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[DeafPhoenix]

In response to post #106958518. #106970583, #106971208, #106976378, #106983968, #106985863, #106996143 are all replies on the same post.

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SoN6of6TrediS wrote: Hello everyone, dear friends!
First of all, I would like to say that I am a Russian myself, born in Russia and who has lived on the territory of the Russian Federation all my life.
I have many relatives and friends in Ukraine. I have always considered Ukraine closer to me in spirit, but unfortunately I have not been able to go there to visit my relatives and friends.

I express my complete disagreement with the actions of our government, as well as the majority of sensible Russians. No one wants war except Putin and his f-king government. And I really want everything go back to normal, when all of us could live in peace.

What is happening in Russia now is an economic catastrophe and I don't think our country will be able to recover after so many foreign companies leave cooperation with Russia.
I understand that there are a lot of people in the world now, including our brothers Ukrainians, who believe that the Russian people are to blame for everything.
In part, I cannot disagree with this, because we really have a theoretical opportunity to go to the red square in front of the Kremlin and ALL OF US oppose the goverment. BUT here's an interesting thing that few people talk about from the foreign media.

The Russian Federation now has a LAW according to which the ongoing WAR can be called ONLY as a "Military operation to liberate Ukraine from the Nazi regime." Most of our independent media outlets are CLOSED as "Foreign Agents" or "Extremist Organizations".
At the same time, deputies say literally the following through government FEDERAL channels: "Those of you who are against the war are traitors to our country."

Next comes a text that justifies the inaction of the Russian people. Please take it seriously and don't think that I'm trying to get pity from you.

For spreading the TRUTH about the situation in Ukraine, for mentioning the WAR in Ukraine, for the slogan "NO TO WAR", ordinary citizens who have not previously expressed their opinion on this situation face a fine from 150'000 to 300'000 rubles. (On average, people in the Russian Federation earn from 25'000 to 70'000 rubles). Given the current dollar exchange rate, this is $1,345 - $2,691 (administrative fine), with a salary in Russia = $224-$627.

It follows from this that it is too much for many people to pay a fine for violating the new law.

Also, in accordance with this law, people who have already received this administrative fine will not receive it again. Instead, they will be sentenced to up to 3 years in prison. For large companies and legal entities, this term of imprisonment increases to 10 years. If a media person speaks out with anti-war and pacifist speeches and if this leads to new sanctions for the Russian Federation, then such a person gets up to 15 years in prison.

LIVE UKRAINE!
NO TO WAR!
RUSSIA WITHOUT PUTIN!

IProZacI wrote: You are heard my dude.
A lot of people don't understand that you're victims in this too. There are people over there getting arrested for protesting this war including a women who used to report Kremlin propaganda. It's clear that the people of Russia are against this act of terror but they're powerless to stop it. Yet despite that there are still people protesting. Sadly there's a road full of prejudice ahead for the people of Russia thanks to the actions of one man. Take care of yourself in these tough times. <3 

DarkDominion wrote: F

hunlucansu wrote: you are a great person, thank you <3

sodx wrote: One of my closest, dearest friends is former Russian military (cancer took her out of service and she moved to Canada with her husband) and it gave me a lot of context that the media doesn't. I wish you didn't have to declare your opposition to what is going on but I understand why- a lot of people in the world just don't go out and seek out information for themselves.I hope your family- all Ukraine denizens, actually- stay safe and that this stops soon.

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madfox11 wrote: Well, I can say that everything you say is true, but this is only in Moscow, ordinary citizens were not affected by sanctions, by the way, in no way at all, Muscovites lost a catastrophic opportunity to eat KFC and dress in Addidas, have you been in the provinces for a long time.All disputes and confrontations are only in Moscow, in other cities everything is the same as it was-and it remains.
Yes, and some kind of biased judgment.
Before judging your fellow soldiers and the fatherland, do not forget that they are dying there now, it's not very nice of you to say this until it's all over.

SoN6of6TrediS wrote: Thank you all, friends! <3

madfox11, ordinary citizens WERE affected by sanctions. My parents live in Ekaterinburg and prices are rising there. Car prices are high af, clothing stores are closing (like literally every foreign shop was closed, not just those for rich people). Also there are a lot of things that I didn't mention but you can google it. 

[xrayy]

In response to post #106958518. #106970583, #106971208, #106976378, #106983968, #106985863, #106996143, #106998513 are all replies on the same post.

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SoN6of6TrediS wrote: Hello everyone, dear friends!
First of all, I would like to say that I am a Russian myself, born in Russia and who has lived on the territory of the Russian Federation all my life.
I have many relatives and friends in Ukraine. I have always considered Ukraine closer to me in spirit, but unfortunately I have not been able to go there to visit my relatives and friends.

I express my complete disagreement with the actions of our government, as well as the majority of sensible Russians. No one wants war except Putin and his f-king government. And I really want everything go back to normal, when all of us could live in peace.

What is happening in Russia now is an economic catastrophe and I don't think our country will be able to recover after so many foreign companies leave cooperation with Russia.
I understand that there are a lot of people in the world now, including our brothers Ukrainians, who believe that the Russian people are to blame for everything.
In part, I cannot disagree with this, because we really have a theoretical opportunity to go to the red square in front of the Kremlin and ALL OF US oppose the goverment. BUT here's an interesting thing that few people talk about from the foreign media.

The Russian Federation now has a LAW according to which the ongoing WAR can be called ONLY as a "Military operation to liberate Ukraine from the Nazi regime." Most of our independent media outlets are CLOSED as "Foreign Agents" or "Extremist Organizations".
At the same time, deputies say literally the following through government FEDERAL channels: "Those of you who are against the war are traitors to our country."

Next comes a text that justifies the inaction of the Russian people. Please take it seriously and don't think that I'm trying to get pity from you.

For spreading the TRUTH about the situation in Ukraine, for mentioning the WAR in Ukraine, for the slogan "NO TO WAR", ordinary citizens who have not previously expressed their opinion on this situation face a fine from 150'000 to 300'000 rubles. (On average, people in the Russian Federation earn from 25'000 to 70'000 rubles). Given the current dollar exchange rate, this is $1,345 - $2,691 (administrative fine), with a salary in Russia = $224-$627.

It follows from this that it is too much for many people to pay a fine for violating the new law.

Also, in accordance with this law, people who have already received this administrative fine will not receive it again. Instead, they will be sentenced to up to 3 years in prison. For large companies and legal entities, this term of imprisonment increases to 10 years. If a media person speaks out with anti-war and pacifist speeches and if this leads to new sanctions for the Russian Federation, then such a person gets up to 15 years in prison.

LIVE UKRAINE!
NO TO WAR!
RUSSIA WITHOUT PUTIN!

IProZacI wrote: You are heard my dude.
A lot of people don't understand that you're victims in this too. There are people over there getting arrested for protesting this war including a women who used to report Kremlin propaganda. It's clear that the people of Russia are against this act of terror but they're powerless to stop it. Yet despite that there are still people protesting. Sadly there's a road full of prejudice ahead for the people of Russia thanks to the actions of one man. Take care of yourself in these tough times. <3 

DarkDominion wrote: F

hunlucansu wrote: you are a great person, thank you <3

sodx wrote: One of my closest, dearest friends is former Russian military (cancer took her out of service and she moved to Canada with her husband) and it gave me a lot of context that the media doesn't. I wish you didn't have to declare your opposition to what is going on but I understand why- a lot of people in the world just don't go out and seek out information for themselves.I hope your family- all Ukraine denizens, actually- stay safe and that this stops soon.

солидарность и поддержка

madfox11 wrote: Well, I can say that everything you say is true, but this is only in Moscow, ordinary citizens were not affected by sanctions, by the way, in no way at all, Muscovites lost a catastrophic opportunity to eat KFC and dress in Addidas, have you been in the provinces for a long time.All disputes and confrontations are only in Moscow, in other cities everything is the same as it was-and it remains.
Yes, and some kind of biased judgment.
Before judging your fellow soldiers and the fatherland, do not forget that they are dying there now, it's not very nice of you to say this until it's all over.

SoN6of6TrediS wrote: Thank you all, friends! <3

DeafPhoenix wrote: madfox11, ordinary citizens WERE affected by sanctions. My parents live in Ekaterinburg and prices are rising there. Car prices are high af, clothing stores are closing (like literally every foreign shop was closed, not just those for rich people). Also there are a lot of things that I didn't mention but you can google it. 

russia without people like putin and belarus without lukaschenko would be a peacebringer for the whole globe. let us pray for that wonder together with  all peaceful russians!

Edited by xrayy, 17 March 2022 - 04:40 PM.

[xrayy]

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newBornPB666 wrote: Every day I deliver food and other necessary things to my brothers from Ukraine.
I'm Polish; the Germans murdered half of my family, then the Russians came and murdered almost the rest.
My (Only) mother survived WW2, and my brother, sister and grandfather survived from my father's side.
I know what war is (This True - not from TV), so I help, because it's my duty.Poles used to save Jews, now they help Ukrainian people with the same Love for Freedom, Independence and Identity.But the West doesn't understand anything!
1000 years of Poland's existence - that is obligatory!
We will defend ourselves until the Last Drop of Blood - this is the motto.

Some western countries surrendered immediately others after a few days, so,!
How are they supposed to like Ukraine's attitude?


                And so I go from store to store and collect gifts for neighbors (from Ukraine)
 and deliver them wherever they are missing!

JamesClark1111 wrote: I heavily appreciate the amount of work you do. As much as I am thankful for or nexus for the Red Cross donations, giving food and gifts directly to refugees and people in need is more impactful and sufficient for them. 

newBornPB666 wrote: Responsibility !
it doesn't take a moment!I love freedom and even behind bars, I will be free.
Unfortunately, there are those who consider freedom to be evil!
Why?
Is there freedom of the rich or is there freedom of the poor?
Which freedom is more important!
Freedom is for everyone, YES !!!
provided that another Freedom is not disturbing!
The so-called liquid border, only depends on the money ??

it makes me feel so sorry and humble as a german even after 80 years what happend in ww2. and it hurts even more and it is an irony of history that putin calls the ukrainian president with jewish roots part of a nazi regime! putin itself is the one who acts like a nazi and no one else and it seems to me he mutated to an irrational monster like hitler was.  

Edited by xrayy, 17 March 2022 - 07:22 PM.

[0Waylander0]

I've been looking through comments below about Russian situation in this sh*t and I want to say that its not entirely true.

First of all, as Russian myself I don't support actions of our army and government. But unfortunately, there's about 60 to 80 percent of people who support this bullcrap entirely. And that's not even a problem. The problem is that even with all restrictions and other things we won't die here. I don;t mean that literally but follow me for a sec. We won't have ANY quality of life products, we will have the price increasement, we won't have ANY tech novelties for a while. But you see, we've got China. Who wants our resources for themselves, who want our territory as their own. Not because Chinese are bad, but because its natural and beneficial for their country.  And they WILL milk our country dry just because its business. And Russians would live in this hell. They'll be waiting in lines for product checks like in USSR, they'll be keeping dollars and euros under their pillows and they'll be looking at the iron curtain and shouting: "WE DEFEATED DIRTY NATO". And they'll be quite happy to accept all the penalties for the time being. That is really scary for me.

As other people say, I didn't write all of this for you to take pity, but for you to understand how f*cked up things are gonna be for Russia and Belarus if this continues as it is now. Though, I personally think  "Our great leader" f*cked up big cause of his failure to seize control at the first week of conflict and i feel very sad knowing that my people are selected as the worst of the bunch. But, i guess, they brought it upon themselves and are intending to take people, who can THINK FOR THEMSELVES down with them. Hopefully this sh*t will be over soon one way or another.

P.S. Also the reason for our invasion is full of crap too. There are some
Nazis in Ukraine, there are people, who would kill a Russian just because of who he is. But Putin doesn't give a damn about it. He wants a quick victorious military campaign to cover up for some inter political bulls*** my people are about to experience in near future. Thats all from me, thanks for reading through

Edited by 0Waylander0, 17 March 2022 - 09:55 PM.