More Legion Influence (List Of Ideas)

[ToxicWhiteout]

So I asked about adding territory in the Arizona area and didn't have any luck, but I thought maybe there was someone willing to help out with something a little bit easier.

 

So as a lot of my other posts have suggested, I really like the legion. I don't think they have nearly enough support in the community, and there is a serious lack of mods for them.

 

Anyways this is going to be a long read, so if you're not interested in helping out or giving some sort of feedback/ideas you should probably stop reading here.

 

 

1. Add a quest to take over Ranger Station Echo. It's right next to cottonwood cove, and the rangers there are confident that they are safe. You could either lead a group of legionaries into it, or if that is too hard to make, just a simple quest that Aurelius of Phoenix or Decanus Severus gives you to take it over, which would result in XP, legion fame, and maybe a legion occupation or a greater legion presence in the area.

 

2. Legion patrolling certain areas. Certain areas that have been taken over by the legion like the Legion Raid Camp should be a little more populated, or at least have more legion patrolling the roads. I love the battle between the legion recruits and some traveling merchants near that camp.

 

3. Legion merchants. I would really like to see this. Even some traveling merchants in Legion Controlled areas or maybe at Cottonwood Cove or something that help the legion. I hate how all of the traveling merchants are always hostile to legionaries, no matter what.

 

4. More quests in general. The legion has very few side-quests, and I think there could be some great ones like "help sneak some legionaries into -INSERT NCR CAMP HERE- and help them take over." And then have that camp be occupied.

 

5. More troops at Nelson. I asked for something like this earlier but got no response so I thought it would just be easier to add more troops to Nelson, or maybe make some sort of assault on Camp Forlorn Hope that you can help out with.

 

6. More commanders. There is a serious lack of leadership in the legion camps, and I've seen most camps go without any sort of commander or leadership at all. Maybe if you kill a certain leader then legionaries stop respawning at that camp, or visa versa where if you kill an NCR commander, the legion takes over the camp.

 

7. Helios One. This is a big one for me. After killing the NCR troopers at helios one, the legion sends a mere two soldiers there, and the faction on the main map doesn't change. Realistically control of Helios One would also mean access into Novac (which is guarded in the front by Boone, but the legion can easily slip in the back) and it would mean an easy route through the Scorpion Gulch/Hidden Valley areas. Something as simple as adding more legionaries to Helios One after the takeover or maybe a small assault quest to kill all NCR related citizens in Novac (Boone, Manny Vargas, and Ranger Andy) before having the legion come in for security. This is also where the Legion merchants could come into play as well.

 

8. Another Camp about halfway up the coast. So the Legion controls lots of areas in the southeast portions of the Mojave, but there are also locations like Ranger Station Charlie and Legion Raid Camp that are closer to the middle of the map, which sort of begs the question. Did they manage to walk all the way from cottonwood cove through the ghouls, Ranger Station Echo, and camp searchlight without any sort of fight along the way? I feel like some sort of camp about halfway up the coast or maybe legionaries walking from Cottonwood cove to the raid camp is needed.

 

9. Last one! I really want more battles between the factions. Even if it means adding more NCR guards at some outside areas of some bases and just adding a couple of legionaries that are bound to lose, I think it's needed. In the vanilla game there are so many NCR troopers that the NCR could just take all the rangers from, say, three ranger stations and maybe some of the troopers and rangers from Camp Golf and wipe out the entire legion presence in the Mojave. I want to see that the NCR is being pushed, under constant threat from the legion, and struggling just to survive. Obviously the battles would just be at certain areas, but I think there is some way it could be implemented.

 

If you read through the whole thing, thank you, and if you didn't, I just listed a few things I wanted to see that involved the Legion. I don't know how to mod, but if anyone who does likes these ideas, it would be great to see a couple of them implemented.

 

[dangman4ever]

Not even going to bother quote that one by one:
#1, #4, and #7 will be the more difficult ones to do as even adding basic fetch quests can take a bit of time. With that said, in regard to #4, there is the 5th Cohorts Division Remastered and Edited mod that adds a Legion quest line in a new world space. In additon, you might want to wait for/check out someguy2000's Siege of Firebase Zulu mod to be released as there is also a Legion questline there as well.

#2 and #9 Doesn't the Increased Wasteland Spawns mod do this already? Also, might be worth checking out the Warzones mod.

#5: The mod New Vegas Uncut - Outside Bets kinda does what you want. In the mod's notes:
- Restored - Random battles now once again take place in the no-man's land between camps.
- Restored - a huge number of NPCs that were disabled in both camps. Attacking either side will now be more difficult.
- Restored Nelson extra Legion soldiers.
- Restored - Post attack events. If 'We Are Legion' is successfully completed, The Legion storm the camp and kill anyone left, and dump the bodies in a mass grave in the graveyard. After two days it will then be infested by Cazadores. Nelson will now actually be occupied by NCR troops if they take the location back.

So if you don't have that mod already, might be worth a try. Though I highly recommend using it with a new save in order to make the random battles happen correctly.

#6. Did you mean to say you wanted more Centurions? Because most of the Legion camps have at least a Recruit decanii who are officers in Caesar's Legion. So it's not entirely truthful to say that they don't have any leadership at all. Prime decanus and Veteran decanus also count as "leadership". In fact, it says so in their names: "The Latin word decanus means chief of ten." Dead Sea and Alexus have the same rank of decanii.

In addition, there's also the rank of Veteran Legionaries which you should see at some camps. That also counts as leadership.

The next rank above decanus in the in-game lore is "Centurion." However that wouldn't exactly seem lore friendly considering that the Centurion rank is one of the highest ranks for a Legion member to attain. So it would be weird to appoint them to command small outposts of little importance.

#8 There's already a Legion camp along the coast: If you go to the Techatticup mine, head east from there down a cliff and you'll see a small Legion camp of 8 soldiers. Also, the Legion hold on Nelson would also provide another transit point for Legionnaries to infiltrate through. The fact that there are two Legionnaire bodies directly in front of and down the road from the giant Novac dino leads some credibility towards that.

Also, there is the Legion safehouse that's south of Nipton. That would mean that there is a southern route that Legionnaires could travel through.

Edited August 21, 2013 by dangman4ever

[ToxicWhiteout]

I'm not going to bother quoting that entire thing either, but thanks. I can see that you put a lot of work into your reply. I have all of the mods you listed, but I didn't know they do all that. Thanks again. I still think that if anyone wants to add some form of legion quests it would be really useful, as the legion really doesn't have much of a foothold in the Mojave and whether it takes away from lore or not, the legion is invading the coastline so there should at least be some legionaries.

[devinpatterson]

You may want to post this in the indpenedent NV thread or link to it there, since we may be doing a small legion specific mod and this info would be useful.

[ToxicWhiteout]

You may want to post this in the indpenedent NV thread or link to it there, since we may be doing a small legion specific mod and this info would be useful.

Alright thanks, I'll do that now.