Getting alot of CTDs, been trying to nail down the source for months

[blackhand8657]

I'm honestly at my wits end with this crap. Been getting CTDs for months and every time I think I find the problem and everything seems fine... BAM = Crash. Its usually at Sanctuary (of course). Fast traveling to Sanctuary causes CTD and also trying to load a save in Sanctuary CTDs too. I ditched Scrap Everything because I thought that might have been the problem and just used Jenncave's Clean and Simple settlement mods (loaded absolutely last). Still crash. It also crashed yesterday going into the weapon workbench (first time for that one). I've also been reading AWKCR being outdated could cause crashes too, but also that AWKCR in general causes CTDs too. I am at a loss and am hoping someone can shed some light on the problem because its getting pretty frustrating. Thank you

 

My mod load order is below. *273 Active Plugins (ESL = 11 / Light plugin = 39)

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
Snap'n Build.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
Damage Threshold.esm=1
CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm=1
NAC.esm=1
Stronger Behemoth.esl=1
AORobcoReconScope.esl=1
GCM_DLC_Automatron.esl=1
GCM_DLC_Far_Harbor.esl=1
UNSCCrewpack.esl=0
BanishSettlerButton.esl=0
Special Shelves.ESL.esl=0
HoloDisplay.esl=0
AutoLaserMusket.esl=1
GKX Institute Loot.esl=1
MacVaultLooter.esl=1
SSTWorkshopPowerPack.esl=1
PlasmaArsenal.esp=1
CW32Pistol.esl=0
Geckos.esl=0
Mantis.esl=0
NoRadratExplosion.esl=1
IceStormsGRL45.esl=0
MWSentryTurret.esl=0
HUDFramework.esm=1
ParkBlood.esl=1
CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp=0
BAM-BetterArmoryMod.esp=1
CROSS_Blades.esp=0
CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp=0
CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp=0
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
WeaponWallRacks.esp=1
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SKE.esp=1
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power SKE.esp=1
XHomemakerLightsNoShadow.esp=1
CleanSettlement Snap'n Build.esp=1
CBBE.esp=1
GCM.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
EyesoftheUniverse.esp=1
Glowing Eyes.esp=1
BetterGenerators.esp=1
LegendaryModification.esp=1
Eli_ArmourCollection.esp=1
Eli_Accessories.esp=1
Eli_RuggedOutfits.esp=1
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp=1
Eli_WastelanderClothing.esp=1
BetterSettlers.esp=1
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp=1
BetterSettlersHeavyArmorOnly.esp=1
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp=1
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp=1
ImmersiveScrapping.esp=1
Move that Workbench!.esp=1
All Military Skin pack.esp=1
Scouter_V1.1_by_Ruddy88.esp=1
DiamondCitySWAT.esp=1
Female DC Security.esp=1
Lots More Facial Hair.esp=1
no_level_reqs.esp=1
Moref*#@inMeat.esp=1
CleanSettlement.esp=1
CleanSettlement Beds.esp=1
Clean Wasteland Workshop.esp=1
PortableContainer.esp=1
PortableRecycler.esp=1
CROSS_Jetpack.esp=1
Professional Ammo Crafting.esp=0
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Far Harbor DLC.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Nuka World DLC.esp=1
This is MY Bed (Extended).esp=1
GruffyddsSignsAndPosters.esp=1
NoLocalLeader.esp=1
TraderShipments 2.esp=1
VendorCaps_4000.esp=1
AlienBlasterZetanOverhaul.esp=1
Expanded Railway Rifle Mods.esp=1
Gauss Full Less.esp=1
MiniGen power.esp=1
RangerSequoia.esp=0
SmallerPowerConduitsMS3.esp=1
WorkingTableLamps.esp=1
SolarPower.esp=0
DogBed.esp=1
RealTroughs.esp=1
ehtyeci_MPX.esp=0
DP_CaravanShotgun.esp=1
HuntingShotgun.esp=1
BF1 Animations - Double Barrel Shotgun v2.3.esp=1
AKSounds.esp=1
MG42.esp=0
G11.esp=0
RU556.esp=0
Modular Arms Crucidox Edit - AR15.esp=0
TrijiconREAPIR.esp=0
Mac10.esp=0
M1A.esp=0
APC9.esp=1
APC9_LeveledListPatch.esp=1
Kbar-32.esp=1
M60-M60E3.esp=1
Skb_MachinegunsRebirth.esp=1
Skb-MinigunsRebirth.esp=1
MWRam7.esp=1
MP7.esp=0
Laser Musket Mods.esp=1
RemoteExplosives.esp=0
MA37.esp=0
AX50.esp=0
FOrigin12.esp=0
P99.esp=0
SingleShotgun.esp=1
F4CW10mmSMG.esp=0
L96A1.esp=1
L96A1_Additions.esp=1
KrissVector.esp=1
HK_MP5.esp=1
ImiUzi.esp=0
ImiUziLvlList.esp=0
G3A3.esp=1
G3A3LvlListPatch.esp=1
WattzLaserGun.esp=0
Minigun Gau-19B.esp=1
Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp=1
Quad_Accelerator.esp=0
Quad_Fusillade.esp=0
Quad_RAWLauncher.esp=1
X12Plasmacaster.esp=1
LightsaberMod.esp=1
XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp=0
RussianAssaultPack.esp=0
G3Family.esp=0
CazadorML.esp=0
Friffy_Fixed Rugs.esp=1
CHKFlora.esp=1
cartman1975_warehouse.esp=1
ImpactBaseballGrenades.esp=1
IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1
Perk Magazine Material Fix.esp=1
Fortune Finder Redone.esp=1
Recruitable NPC Dialogue Fixes.esp=1
XCraftingRecipes.esp=1
Faction Field Outfits.esp=1
Balaclava.esp=0
NeoX_Balaclava.esp=1
MercenaryOutfits.esp=1
MiscOutfitPackv2.esp=1
Crimsomrider's Tomb Raider.esp=1
MyCart_Biohazard.esp=1
OakleyMFrame.esp=1
RBJustin.esp=1
Heavy BoS.esp=0
Ballistic Marine Wetsuit v1.2.1.esp=0
NomexGloves.esp=0
Weapon Rack Extended.esp=1
DBZ Pictures.esp=1
NO NPC GREETINGS.esp=1
ManufacturingExtended.esp=1
Converging_Conveyors.esp=1
CompactCrafting.esp=1
CapStorage.esp=1
Siles - ModernMagazineShelf - transparent.esp=0
ZerasPaintings.esp=0
Invisible_Guard_Marker-SKE.esp=0
AdvSettleTurretSet.esp=1
PackBrahminsToEyebots_ALL.esp=1
AES_Renovated Furniture.esp=1
aes_rendeco.esp=1
Fusebox Generator - Less Power, More Resources.esp=0
workShopDashButton.esp=1
LunchboxDrops.esp=0
UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp=1
SettlementGarageSale.esp=1
Galac-TactREDUX.esp=1
BOS_overhaul.esp=1
Railroadheavy.esp=1
TacticalCourser_Standalone.esp=0
TacticalCourser.esp=1
[MW2R] Shadow Company.esp=1
MW-Farah.esp=1
ParkCoventry.esp=1
DominoLynxOutfit.esp=1
Assault Marine Armor Redux.esp=1
MGSOutfit.esp=0
TFRangerGear.esp=0
Desert Ranger Combat Armor.esp=0
NVRH Enhanced.esp=0
BZW_HEV_Suit.esp=0
Kerrigan.esp=0
KerriganGlasses.esp=0
KerriganColorChange.esp=0
NanoArmor.esp=0
NanoArmor_AWKCR_AE.esp=0
MYLadyKillerBed.esp=0
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceRemastered.esp=0
ImmersiveLoversEmbraceMagnolia.esp=0
BOS Uniform Aesthetics.esp=0
FOC_NCR_Armors.esp=0
Rangergearnew.esp=0
John Wicks Revenge Suit.esp=0
Nexus_PMC.esp=0
PMC_extended.esp=0
Courser Ghost-Spectre X-92 Armor Mashup.esp=0
F4NV-AMR.esp=0
F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp=0
CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp=0
Yet Another Piper.2F1E.esp=1
Yet Another Curie.esp=0
Scarlet_to_Cait.esp=0
NukaVimRack.esp=0
Targeting HUD Enhanced.esp=1
WeaponDisplays.esp=0
Rebuilt_HomePlate.esp=1
NoRadscorpionTunneling.esp=0
JCWBuilder.esp=1
Cute Rylee.esp=1
Kasumi vanilla.esp=1
Cute Magnolia Vanilla.esp=1
More Realistic Cats.esp=0
SettleObjExpandPack.esp=1
ProvisionerSupplyContainers.esp=1
Locksmith.esp=0
Provisioner Tracker.esp=0
Reload Sounds.esp=1
SnapBeds.esp=1
dinoshelf.esp=1
dinoshelf_extra_ammo.esp=1
dinoshelf_retex.esp=1
Passthrough.esp=1
BasementLiving.esp=1
NoCameraFilters.esp=1
Tougher Vertibirds.esp=1
SpotlightFix-300-Shadow.esp=1
Wasteland Workshop Streetlights.esp=1
exotic_lights.esp=1
Better High Tech Lights.esp=1
Colored Workshop Lights.esp=0
Vault-Tec Workshop Overhaul.esp=1
personelforcefields.esp=1
TeleportersFastTravel.esp=0
XBetterRobotLoot.esp=1
No Combat Music.esp=0
Relight.esp=0
BetterWSG5.esp=0
DLCLetters.esp=1
US Cerruti Private.esp=0
Army Objects By C & M4k4rov.esp=0
Cerruti-M4k4rov_US_Vehicles_Pack.esp=0
USAF.esp=0
SettlementDefenceSystem.esp=0
TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp=1
personal paintings.esp=1
InsElevator.esp=0
SR_Settlement_Signs.esp=1
GrafsSecurityFences.esp=0
AerysNPCs.esp=1
Great Actors - Companions.esp=1
Great Actors - NPCs.esp=1
Glowing Animals Emit Light.esp=1
PA-Quick Animations.esp=1
Spec Ops Paint Job.esp=1
Enclave Paint DLC.esp=1
Enclave-X02.esp=1
Bunker1A.esp=1
JP_InstituteVault.esp=0
AutomatronUnlocked.esp=1
EqualArmor.esp=1
AutomatronWheelLegs.esp=1
MrHandyFactoryPaint.esp=0
Betterautomatronweaponsandbots.esp=1
ModdableRobotSettlers.esp=1
RobotFaceLightColors.esp=1
Automatron Clean Paint.esp=1
XNoGaussRifleExplo.esp=1
DeadlierDeathclaws.esp=1
Skip DIMA memories.esp=1
Clean Water - Tropical.esp=1
BetterStores.esp=1
Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp=1
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-NoDLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp=1
Melee Replacer.esp=1
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real.esp=0
AdvBubbleTurretSet-Real-SKPatch.esp=0
SelectMarkMacTurret.esp=1
CusMarkMacTurret.esp=1
Wastelander's Cookbook.esp=0
SolarPanel.esp=0
Eli_Display Shelves.esp=1
Nuka-MixUniqueTextures.esp=1
RRTV_NukaRecipeRetextures.esp=1
GoldBars.esp=1
ExoticWorkshopCreatures.esp=1
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp=1
jsrs.esp=1
JSRS_Fallout4.esp=1
JSRS_NukaWorld.esp=1
JSRS_FarHarbor.esp=1
JSRS_Regions.esp=1
1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp=1
MK18.esp=1
GIAT_FAMAS.esp=1
Famas_Addon.esp=1
Mossberg500.esp=1
M2Agency.esp=1
M2AgencyLvlListPatch.esp=1
CombinedArmsNV.esp=1
M203.esp=1
Glock19x.esp=1
CombinedArmsEXPack.esp=1
Mossberg500_OlTrusty.esp=1
PPK.esp=1
MG69.esp=1
Quieter Settlements - Vanilla.esp=1
Better Settlement Defence.esp=1
NAC-FarHarbor.esp=1
NAC-NukaWorld.esp=1
NAI.esp=1
ClassicBehemoth.esp=0
W.A.T.Minutemen.esp=1
MilitarizedMinutemen.esp=1
BLUE WATM-MilM Patch.esp=1
AVBPipeGunsReplace.esp=1
LostWorld.esp=1
MiRF.esp=0
fo3friedghouls.esp=1
Better Explosives Redux.esp=1
ImprovedNuke.esp=1
3dscopes-replacer.esp=1
3dscopes-replacer-robcorecon.esp=1
VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp=1
Root Cellar shelter.esp=1
TransferSettlements.esp=1
Crazy Safari.esp=0
Ground_Vanilla.esp=1
Sanctuary Cleaner Roads.esp=0
The Castle.esp=1
Super CAS Sanctuary and RR Startup.esp=1
Super Clean and Simple - Oberland Station Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Abernathy StartupGift.esp=1
CAS Warwick and Magnificent Spectacle Island.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Coastal Cottage Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Croup Manor Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Jamaica Plain Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Kingsport Lighthouse Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Starlight Drive In Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Sunshine Tidings Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Taffington Boat House Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Ten Pines Bluff Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Egret Tours Marina Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Finch Farm Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Graygarden Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Greentop Nursery Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Murkwater Construction Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - Nordhagen Beach Startup.esp=1
Clean and Simple - The Slog Startup.esp=1

Edited December 18, 2021 by blackhand8657

[xrayy]

have you changed your graphics card to a newer turing card or better and you cannot run to vault 111 without ctd? if yes read this.

[HeyYou]

Ya think 273 mods might have anything to do with it??

[greekrage]

I see with a fast look that you have 2 mods that edit sanctuary..... that alone could cause issues...

Also note that if youre using the same save/character to test you arent going to ever find the culprit since saves hold data from previous mods used as well and even though you may have removed a mod ...data from that mod is still in the save.

A cdt could be caused from a lot of things and from something noticeable to something totally unrelated and minor...

 

Then we have the hardware aspect of the problem like a rig not up to specs that isnt loading fast enough causing time-outs,overwhelmed from too much to process,drivers,Background applications eating resources..etc etc.

Unless you start a fresh profile in your mod manager and slowly add mods and test as you go youre never going to make sense of it...

[Blinxys]

@HeyYou It's not the number of mods that matters it's what they do.

The number of inactive mods will contribute (as the data is read but not read in correctly).

in the least move those to end of load order if they they are standing in as pointers (i think they often end up in FE or FF address space if/when used).

Having masters out of order in any mod will contribute negatively as well. (open in FO4edit, right-click something something order masters).

Greekrage has it right, multiple edits to same areas will potentially have negative impact.

 

Spent a long time integrating mods in fo4edit (ruling out conflicts).

Merging mods cleans up a lot of conflicts.

Previs and precombine data can be largely cancelled out by making all reference the date you wish to use.

In short its not just adding mods, but working them out.

 

Its an educational game, not a recreational one.