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Cannot for the life of me get "Speaking With Silence" (TG05) to start.


TomSkele

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I'm trying to do the Thieves Guild questline, but after talking with Mercer in Scoundrel's Folly, all that happens is I get the marker to upgrade my TG armor from Tonilia, Speaking With Silence doesn't start and Mercer doesn't leave the Ratway. I've tried doing the "setstage" command and reloading various different previous saves, but Speaking With Silence just refuses to start. Does anyone know if there is a way to fix this?

 

Here is my load order in case that helps.

 

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