Empty Cities

[bodiddley]

Hey guys,

 

I'm just at the end of a long session of organizing about 150 mods. Been using Wrye to install, Boss to order, OBMM for maps and shaders, Tes4edit to get all the distant textures sorted out and to clean a few dirty mods. Guess I'm starting to know my way around the modding side of the game ok. But... I made the inspired decision to put all the mods in my Bash Installers folder into their own sub-folders so as to have it all better organized. Found it too difficult to keep track of the install order after that. Moved it all back and voilà - something has got mixed up. Doors align correctly, then disappear into the void behind me and I can't get out of rooms. And, all of the cities are depopulated. Maybe only one or two guards left patrolling the city at night, and nobody else outside. Everything else looks great and is running fine. I have run BOSS again several times and repatched Bash. It's got me stumped - maybe one of you guys might have a suggestion for me.

 

Here's my install order for Bash and everything was annealed after I moved it back. Lots of the mods are listed as uninstalled, but that's only after I moved them...

 

 

Bain Packages:

 

-- 000 - Original Files.7z (36C08220) (Not Installed)
-- 001 - Unofficial Oblivion Patch - Manual Installer-5296-3-4-4.7z (118C8254) (Not Installed)
-- 002 - Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch - Manual Installer-10739-1-5-2.7z (9B2BA0BB) (Not Installed)
-- 003 - Unofficial Official Mods Patch - Manual Installer-9969-18.7z (DE683769) (Not Installed)
-- 004 - QTP3 UOP32 Patch 2dot3-11261.7z (AB6F3EB9) (Not Installed)
++ 005 - TQP v3-2-0-12859.zip (2161D264) (Installed)
-- 006 - A Takes All-27638.zip (56D943BA) (Not Installed)
-- 007 - Active_Inventory_Spell_1_2-17497.zip (EB1BB309) (Not Installed)
-- 008 - Alternative Start V1-66-11495.zip (98479553) (Not Installed)
-- 009 - AutoEquip4-34526.zip (ADA4C4A8) (Not Installed)
-- 010 - DenockArrow-9333-1.zip (61C1D746) (Not Installed)
-- 011 - Dude Wheres My Horse 100-3861.zip (33F64B70) (Not Installed)
-- 012 - Fast Travel From Interiors-5921.zip (C811C30E) (Not Installed)
-- 013 - Formid Finder 451-16704.7z (1E1A14D3) (Not Installed)
-- 014 - Harvest Containers-3979.7z (3170D3DE) (Not Installed)
-- 015 - Harvest Containers SI-3979.7z (A5E2C247) (Not Installed)
-- 016 - Improved Hotkeys v1_1-18571.rar (78572226) (Not Installed)
-- 017 - MD Saddlebags 3 RC1-2008.7z (4F8CA2D3) (Not Installed)
-- 018 - Menu Escape 0_7_1-10812.zip (D412B557) (Not Installed)
-- 019 - Operation Optimization 1_1_1-BAIN-22170.7z (4C11179E) (Not Installed)
-- 020 - Phinix_Better_Names_for_Wrye_Bash.rar (04A160D0) (Not Installed)
-- 021 - Smarter_Mercantile_Leveling_v165-10947.zip (102D4318) (Not Installed)
-- 022 - Toggle Shaders_v1_2-25512.7z (54C171D0) (Not Installed)
-- 023 - Quiet Feet MAX 2_0-12331.zip (A5EAAF5A) (Not Installed)
-- 024 - PasswallHome.zip (81AEFBEF) (Not Installed)
-- 025 - Clamshell_Cottage-26785.7z (9A8BD7AD) (Not Installed)
-- 026 - Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary-22135-3-21.7z (17794C02) (Not Installed)
-- 027 - City and Wolrd Aesthetics (DFBD9874) (Not Installed)
-- 028 - Every Body (00000000) (Not Installed)
-- 029 - ULComp172 BAIN-19370.7z (BE3F265E) (Not Installed)
-- 030 - Better Cities Permanent Resources-16513.7z (E40E8173) (Not Installed)
-- 031 - Better Cities Resources v5-2-4a-16513-5-2-4a.7z (59E33732) (Not Installed)
-- 032 - Better Cities v5-2-6-16513-5-2-6.7z (3C66C9A5) (Not Installed)
-- 033 - Better Cities - Unique Landscapes patches v1_2-13834-.7z (5B339713) (Not Installed)
-- 034 - Better Cities Resource Hotfix v5-3-3b-16513-.7z (1328649C) (Not Installed)
-- 035 - Animated Window Lighting System v5-5-4-19628.7z (C81E2E3B) (Not Installed)
-- 036 - All Natural 1-34-18305-1-34.7z (B16D10B3) (Not Installed)
++ 037 - Clocks of Cyrodiil-11778 (1).7z (D179B0E8) (Installed)
-- 038 - Let the People Drink-10223-2-6.7z (B5EACD6A) (Not Installed)
-- 039 - Thievery in the Imperial City-5156.rar (50868802) (Not Installed)
-- 040 - Reneers Guard Overhaul 256-5977-2-56.zip (50189A0A) (Not Installed)
-- 041 - Optimised Distant Land MAX 1_1-15278.rar (59C4AF31) (Not Installed)
-- 042 - MIDAS MAGIC SPELLS OF AURUM 0995-9562.zip (382DA995) (Not Installed)
-- 043 - MMM 37b3 Public Release-17784.7z (B73F7D20) (Not Installed)
-- 044 - Mythic Creatures.7z (09DD4847) (Not Installed)
++ 045 - Oblivion Cats v0.2b-2912.7z (2324C025) (Installed)
-- 046 - Supreme Magicka 0-90b-12466-0-90b.zip (8AC13A8A) (Not Installed)
-- 047 - ElsweyrAnequinaMod-25023.rar (92C8F872) (Not Installed)
-- 048 - Alluring Potion Bottles v3-33531.zip (11209B89) (Not Installed)
-- 049 - Alluring Wine Bottles.zip (40FE56AE) (Not Installed)
-- 050 - Armamentarium_v1-1-13884.7z (AEFDD79F) (Not Installed)
-- 051 - ArmamentariumKatanas.7z (DF54CCA2) (Not Installed)
-- 052 - Beautiful Stars-2520.rar (F15D5C23) (Not Installed)
-- 053 - Bloody Spray v1_6.7z (AAAFFD97) (Not Installed)
-- 054 - Book Jackets Oblivion Standard Res-5570.7z (85E26ABC) (Not Installed)
-- 055 - Book Placement v2 en-6262.7z (42B2736B) (Not Installed)
-- 056 - Hammerfist Shiny Gold-5629.zip (134A2459) (Not Installed)
-- 057 - Immersive Interiors 0-81-34199.zip (4E5DFBEB) (Not Installed)
-- 058 - Improved Fruits Vegetables and Meats-10487.7z (25769256) (Not Installed)
-- 059 - Improved Signs-9498.7z (DF914380) (Not Installed)
-- 060 - Leviathan Soulgems-10403.rar (A39E7537) (Not Installed)
++ 061 - Rainbows in Tamriel v3-8927.7z (691EDD31) (Installed)
-- 062 - Real Lava-6854.zip (7E51C686) (Not Installed)
-- 063 - Soulgem Magic 2_0-35393-2-0.rar (B9DE4920) (Not Installed)
-- 064 - WEPON Base Install Oblivion and SI-35560.7z (CFFEDBED) (Not Installed)
-- 065 - Install Order (3A8714BA) (Not Installed)
-- 066 - Apachii_Goddess_Store_v_1_6_Full-13437-1-6.7z (7E7C5CE1) (Not Installed)
-- 067 - BBB HGEC EVE RbrtsM Stock BAIN-35906-1-0.7z (FFF63B85) (Not Installed)
-- 068 - BBB Designer Body Spell-34762.7z (FBCC3264) (Not Installed)
-- 069 - BBB Dominatrix Suit with Bouncing Butt -35109.7z (E7102698) (Not Installed)
-- 070 - BBB for EVE-34324.7z (03FD9185) (Not Installed)
-- 071 - Long Top 7-zip-17186.7z (0DD36909) (Not Installed)
-- 072 - Underworld armor-25734.rar (C5D41A92) (Not Installed)
-- 073 - F-INevOblivion 1_0-19021.7z (9E486AF0) (Not Installed)
-- 074 - NPCs and companions and Talk with your hands-30829.rar (EDF20D25) (Not Installed)
++ 075 - Personality Idles Update 1.5.rar (C2989900) (Installed)
-- 076 - Ren_BeautyPack_v1_1_addrace.7z (D9730951) (Not Installed)
-- 077 - Rens Beauty plus Soya Hair Final-14451.7z (AA5D7BD0) (Not Installed)
-- 078 - Rens_Beauty_Pack_v1_1.7z (851E7A2A) (Not Installed)
-- 079 - babehair1.0-11210.rar (6B48C8AA) (Not Installed)
-- 080 - Facial Textures by Enayla-9534.7z (9D699DA5) (Not Installed)
-- 081 - Natural_Faces_v95-1965.zip (B8029D49) (Not Installed)
-- 082 - Danis13 BEAUTY patch for MD Natural Faces v11-6631.7z (1645049E) (Not Installed)
++ 083 - IFT Improved Facial Textures-5643.zip (7E98DEC4) (Installed)
-- 084 - Khajiit Replacer v2-31156.7z (20C0D662) (Not Installed)
-- 085 - Khajiit Face Retexture-7930.rar (3F61EDA4) (Not Installed)
-- 086 - tkHairPack01v12-14454.7z (1D6267D3) (Not Installed)
-- 087 - Vanilla Eyes Addon V2_1-8397-2-1.7z (98004130) (Not Installed)
-- 088 - WalkFastForward kf BBB Original Moving distance-38375.rar (43F63A84) (Not Installed)
-- 089 - Bearded NPCs-30140.7z (2EE539F3) (Not Installed)
-- 090 - Breton Elf Ears-15662.zip (3720E9E4) (Not Installed)
-- 091 - Umpa sexy walk v07-15829.7z (3EEB65F6) (Not Installed)
-- 092 - BBB for UmpaSexyWalk-34232.7z (EA041A69) (Not Installed)
-- 093 - Stylish _Jump _for _BBB-20459.7z (94E5AFA8) (Not Installed)
-- 094 - Working Eyelashes.7z (3BBBEA5C) (Not Installed)
095 - ==Last==

 

And the current load order as sorted by BOSS

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Jog_X_Mod.esm
02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]
03 Harvest[Containers].esm
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 Armamentarium.esm
06 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.2.5]
07 bookplacing.esm [Version 1]
08 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esm
09 UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
** Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.2]
++ USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0B Better Cities .esp [Version 4.7.0]
0C Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
0D All Natural.esp [Version 1.34]
0E All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34]
++ All Natural - MMM Patch.esp [Version 1.3]
** Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]
0F Better Bell Sounds.esp
++ Symphony of Violence.esp
10 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]
11 Rainbows.esp
12 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34]
13 WindowLightingSystem.esp
14 AliveWaters.esp
15 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
16 Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
17 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
18 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
19 Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp
** Personality Idles - Modified version.esp [Version 1.5]
1A ToggleShaders.esp [Version 1.2]
1B Pants Be Gone 1.2 Without Demoralize.esp
1C Pants Be Gone 1.2 With Demoralize.esp
1D AutoEquip.esp
1E FormID Finder4.esp
1F Get Wet.esp
20 P1DmenuEscape.esp
21 Streamline 3.1.esp
22 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]
23 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]
24 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]
25 Improved Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.1]
26 DLCHorseArmor.esp
27 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]
28 DLCOrrery.esp
29 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
2A DLCVileLair.esp
2B DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
2C DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
** DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]
2D Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0]
2E DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
2F ArmamentariumTest.esp
30 ArmamentariumKatanas.esp
31 ArmamentariumVendors.esp
32 LongTop.esp
33 Underworld Armor.esp
** Armamentium female.esp
34 Dominatrix Suit.esp
35 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp
36 DLCThievesDen.esp
37 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]
38 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.11]
39 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp [Version 1.0]
3A Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
3B Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
3C Harvest[Containers].esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3D Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp [Version 3.7b3p]
3E Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3F Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
40 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
42 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
43 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
44 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
45 Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp [Version 1.03]
46 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.21]
47 Clamshell_Cottage_v1.5.esp
48 Princess Passwall Home.esp
49 thievery.esp
4A Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
4B DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
4C DLCFrostcrag.esp
4D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]
4E Knights.esp
4F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.3]
** EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
50 Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp [Version 1.0]
51 ElsweyrAnequina.esp
52 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]
53 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]
54 xulTheHeath.esp
55 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]
56 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]
57 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]
58 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]
59 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]
5A xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.4]
5B xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.2]
5C xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]
5D xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]
5E xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]
5F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]
60 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]
61 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]
62 xulPantherRiver.esp
63 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]
64 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]
65 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]
66 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]
67 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]
68 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]
69 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]
6A xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]
6B xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.12]
6C xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.3]
6D xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.1]
6E xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.0]
6F Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
70 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Advanced Water Modification-2734.esp
++ Real Lava v1.2.esp
++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0]
71 Leviathan Soulgems.esp
++ Short Grass V3.esp
72 Soulgem Magic.esp [Version 2.0]
73 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]
74 ATakesAll.esp
75 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
76 Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
77 AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp
78 SetBody.esp
79 AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.esp
7A SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]
7B SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.90]
7C SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_VanillaSpells.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.90]
++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]
7D MidasSpells.esp
7E RenGuardOverhaul.esp
7F More Arrows Recovered-2169.esp
80 Denock Arrows.esp
81 Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp
++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp
++ FastTravelAllowed.esp
82 tkHairPack01.esp
83 babehair_EV.esp
84 babehair_DV.esp
85 PHVanillaEyesAddon.esp
86 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
87 Ren_Soya_KD's.esp
88 _Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp
89 KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
8A Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.2.5]
8B Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.2.4]
++ Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 4.9.5]
++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2]
++ Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 5.1.2]
8C Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 5.3.0]
8D Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 5.3.0]
++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0]
8E Better Cities - Thievery.esp [Version 4.8.0]
++ Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp [Version 5.2.1]
++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0]
++ -No- persistant enchantment glow fix-1843.esp
8F Obicos Ingredient Increaser v11-5131.esp
** GW71_Life_Detect.esp
++ a4VnlObSI_HiResHGEC-BBB-Fems+RmMales.esp
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34]
++ Breton Elf Ears.esp
90 Fearabbits Bearded NPCs BETA - No RBP Requirement.esp
91 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

[bodiddley]

Sorry to bump myself here, but further to the above post I just found all the Fighter's Guild of Chorrol hiding in the Chorrol Arch Tower. So, something has definitely got screwy in the NPC AI packages. Tried turning the AI on and off in the console but so far - no dice...