=1
ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl=1
ccvsvsse001-winter.esl=1
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm=1
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm=1
ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl=1
ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl=1
ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl=1
ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl=1
ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl=1
ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl=1
ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl=1
ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl=1
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm=1
ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl=1
ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl=1
cceejsse004-hall.esl=1
unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp=1
climatesoftamriel.esm=1
FISS.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp=1
RASS - Visual Effects.esl=1
BetterStaffofMagnus.esp=1
Immersive Magic Overhaul.esp=1
templeoftime.esp=1
unlimitedamuletsandrings.esp=1
phenderix twin souls expanded levels.esp=1
rich merchants of skyrim.esp=1
repulsor beam.esp=1
potion of ultimate leveling.esp=1
50 more perk points.esp=1
phenderix the archmage artifacts.esp=1
phenderix the demigod artifacts.esp=1
dragonslayer.esp=1
valiantnordbow.esp=1
ancienttonguesgreatsword.esp=1
scarletvengeance.esp=1
giftsofakatosh.esp=1
phenderix the dragonborn artifacts.esp=1
phenderix magic evolved.esp=1
phenderix magic sounds improved.esp=1
FPSBoost.esp=1
dd - enhanced blood main.esp=1
ff7 bustersword.esp=1
llxbetterartifactsandnameditems.esp=1
miraak sword stat adjusment.esp=1
auriels holy bow - redux.esp=1
machikosburner.esp=1
kimono's witcher silver swords.esp=1
Personalized Music - No Vanilla Music v 6.0.esp=1
tbmchrysamere.esp=1
masamune advent children special edition.esp=1
bloodskalbladetemper.esp=1
FixCombatMusic.esp=1
bloodskal adjustment.esp=1
cbcraftablerobes.esp=1
diamondsmithingcomplete.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
StaffofMagnus_Improved.esp=1
moredragons.esp=1
akaviri dai-katana.esp=1
Dwarven Blasters.esp=1
console books.esp=1
Light Emiting Magika Sabers SSE.esp=1
shbblackguardset.esp=1
infiniteweaponcharge.esp=1
upgradeable silver weapons.esp=1
nexus_craftable_smeltable_soulgems.esp=1
black mage armor se.esp=1
static mesh improvement mod se.esp=1
redeaglesword.esp=1
briarheartsword.esp=1
dwemer storage cube - fully stocked.esp=1
ConanSwords.esp=1
Highlander Katana.esp=1
werewand.esp=1
miraak's loot enhanced.esp=1
icepenguinworldmapaddon-noclouds.esp=1
icepenguinworldmap.esp=1
temperebonyblade+2hfix.esp=1
infinity sword.esp=1
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1
lamposts of skyrim.esp=1
mrbs-uniqueloot-se.esp=1
enhanced vanilla magic.esp=1
dragonpriestmaskquestmarkers.esp=1
force spells.esp=1
eternian_sop.esp=1
sword_of_omens.esp=1
bettershapedweaponslw-xb.esp=1
azureaurasword.esp=1
yukianesa.esp=1
twohanded dawnbreaker.esp=1
FNAF 1 Playable Races.esp=1
pony_no_crash_mod.esp=1
bosmerarmormaty743.esp=1
merchantdeathpreventionproject.esp=1
j3x-autocrossbows.esp=1
magicka sabers unique.esp=1
hallgarthadditionalhair.esp=1
barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1
hirsute beards.esp=1
bling boxes.esp=1
dwemerrifle_th.esp=1
star_triple_gold_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp=1
lozbiggoronsword.esp=1
repulsorblast.esp=1
elven eternal shine armor.esp=1
lozmirrorshield.esp=1
skooma.esp=1
aetherius magic 2.0.esp=1
john f###### zoidberg!.esp=1
weightlesspelts_hides.esp=1
excalibursword.esp=1
Beasts of Tamriel.esp=1
gow_bladeofchaos.esp=1
lost key of nocturnal.esp=1
z1 gold vault worztide.esp=1
dragon souls to attributes.esp=1
cloaks&capes.esp=1
diversedragonscollectionse.esp=1
thunderchild - epic shout package.esp=1
Shout.esp=1
notice board.esp=1
get_no_dead_followers_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp=1
thief's gift.esp=1
masterofdestruction.esp=1
ds_weaponspack.esp=1
climatesoftamriel-nights-l2.esp=1
get_smithing_supply_chests_sepc_sp0ckrates.esp=1
tenebrae.esp=1
silmeri.esp=1
ghosu - project flintlock.esp=1
DFB - Random Encounters.esp=1
meekohuskyessential.esp=1
Eidolon's Edge.esp=1
Skycutter.esp=1
get_immersive_cheats_sp0ckrates.esp=1
Better Arcane Arrows.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
cheat room.esp=1
forceful_telekinesis.esp=1
Dragonborn Crafting Hall SE.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp=1
JaxonzRenamer.esp=1
sm_hf_staffenchanter.esp=1
frostmourne.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
dragon claw stands.esp=1
dwab.esp=1
The Wizard Warrior.esp=1
Tomebound.esp=1
ImprovedMeeko-UnarmoredHusky.esp=1
KvCrystalSword.esp=1
DawnguardArsenal.esp=1
AetherialCenturionGreatswordAndSwords.esp=1
CROSS_Crucible.esp=1
TrueStormsSE.esp=1
Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp=1
Vivid WeathersSE.esp=1
Vivid Weathers SE - Extended Snow.esp=1
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp=1
Vivid_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp=1
RealRainSEVivid.esp=1
pikapet.esp=1
Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1
TimingIsEverything.esp=1
Immersive Encounters.esp=1
point the way.esp=1
skyrimmod.esp=1
UltimateCombat.esp=1
UltimateDragons.esp=1
tbmunlock.esp=1
Reliquary of Myth.esp=1
RoM - Dragon Priest Masks Pack.esp=1
DogKing.esp=1
FarmBirds.esp=1
Kusanagi-No-Tsurugi.esp=1
SkyUI_SE.esp=1
AbyssalGreatsword.esp=1
Animallica.esp=1
stronger dawnfang.esp=1
Identity Crisis.esp=1
EnchantedArsenal.esp=1
Randomized Word Walls.esp=1
ELE_SSE.esp=1
Saadia.esp=1
AllEnchantmentsUnlocked.esp=1
cutting room floor.esp=1
RoM - CRF Patch.esp=1
DogSpotsFollower.esp=1
magicalcollegeofwinterhold.esp=1
phenderix the one ring.esp=1
MaximumCarnage.esp=1
penobscotwarbow.esp=1
asstormbringertwinsv2.esp=1
armageddonbattleaxe.esp=1
extra effect x3.esp=1
VampiricDawn.esp=1
SkullMother.esp=1
BloodyBones.esp=1
Arcanum.esp=1
Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
esoimports.esp=1
esoimports - dawnguard.esp=1
esoimports - dragonborn.esp=1
xpspells.esp=1
HO20_MonsterMash.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

[Spiritblade]

Same hear - corrupted saves and broken replies. Reallyt hoped somebody have an ide or several.

Spiritblade

[twotonedearly]

I hope so too

[anjenthedog]

Usually (for me) there are ~3 things that lead to such corruption

 

1) A glich. These saves are usually unique, and recalling an earlier save (after game closure and reopening if it doesn't do it itself via ctd) , sometimes several saves back, will resolve the issue going forward. Advise: Dump the bad save, regret any gains made during it, and deal with it. Unless you're a ninja or have one at your disposal, you're unlikely to save your glitched save, and even if you are or do, they may not be able to either.

 

- ps: why a glitch? I have no idea why. They do happen though. For me, they often happen after a particularly aggressive battle and are sometimes accompanied by other artifacts, although in game they're often resolvable leading to a presumption that "all's well", when in fact, all's not well at all

 

2) Installation of a new mod that screws everything up. These ae usually resolved once the offending mod is either fixed, or uninstalled and a save created prior to the installation is used.

 

3) "Undocumented" load order adjustments. Load order adjustments can in some cases result in critical mods having their ids changed, and any save expecting mod A in slot B (but getting slot J instead) and Mod X in slot H (now using slot T) will screw up reference ids and can result in widespread failure. (where I'm using capital letters to designate load order slot #)

 

This last one is problematic unless the user has first written-down/copy-pasted/etc the load order and has it at-hand for re-establishment in case SHTF. You can sometimes go back far enough in your save list to find one loaded prior to the mod(s) involved in this failure mode and get it to load ok, but in my experience, it usually means losing massive levels. (my worst was a forced ~40 level drop to find one that'd load)