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Load Before-After dialogue user friendly gui please


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This is a bit hard to sum up in a Title so here is what I mean:

 

First, here's a video of the irritants:

 

The problem is that all I need to do in THIS example is to define when to load Fair Skin Complexion for CBBE. BUT, you list me a heck of a long list of all the mods it touches. Every single time, I need to scroll and find THAT place where all drop downs are "???" and apply my load orders there.

 

My proposed solutions, 1 or the other but at least 1 of them, please!

 

A. Only show the mod which has all "???" drop down boxes BUT also add a small link at the bottom of the window permitting you to "Show All". (prefered way to my opinion)

 

B. Show the mod which has all "???" drop down boxes at the very top and list the rest at the bottom.

 

When you install hundreds of mods, this becomes very tiring and discouraging to always have to manually navigate somewhere in that long list just for your freshly installed mod.

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see that "hide resolved"? hit that - any time you resolve a before/after the resolved mod and its choices are removed. say goodbye to scrolling.

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see that "hide resolved"? hit that - any time you resolve a before/after the resolved mod and its choices are removed. say goodbye to scrolling.

Very very bad idea. Once you load after ALL, everything just dissapears and you need to reclick on the Show button if you want to revise to be sure. This button is a lazy solution that does not NOT fit under USER FRIENDLINESS. This button also constantly needs to be clicked. VERY very NOT user-friendly.

 

I still maintain my 2 suggestions and think that this section should be better thought.

 

Thanks for pointing out this possibility but it sure does not solve this issue.

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Honestly, your suggestion sound like exactly what the "hide resolved" option achieves. That and the search box can be used to narrow the focus on what you're seeing.

It's exactly NOT the options I made. Let me make it clearer:

 

When you HIDE resolved, it indeed hides all resolved items except those with "???". Once you have selected the load order, these items immediately disapear. This is a BIG NO! If I want to double check, I need to RE-show all mods and scroll the list once more.

 

The hide button also does NOT offer my other possible solution to put all recently installed-unresolved files listed at the very top of the window instead of scatering them in alphabetical order somewhere in the middle of the huge mod list.

 

Look - Nexus, This is an idea to improve the mod load order window. Vortex is far from being flawless and I am just siggesting something that will remove an irritant and add more to the user-friendliness. That's it!

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would a "show resolved" button help you in your efforts?

Really? I do not know how to be clearer.

 

The problem I am rising here is the exact same problem as the new Windows 11 context menu. When you right click on a file and want to do basic stuff usually available through the normal menu, you need to click on "Show more options". That's an extra and totally useless click removing user friendliness.

 

Why add more clicks for something that can be managed immediately?

 

The point I am saying is that clicking on buttons to enable and disable stuff is not a solution. AND, may I also remind this portion here:

 

 

...If I want to double check, I need to RE-show all mods and scroll the list once more...

 

The problem is the amount of different clicks to do that are not intuitive and not user friendly. Remove clicks, make the action easier to handle and simplify the process. That's very basic GUI programming practices and I am just shelling out an improvement that can be done without needing to go through patched buttons and other stuff.

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The problem is the amount of different clicks to do that are not intuitive and not user friendly. Remove clicks, make the action easier to handle and simplify the process. That's very basic GUI programming practices and I am just shelling out an improvement that can be done without needing to go through patched buttons and other stuff.

 

this isnt in any way helpful.

 

what clicks should be removed?

what should they be replaced with?

what's not inuitive about saying mod A loads after mod B? what's not user friendly about it?

what do you suggest to make the action easier to handle and simplify the process?

none of this is GUI programming practices, as there's no programming mentioned in your brain dump other than "less clicks"?

what is the improvement you're "shelling out"?

 

details - give details.

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so you dont want to click stuff?

what do you want then? perhaps an optical interface where you can simply glare at your screen?

Whoa! Please be respectful! I am just giving out an opinion on what I think Vortex lacks in it's user interface. You answered earlier that you were good with how Vortex works at the moment, that's fine for you! I respect that. But please also respect my point of view and that I am providing some feedback on a possible improvement.

 

I did not think this thread would turn into a conversation from one point of view against another one. I thought this was a place to shell out ideas for the Vortex team to view and think about. I can mod Skyrim without any problems but after re-installing my whole game about 13 times during the passed 6 months and installing over 400 mods every time, I kind of get annoyed at the recurring mandatory useless clicks and I just think this interface can be improved.

 

I think that if a Vortex admin sees this thread, the idea is now entirely covered and explained in details.

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