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i have constant ctd in the college of winterhold just where there is a conversation with Mirabelle Ervine and that thalmor guy

i can't do anything in the college of winterhold because of the ctd

i do not have any mods that change or affect the college of winterhold in any way

also there is a weird texture glitch with everything flickering

if anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated, i have tried many ways to fix this myself but i have exhausted all possible options i could try

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Have you verified your game files in Steam? Might be corrupted files. Also, try to load a much earlier save, and fast travel to Winterhold, and see if you still have a CTD.

i played on a new save with all mods disabled, it worked with no CTD. i reinstalled all mods again and the CTD and those weird textures issues happen again.

the college of winterhold and volkihar are the only locations where this happens.

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What do you use as a mod manager? Your load order doesn't look complete, no USSEP, and you show a Mirai patch for GT of Ivarstead, but no zMirai.esp, and the game master files are not showing...

i use the NMM, i just didn't copy the whole list. and no i dont have Mirai, but somehow ended up having that patch there.

i have the master files, but just copied the list where the mods appear.

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Missing master files for patches, like zMirai, could cause CTD. Do you use LOOT to sort your load order? I think that you can get a complete LO from it. It's been several years since I used NMM, but I think that I am correct. Loot can also give some warnings when things are missing/not needed. If you don't have USSEP installed in a modded game, or even the base game, you are asking for trouble, since it was made to squash bugs/ctd.

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i do have USSEP

 

Missing master files for patches, like zMirai, could cause CTD. Do you use LOOT to sort your load order? I think that you can get a complete LO from it. It's been several years since I used NMM, but I think that I am correct. Loot can also give some warnings when things are missing/not needed. If you don't have USSEP installed in a modded game, or even the base game, you are asking for trouble, since it was made to squash bugs/ctd.

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