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[Skater6453]

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BlackSunIT wrote: i'll try this mod to test it...  =)

anyway this other mod in its "high density for benchmark" version did an amazing job about draw distance: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3715?tab=posts

can you reply the same value? draw distance was perfect for me... but density was too much and unplayable (although amazing, believable and impressive for screenshots)

thank you for you time and dedication!!!

RickThedope wrote: Yeah that one causes a large drop in overall FPS and that is not what most people want for immersion.

I can for sure start taking a look into some draw distance stuff to go along with the crowd density as well. Will probably be its own mod as an optional file.
 

[Skater6453]

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DerrickC wrote: Hi Skater, thank you for your hard work! Going to try this out!

With update 1.5, I ran into this issue with NPC bodies flickering and T-posing, mostly with interior spaces like Lizzie's Bar or Empathy. As I approach those NPCs again, they return to normal. If I step back a certain distance, they start flickering again. First noticed it when I was speaking with Jackie at Lizzie's Bar for the Corpo opening, during the conversation that takes place right before the montage. Jumping into and out of photo mode also triggered it. It continues to happen with a fresh install as well. If I turn down Crowd Density to Low, it appears to prevent or reduce it. No idea what's going on, but I thought I'd mention it just in case someone else ran into this issue as well or happens to know more about it.

Thank You so much for the kind words and hope it works good for you. Sorry to hear about the graphical glitches but maybe my mod can even help with that since more npc's are preloaded per area then normal.

[neok182]

Ryzen 3700X RTX 2060 here. Jig-Jig street dropped down to 45 FPS for me playing last night. Tonight? 55-57 with this installed. Don't even notice the drop now. 

Haven't noticed any other glitches, just better performance. Thank you! I have crowd density set to medium and this is after a good few hours of playing as well. Thank you for this amazing improvement!

[DocShaftoe]

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DerrickC wrote: Hi Skater, thank you for your hard work! Going to try this out!

With update 1.5, I ran into this issue with NPC bodies flickering and T-posing, mostly with interior spaces like Lizzie's Bar or Empathy. As I approach those NPCs again, they return to normal. If I step back a certain distance, they start flickering again. First noticed it when I was speaking with Jackie at Lizzie's Bar for the Corpo opening, during the conversation that takes place right before the montage. Jumping into and out of photo mode also triggered it. It continues to happen with a fresh install as well. If I turn down Crowd Density to Low, it appears to prevent or reduce it. No idea what's going on, but I thought I'd mention it just in case someone else ran into this issue as well or happens to know more about it.

Skater6453 wrote: Thank You so much for the kind words and hope it works good for you. Sorry to hear about the graphical glitches but maybe my mod can even help with that since more npc's are preloaded per area then normal.

Are you running the high quality plant LOD mod by chance? That one was causing T-pose flickering and improper LOD streaming in crowds.

[sodx]

I'm on a potato so I keep it set on low density, is the game unaffected on low or is it also getting some kind of hit over time? A performance option with a lower cap for all of the settings could be really useful for those of us struggling for every frame we can get. I'm curious how much performance might be affected in denser areas with a lower cap than 'low' density already or if it would be so marginal that it wouldn't really be worth it.

[LovableGoat]

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LovableGoat wrote: Seeing as you're someone who's messing around with crowd density, can you tell me if it's possible to raise crowd density to higher values than the game allows through an ini file? I don't know really anything about real modding, but have no problems with ini files. just don't know if it's possible or which file if it is. My computer is capable of more than the game limits it to, and was just wanting to push it as far as I can. Can't stand how empty the streets are.  
  
This mod looks really good for what it does, though. 

Skater6453 wrote: I am not completely aware of all the ini options but I dont think you can adjust actual programmed in game presets with any of the ini files. Thats what my mod does is change the in game presets and actual spawning values. Through ini I think you can adjust mostly things like how many things are in a certain distance from each other and levels of detail and resolution and some AI behavior and stuff like that. There is an awesome mod that was really useful a while ago called Alternate Crowd Behavior. Search up that mod and it has a bunch of ini files with pretty much all known npc and vehicle and streaming ini options in them so you can check those out and see what you can do with them if you wish. In the future as I mess with this more I could see how much I could absolutely push the values for population and it still be a good playable experience. But for now im happy on how its running without too many compromises.  And thank you for the kind words

Thank you for the information. Very helpful. I'll check that mod out and make sure to check back here in the future for updates. Wish you luck with your mods. You and your service are appreciated. o7

[Gogan2]

Thanks for this. Gonna check it out.

But pleeeeeheeeeease.
Rework, re-edit and format your wall-of-text description.

[jglory71]

Endorsed!

Moreover, I think (and I am no expert) combining" two mods" may have solved the problem that has been plaguing CDPR for a long time...and that is a realistic traffic and crowd density that would simulate a city (like NY City - I used to live there) where millions live.

Here goes...

I tried the, "Improved Traffic_NPCs Draw Distance and density at Cyberpunk 2077 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)" before and it cause some serious drop in my fps so I dropped it. My rig: Ryzen 7 5800X RTX3070. Then comes your mod. It IS a phenomenal work...really, however, I wanted the look and feel of a NY City traffic and crowds. SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, I put both mods together. The former, at the very top  --> "aa_DDVanilaPlusXXXXX" followed by your mod "ab_CrowdsAndTrafficTweaks.archive". Again, I am no expert, but I can't really argue with the result...I got the best of both mods. High density traffic and crowd with NO noticeable drop in fps. I almost dropped both mods because this time, I realized how much I hated NY traffic. LOL.

I played for 30 to 40 minutes straight...no hiccups...zooming in and out of Corpo Plaza, Watson, near the area where V met Jackie during the Ripper Doc quest. Walked, run, and drove everywhere, did some cyberpsycho thing...everything is sweet. ALL THIS while traffic and crowds where high. I mean I had to use a motorcycle just to get through traffic.

Just my observation and phenomenal work sir.

[RickThedope]

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jglory71 wrote: Endorsed!

Moreover, I think (and I am no expert) combining" two mods" may have solved the problem that has been plaguing CDPR for a long time...and that is a realistic traffic and crowd density that would simulate a city (like NY City - I used to live there) where millions live.

Here goes...

I tried the, "Improved Traffic_NPCs Draw Distance and density at Cyberpunk 2077 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)" before and it cause some serious drop in my fps so I dropped it. My rig: Ryzen 7 5800X RTX3070. Then comes your mod. It IS a phenomenal work...really, however, I wanted the look and feel of a NY City traffic and crowds. SO OUT OF CURIOSITY, I put both mods together. The former, at the very top  --> "aa_DDVanilaPlusXXXXX" followed by your mod "ab_CrowdsAndTrafficTweaks.archive". Again, I am no expert, but I can't really argue with the result...I got the best of both mods. High density traffic and crowd with NO noticeable drop in fps. I almost dropped both mods because this time, I realized how much I hated NY traffic. LOL.

I played for 30 to 40 minutes straight...no hiccups...zooming in and out of Corpo Plaza, Watson, near the area where V met Jackie during the Ripper Doc quest. Walked, run, and drove everywhere, did some cyberpsycho thing...everything is sweet. ALL THIS while traffic and crowds where high. I mean I had to use a motorcycle just to get through traffic.

Just my observation and phenomenal work sir.

You can do even better with this on top https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/3844?tab=files

I am using it with this mod and have fantastic results .

Edited by RickThedope, 27 February 2022 - 06:48 AM.

[RickThedope]

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RickThedope wrote: Hmm, clever little mod eh? lets see if this works first and when it does I shall grant you with an endorsement and a kudos as this has been one of the biggest problems with Cyberpunk even on my 12900k monster and an RTX 3090 which shits itself on regular basis especially in Chinatown area and does not recover normal fps at all even in new areas until i am forced to reload the save.
It has thought to be some kind of a memory leak but having 32g of ram I always doubted it, perhaps this was always the problem.

Fingers crossed.

Skater6453 wrote: I hope this does in fact do the trick for you as I have always been having the exact same issue on all kinds of hardware myself. I would think it was a memory leak also cause seems alot like one. But after messing around with these settings it seems like one value in one csv file seems to cause an issue when set to a 3 decimal value instead of 2. Its the Overall on foot crowd density setting default on high is 0.035 but when I set it too 0.03 it stopped ever losing fps again except maybe one or two. And the more I started adjusting other things it started actually going up. So idk if its an engine thing or what but seems to be linked to something with that one setting. Default Medium is also 3 decimal its .025 and low is .015. it might be possible to optimize those as well but havent tried it out yet.

Ok, this mod is amazing, tested it and it works perfect as described, its seems that there are no more persistent FPS drops in most areas, I have not been to CHINATOWN just yet, will report my finding as soo as i am.
You are God sent mate, I just wished that you arrived on the scene with this mod earlier, like much earlier

In the meantime KUDOS for your mind-blowing discovery.

Edited by RickThedope, 27 February 2022 - 07:49 AM.